Let's Be Reality; This Loss is On The Pats O Line and Gostkowski

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You think a one dimensional offense is an excuse for a loss? :upsetfavre: Do you know how football work or are you just stanning?

Show me a team that won it all without some type of balance on offense.

Again, where was this type of rational nuanced thinking when it came to Peyton? Nobody wanna talk about the kicker missing a fg in the playoffs, nobody wanna talk about San Diego running for damn near 300 yards against his team.....everybody wanted to just lament about PEYTON playoff record. Soon as Brady gets manhandled, out comes the nuanced debate about O-lines, etc. Just don't be a hypocrite.
 

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Again, where was this type of rational nuanced thinking when it came to Peyton? Nobody wanna talk about the kicker missing a fg in the playoffs, nobody wanna talk about San Diego running for damn near 300 yards against his team.....everybody wanted to just lament about PEYTON playoff record. Soon as Brady gets manhandled, out comes the nuanced debate about O-lines, etc. Just don't be a hypocrite.

It all makes sense now. You want me to blame Brady for not getting a running game going so that Denver would put the extra guy back on the line :upsetfavre:
 

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I remember when Peyton lost to the Jets back in 2010. He led the comeback and there was about a minute left and we were in good position to win. Then our special teams gives up a 50 yard return and they needed 20 yards for a field goal and won the game. Guess who got blamed for all that? :mjpls:
 

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I remember when Peyton lost to the Jets back in 2010. He led the comeback and there was about a minute left and we were in good position to win. Then our special teams gives up a 50 yard return and they needed 20 yards for a field goal and won the game. Guess who got blamed for all that? :mjpls:

Exactly.....meanwhile Brady is still one of 3 QBs to throw 3 ints in a playoff game and the team still won (Bradshaw and Montana).....and guess who get all the praise for this?
 

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Out of those two I blame the O-line more

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Ghost is a legend shyt happens :manny:
 

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Brady made a few great throws to Gronk too though. That one out right with 3 defenders. That 4th and 10 over the top of the defense.

Not saying Gronk doesn't make Brady better. But to say it's ALL Gronk is wrong.

It's a team sport. It's not all Gronk and it's not all Brady.

But when certain teams lose, the QB gets all the blame, but somehow Brady escapes the blame :francis:
 

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But when certain teams lose, the QB gets all the blame, but somehow Brady escapes the blame :francis:
Where is he escaping blame? Pats fans are largely getting at him just like they did in 06 versus Denver and in 2011 versus the Jets. They just also know that if you get hit more times in a single game than any QB has all season, you're not going to win. Besides all that, the media is not going to create a Tom Brady choker narrative when his entire career is the exact opposite. Even until the end the Pats had a chance because of crucial 4th down throws by Brady. No other QBs in the league besides Rodgers and maybe Cam give you a chance to win in that scenario today. Do you want me to create a Kobe is a choker narrative because he missed a gamewinner versus the Mavs in 2011? It does not work that way. Reputations are built over time.
 

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Again, where was this type of rational nuanced thinking when it came to Peyton? Nobody wanna talk about the kicker missing a fg in the playoffs, nobody wanna talk about San Diego running for damn near 300 yards against his team.....everybody wanted to just lament about PEYTON playoff record. Soon as Brady gets manhandled, out comes the nuanced debate about O-lines, etc. Just don't be a hypocrite.
I remember when Peyton lost to the Jets back in 2010. He led the comeback and there was about a minute left and we were in good position to win. Then our special teams gives up a 50 yard return and they needed 20 yards for a field goal and won the game. Guess who got blamed for all that? :mjpls:
You bitter Peyton stans need to stop acting like bytches. This is all this is about. You guys are salty and are trying to flip the script. Peyton got shytted on because his overpowered offenses never did shyt either. Peyton was not losing in shoot outs, he was losing games like these with superior offensive talent that's the difference.

Colts had a great O-line, Edge, Reggie, Marvin, Stokley in the slot, Clark/Pollard, etc. and were losing. Tom Brady literally passed his way to a SB win against the Seahawks last year. He is the only QB in NFL history with a winning playoff record when throwing the ball 50 times a game. As a matter of fact, only Eli Manning has a win doing that besides Brady so you're all going to have to take a seat. Stop this false Brady/Peyton narrative. History is not on your side and Peyton NEVER EVER IN HIS LIFE GOT HIT THE WAY BRADY WAS HIS TODAY AND THE WAY HE WAS HIT VERSUS THE GIANTS. Peyton was throwing INTs because he was confused not because he got hit TWENTY TIMES. fukk out of here. Stop trying to cape for your hero. @Ronnie Lott you're better than to cosign this fukkery.
 

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People act like the Broncos would have run the same exact plays and everything would have played out exactly the same up until the final play if the Patriots kicked a FG on one of their drives. It doesn't work like that.

I can understand both views about whether or not to kick the FG or go for it with about 6:00 left in the fourth quarter. The Patriots had not really been down that part of the field much of the game and they would have needed a TD one way or another. I don't mind the "take the points" crowd, but the ones who say, "Well, if you kicked a FG here, and then here, and then on the final drive, the Patriots would have won" are beyond retarded.

The Broncos did jack shyt on offense in the second half(really since the second quarter). They had around 6 minutes and 4 timeouts, that is an eternity in football. Kicking the FG there and going to 5, they were going to get at least another possession at the minimum if not two because the Denver O was totally incompetent(they actually got 3 possessions but that's not really relevant to the conversation).

Belichick totally screwed that up trying to chase points earlier than he needed to.
 
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