Lets be honest here Zimmerman is gonna get off

[NubianVitruvian]

^He was black and got shot, he must have started it.
Ass backwards bullshyt

 

[the cac mamba]

People lose fights everyday.

, b

 

[JBoy]

 

[Nintendough]

Not to mention that Trayvon had no motive to start a fight or confront Zimmerman but Zimmerman made his motive clear on the 911 call. Trayvon had he killed Zimmerman would have been the one with a self defense case but something tells me it would be capital murder with no credibility given to his story. The fact that people are giving such a stupid ass benefit of the doubt approach to Zimmerman is disturbing. If you chase someone down at night and they start running from you, of course if you catch up with them they will fight you but cats are still saying we don't know who started the fight? GZ did when he engaged and stalked a damn teenager who was frightened.

Thank you....never have I heard so many excuses being presented to protect a grown man who murdered a child. You have people sitting up saying that stalking and disobeying 911 orders not to follow somebody isn't illegal now?



Any other time its always guilty until proven innocent with the public but now everybody wants to be play defendants advocate. I think society needs to make its mind up

 

[Steve Murray]

The prosecution quite simply hasn't proved its case against Zimmerman. They did a surprisingly terrible job.

Zimmerman and his lawyers are gonna leave that courtroom............................

...........................with this blasting:

 

[Danie84]

It just feels like Trayvon prosecution team is willingly throwing this case in the bushes

Let's see how bout it the people are, when that verdict comes in

 

[Beegio]

Zimmerman hangs up from the NEN dispatcher at 7:13:41.
7:16:11 is when the first 911 call comes in, with the shot being recorded at 7:16:55. So from 7:13:41- 7:16:00 when Janteal's (sp) phone call to Trayvon drops is a time frame of 2 minutes 19 seconds.

He states that he was headed back to his vehicle at this time, which is approximately 250 feet from the "T", 300 feet from Retreat View Circle. Before he hung up, he told the dispatcher to have the police call him when they got there, instead of meeting him at his truck, so the excuse that he was looking for an address is null and void. Why is he looking for an address when he told the dispatcher to have the police call him to find out where he is? He wasn't going back to his truck because he told the dispatcher not to have the police meet him there.

 

[Bolzmark]

Gotta follow the case fam. GZ abandoned that ridiculous bushes story, and changed it to Tray running up on him from 10-15 ft. away. Basically hes making sht up as he goes along. GZ remarks on the tape with dispatchers, that Tray is running away from him in the moments before the confrontation. Hes not being charged with following Tray, hes being charged with murder, and his actions that lead up to the confrontation: stalking an unarmed person for no reason, while aggressively cursing the object of your pursuit, establishes that GZ had bad intentions that night. I cant imagine how he isnt guilty of at least manslaughter.

You gotta follow the case fam. He doesn say he's necessarily running from HIM, just that he has a brisk walk, going away from him. You saying that Trayvon is running from him implies a lot that is not in evidence. For the most part, his story has remained the same, even though he hasn't testified we don't have that. Coming out the bushes, coming from 10 ft away, dnt know they are mutually exclusive. The key part that you are missing though is the ONLY story that describes how the physical altercation started is his words that Trayvon said "Why are you following me?" andthen punched him in the face. You could say his intentions were "bad" but at the same time to what extent? Surely the jury is not going to think he followed him with the INTENT to do him actual bodily harm, being that he actually called the dispatcher first. Usually when somebody is gonna run up on somebody and blast them, they keep it on the low, would you not agree.

My whole point is, for the key parts of that night we only have Zimmermans version. He cant deny he followed Trayvon, but he sure as hell can, and has, say that Trayvon turned it into a physical confrontation. But like I said, the one area that his story is weak is whether he REASONABLY believed his life was in danger. Is gonna be manslaughter or a full an acquittal.

 

[Nigerianwonder]

You gotta follow the case fam. He doesn say he's necessarily running from HIM, just that he has a brisk walk, going away from him. You saying that Trayvon is running from him implies a lot that is not in evidence. For the most part, his story has remained the same, even though he hasn't testified we don't have that. Coming out the bushes, coming from 10 ft away, dnt know they are mutually exclusive. The key part that you are missing though is the ONLY story that describes how the physical altercation started is his words that Trayvon said "Why are you following me?" andthen punched him in the face. You could say his intentions were "bad" but at the same time to what extent? Surely the jury is not going to think he followed him with the INTENT to do him actual bodily harm, being that he actually called the dispatcher first. Usually when somebody is gonna run up on somebody and blast them, they keep it on the low, would you not agree.

