Let's end this pro boxer vs coli discussion. Anybody decent in grappling could easily beat a pro lightweight boxer.

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Stand up and fight me like a man. Stop trying to grab my legs and shyt. That’s a gay ass art form. They had to add the other J cause they know that shyt was gay. Ol, I wanna take you to the ground face ass nikkas.


I don't blame you, who wants to get ragdolled?:picard::hubie:

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Bbj nikkas most annoying cats in martial arts bar none. Litterally think people will magically fall into their gaurda with no resistance, will dodge every strike and also and think they can take on anyone anywhere.

The first time these career bbj nikkas chin get checked they turn to white belts :mjlol:
 

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Grappling is not the best strategy for ALL scenarios. Your sight and movement are limited and you can not see all threats.

BJJ, grappling is very efficient YES, if it is truly one on one and you are able to get a take down, yes you can make quick work of anybody who is not experienced.

BUT in reality a boxer, muay thai, kick boxer, high tae kwon do skills can light you up very fast before you can be successful at getting them on the ground

In the UNPREDICTABLE street scenario any of the aforementioned are safer bet than wrestling, grappling, bjj
 

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most mma fighters incorporate muay thai, not pure boxing :comeon:

And the best ones who became champions relied on boxing

Lawler
GsP
Woodley
Belfort
Silva
Garbrandt
Liddell
Usman


Lets stop. Also do you train a martial art?

Bbj nikkas most annoying cats in martial arts bar none. Litterally think people will magically fall into their gaurda with no resistance, will dodge every strike and also and think they can take on anyone anywhere.

The first time these career bbj nikkas chin get checked they turn to white belts :mjlol:

:heh:Its HIGH SCHOOL wrestlers who be giving brown-purple belts the businesses
 

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And the best ones who became champions relied on boxing

Lawler
GsP
Woodley
Belfort
Silva
Garbrandt
Liddell
Usman


Lets stop. Also do you train a martial art?



:heh:Its HIGH SCHOOL wrestlers who be giving brown-purple belts the businesses
silva uses muay thai same with belfort and gsp :laff: :laff: woodley is a wrestler same with usman:laff::laff:


yes, i have been doing dutch style kick boxing for years.
 

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And the best ones who became champions relied on boxing

Lawler
GsP
Woodley
Belfort
Silva
Garbrandt
Liddell
Usman


Lets stop. Also do you train a martial art?



:heh:Its HIGH SCHOOL wrestlers who be giving brown-purple belts the businesses


I box and dabble in kickboxing but my leg game is admittedly weak.

People really approach this from the most cursory position too. A dude who just knows bbj Id take the boxer easily because they are sub artists. Their explosion comes from when they get you and its hard to catch a boxer who dont want to be caught.

Now if the bbj dude cross trained in wrestling Id take that person because they can explosively land takedowns and the work the ground. But if we are able to splice disciplines a boxer with some wrestling defense is fukking all them up with ease
 

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silva uses muay thai same with belfort and gsp :laff: :laff: woodley is a wrestler same with usman:laff::laff:


yes, i have been doing dutch style kick boxing for years.

Silva and Belfort both have Pro Boxing records way back in the day

Woodley and especially Usman while both being wrestlers relied on striking to gain dominance





:heh: Also if you’re a kickboxer how tf tell another breh they don’t know what they talking about when you yourself don’t have experience in it
 

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:what: A so called black site that shyts on boxing.

Anything connected or popular with black folks there’s always some soft shoes that wannabe special snowflakes and act like their above the fray and gravitate towards anything not familiar with the culture and then sing its praises from martial arts to food breh its a sign of low self esteem
 

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Silva and Belfort both have Pro Boxing

Woodley and especially Usman while both being wrestlers relied on striking to gain dominance

:heh: Also if you’re a kickboxer how tf tell another breh they don’t know what they talking about when you yourself don’t have experience in it
that doesnt change what i said at all. during their times, both relied heavily on muay thai, especially silva.

that doesnt mean, that i dont cross train. at my gym we have a multitude of different styles :comeon:
 

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Most fights end up on the ground at some point anyway.

There’s a reason takedowns were incorporated in military combat programs for example imo
 

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Boxing is one of my favorite sports but honestly it has to be one of the worst martial arts
Down there with Karate, 52 blocks and Tai Chi :mjlol:
I wish UFC wasn't stingy with the bread so they actually could entice a pro boxer to go over there and get they ass whupped in a 1 off match
 

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Silva and Belfort both have Pro Boxing records way back in the day

Woodley and especially Usman while both being wrestlers relied on striking to gain dominance





:heh: Also if you’re a kickboxer how tf tell another breh they don’t know what they talking about when you yourself don’t have experience in it




MMA striking is not the same as boxing...

MMA fighters literally train their boxing differently due to the ruleset.


Boxing is a very specialized sport, it's very particular in its defences, movement, stance, even the way they throw their punches. Alot of aspects of boxing dont cross over to MMA due to the more open ruleset and variety of attacks. Still boxing is a very good toolset to have in freestyle fighting contests of course but just like every other part of MMA there's give and take.
 
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