Let's Be Reality; This Loss is On The Pats O Line and Gostkowski

[No1]

fukk u, the steelers and Brady. Cause others don't get passed when they lose playoff games regardless of the situation. If u always get the credit, u should be ready to take the failure also

You a Peyton supporter but you my nikka so I'll let this slide . But this logic is exactly why Peyton gets all the blame. I hope you know

 

[No1]

And, what had the Patriots offense done up until that point? Absolutely jack shyt. In either scenario they needed a TD, one sith a two point conversion. It was FAR from a guarantee they would get back into the redzone. At the time I wanted a FG attempt, but I'm fine with going for it, just not the play call itself.

Son, we had 3 timeouts + the 2 minute warning and the Broncos O had not done shyt. Going for a TD for the win >>> Going for a TD and 2 point conversion for the tie.

 

[Danie84]

B-b-but BeliTRICK's the Guru of Football and Brady's the GOAT

 

[JameisNewton]

Gostkowski misses one extra point and he's to blame.

But Vinatieri hits 3 GW FG and it was all Brady.

Right.

That was the first time Gostkowski had ever missed an XP in his life. You're comparing apples to oranges.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Ghost def not to blame.


A critical error from a usually dependable guy, but it happened early so there's no excuse. Had plenty of time to recover. There were more critical errors than that, ones that cost us more than one point. If I had to go through the tape I'd point them out.

I blame coaching and the line.

 

[RubioTheCruel]

And, what had the Patriots offense done up until that point? Absolutely jack shyt. In either scenario they needed a TD, one sith a two point conversion. It was FAR from a guarantee they would get back into the redzone. At the time I wanted a FG attempt, but I'm fine with going for it, just not the play call itself.

If they kicked a FG earlier, the last drive is for the win, not to tie. Again, points aren't bad, why would you pass them up? You were going to get the ball back again. At the end of the day, the Pats were in the RZ twice there and came away with 0 points. I truly believe if the Pats kick the FG there they win last night

 

[JarrodG]

Blame the loss on Beli, OLine and Tom. Especially Beli, trying to out genius himself

 

[Rekkapryde]

@Rekkapryde I'm convinced you guys don't watch the Patriots play or didn't until they got Moss. Why do people keep saying shyt that is factually wrong? This is why you were all surprised when we beat the Rams like they didn't barely beat us by one score earlier in that season.

The comeback in '06? Yeah that wasn't the defense.

But yall's first 3 was the defense more than Brady..........and #demcameras

 

[JameisNewton]

Ghost def not to blame.


A critical error from a usually dependable guy, but it happened early so there's no excuse. Had plenty of time to recover. There were more critical errors than that, ones that cost us more than one point. If I had to go through the tape I'd point them out.

I blame coaching and the line.

that just adds to the apple and oranges ness of the comparison by that Tical guy. He's comparing a first quarter gaffe to a kick made in the final seconds of a game.

 

[BucciMane]

Son, we had 3 timeouts + the 2 minute warning and the Broncos O had not done shyt. Going for a TD for the win >>> Going for a TD and 2 point conversion for the tie.

Yes, going for a TD for the win is better than going for a TD and a two point conversion for the tie, but it wasn't that simple. The going for the TD for the win would have required the Patriots to drive the entire length of the field when they were already in position in the redzone on that fourth down try.

You can't play the, if you got three points here and three points here game, that everything else would have played out tje same.

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Yes, going for a TD for the win is better than going for a TD and a two point conversion for the tie, but it wasn't that simple. The going for the TD for the win would have required the Patriots to drive the entire length of the field when they were already in position in the redzone on that fourth down try.

You can't play the, if you got three points here and three points here game, that everything else would have played out tje same.

Going for 3 put us in a better position to win the game. Especially considering we couldn't pick up 1 yard in the same position on the previous drive.

 

[THE MACHINE]

Why do people think like this? It's honestly mind-boggling. There is a hell of a lot of assuming that needs to go on for that to happen.

Let's say the Patriots kick a FG on those two possessions, does that mean the Broncos would have tried to burn the clock on their final drive? No, they would probably try and pass three times and end the game.

They haven't been passing late their last 3 games with Peyton. Passing also stops the clock when it's incomplete. DT was a non factor and Sanders had like 5 catches. All they needed was the first FG. Beli assumed that the 2 pt conversion was a given. There were like 6 minutes left on the first drive. Why would the pats not get the ball back?

 

[BucciMane]

Going for 3 put us in a better position to win the game. Especially considering we couldn't pick up 1 yard in the same position on the previous drive.

They haven't been passing late their last 3 games with Peyton. Passing also stops the clock when it's incomplete. DT was a non factor and Sanders had like 5 catches. All they needed was the first FG. Beli assumed that the 2 pt conversion was a given. There were like 6 minutes left on the first drive. Why would the pats not get the ball back?

Again, I wanted him to take the FG, but the Patriots were struggling on offense all day. There is no guarantee they make it deep into Broncos territory again. The actual play call was much worse than the decision to go for it.

 

[JameisNewton]

Yes, going for a TD for the win is better than going for a TD and a two point conversion for the tie, but it wasn't that simple. The going for the TD for the win would have required the Patriots to drive the entire length of the field when they were already in position in the redzone on that fourth down try.

You can't play the, if you got three points here and three points here game, that everything else would have played out tje same.

related note: what if this is all a set up for a repeat of the last 2 years?

2013: Russell's team beats Peyton's team
2014: Brady's team beats Russell's team
2015: Cam's team beats Peyton's team
2016: Brady's team beats Cam's team


the fukkery if this entire scenario is carried out

 

[R.E.N. Spells Ren]

Again, I wanted him to take the FG, but the Patriots were struggling on offense all day. There is no guarantee they make it deep into Broncos territory again. The actual play call was much worse than the decision to go for it.

Of course there's no guarantees either way.

It's about doing what's best for your team. From a probability standpoint based on how we were playing, it made far more sense to kick the FG. I would've kicked it the first time, because there was no reason to treat that like the last drive of the game. But I can respect the argument for going for it. We were "rolling" offensively like no other point prior to that. It was only one yard. If we didn't get it, there's still plenty of time to take another crack at scoring. Put it in your best player's hands. Etc.

But the second time? It was 6 yards! We still had enough time with 3 TO's and the two minute warning to make a TD drive. Beli was coaching like he was scared of the Denver O (like we wouldn't have been able to get them 3& out), and I just don't know why.