My whole point is, for the key parts of that night we only have Zimmermans version. He cant deny he followed Trayvon, but he sure as hell can, and has, say that Trayvon turned it into a physical confrontation. But like I said, the one area that his story is weak is whether he REASONABLY believed his life was in danger. Is gonna be manslaughter or a full an acquittal.

The only thing relevant is why an armed man decided to shoot and kill an unarmed law abiding teenager. Zimmerman is claiming self defense not using the stand your ground law. Self defense has a proportionality clause that says you can only respond with equal force to defend yourself. Since Trayvon was unarmed the burden is on Zimmerman to prove his was in imminent danger of death with no route of escape and justify the homicide. The prosecution should have simply kept a laser like focus on this point. There has been no factual evidence to corroborate that Zimmerman's claim that he was in danger of imminent death. His story is pure conjecture. Facts are facts. A couple cuts on the back of your head doesn't justify homicide. starting or Losing a fist fight doesn't justify homicide. Being the aggressor does not justify homicide. its really that simple.

 

[filial_piety]

You gotta follow the case fam. He doesn say he's necessarily running from HIM, just that he has a brisk walk, going away from him. You saying that Trayvon is running from him implies a lot that is not in evidence. For the most part, his story has remained the same, even though he hasn't testified we don't have that. Coming out the bushes, coming from 10 ft away, dnt know they are mutually exclusive. The key part that you are missing though is the ONLY story that describes how the physical altercation started is his words that Trayvon said "Why are you following me?" andthen punched him in the face. You could say his intentions were "bad" but at the same time to what extent? Surely the jury is not going to think he followed him with the INTENT to do him actual bodily harm, being that he actually called the dispatcher first. Usually when somebody is gonna run up on somebody and blast them, they keep it on the low, would you not agree.

My whole point is, for the key parts of that night we only have Zimmermans version. He cant deny he followed Trayvon, but he sure as hell can, and has, say that Trayvon turned it into a physical confrontation. But like I said, the one area that his story is weak is whether he REASONABLY believed his life was in danger. Is gonna be manslaughter or a full an acquittal.

Lol you're wasting your time. Some people in here are mistaking the facts for being in support of Zimmerman, which aren't necessarily mutually inclusive.

If you remove race from the argument, then it become an easier and more rational discussion to have.

The reality is, for the most part, Zimmerman's story appears to add up based on the evidence that we have, however in the grand scheme of things, you have a 17 year old kid dead who was pretty much minding his own business. The jury may empathize with that sentiment and reduce it to manslaughter--It's a tough one to call. From what I heard, even if he does get manslaughter, he'll do about 30 due to the use of the firearm and the kid being under 18. So right now, team Zimmerman is going for the hail mary.

Overall, my only doubt with Zimmerman's story is the idea that Treyvon took the first swing. My understanding is that when he [Treyvon] was on his cell phone with his friend; in the background, supposedly you can hear Zimmerman saying "hey what are you doing here?"...and then the call drops. I don't know,but reason leads me to believe that the call was suddenly dropped because of an initial blow drawn by the person doing the persuing. But hey, that's just a guess.

 

[filial_piety]

It just feels like Trayvon prosecution team is willingly throwing this case in the bushes

Let's see how bout it the people are, when that verdict comes in

Either that or they really don't have a case and Zimmerman was right afterall

Let's not forget that this case was filed due to the onslaught of political pressure brought on it.

Even when the the DOJ jumped in it, they quickly had to back down and remove themselves from it simply based on the evidence that was presented at the time,

 

[A.J.Soprano]

White people didn't riot when OJ got off...... I expect black Americans to be equally as civilized

 

[NubianVitruvian]

These fukks on the View saying it's about who started the fight. fukk out of here. When two fighters step into the ring, the ref, a third party says it's on. When Zimmerman got out of the car, after a 3rd party said NO. Zimmerman started the fight. He instigated the confrontation. Stop this fukking nonsense.

 

[NubianVitruvian]

If Zimmerman was black.....

 

[winb83]

I made this thread when the choices were second degree murder or nothing with the inclusion of manslaughter it's likely Zimmerman won't get off at all.