Let's admit the cold hard truth about kobe - media ruined Kobe's legit top 3-4 status

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shaq averaged 40 points and 17 rebounds that whole finals

kobe averaged 16 and 4 rebounds

:laff: stop tryna rewrite history fukk is wrong with yall

they was doubling and tripling shaq that whole game which allowed kobe to get 25

2000 NBA Finals - Indiana Pacers vs. Los Angeles Lakers | Basketball-Reference.com

Case in point right here

Lakers would've lost that series. Pacers would've won game 4 if Kobe didn't take over and since the Pacers did win game 5, it would've been 3-2. Now what?

Kobe displayed more mental toughness in that series than LeBron did in his first TWO finals.

If you actually lived through the era you would know the East was garbage and had no bigs whereas the West had Garnett, Duncan, Robinson, Wallace, Divac & Webber. Shaq wasn't averaging no 40 points against Sacramento, San Antonio, Portland or Minnesota. That was when Shaq struggled and when Kobe went off. In the Finals they let Shaq feed off the nobodies the East put on him. Without Kobe, they never get there though because they had to make it past SAS, SAC & POR. Take Kobe off them squads and Sacramento has a couple rings in the early 2000s. We'd be in here praising Chris Webber and Mike Bibby instead. But keep being a young fakkit spreading lies and falsehoods.
 
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Kobe stans are disturbed. Kobe is possibly the most media hyped player of all time in any sport and these fakkits are still complaining that the media didn't love him enough :mindblown:


U DONT BELIEVE THIS .. IF HE WAS THE MOST MEDIA HYPED PLAYER OF ALL TIME HE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN PICKED 12 WHILE LEBRON WAS PICKED 3 ON THE ESPN ALL TIME LIST. NOT ONLY DOES IT PROVE OP POINT, ITS FLAT OUT RETARDED. THEY GO OUT THEIR WAY TO SHIIT ON HIM. ACT LIKE U KNOW.
 

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simple and plain...kob just don't have the stats for top 5. when i was on board and hoping he would catch mike, i knew them shooting percentages were gonna be tough to overcome, but i was gonna play stupid and just keep it on rings and say he played tougher comp. but, kob shots 44% for his career. :francis:

and then they started with them advanced metrics. :patrice:

SO WILT IS THE GOAT IF WE GO BY STATS

NOPE

STATS ARE CIRCUMSTANTIAL .. KOBE WOULDA SHOT 60% PLAYIN IN JORDANS SHOES
 

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Kobe not even the 2nd best laker of all time, let alone top 5 players of all time:mjlol:
Sheeeiiiit, ion even consider him 3rd, Shaq was the integral part of the 3-peat, Kobe played his role tho

KAREEM, MAGIC, WEST, SHAQ, HAVE ALL REGARDED KOBE AS THE GREATEST LAKER OF ALL TIME

FALL BACK
 

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Compare that to Kobes alleged victim, have you ever heard a cac talk about her having multiple dudes gack in her underwear? I still hear cacs like Henry Abbott talk about their hate for Kobe and it stems from their ingrained racism.

Nobody is talking about Henry Abbott :what: The loudest motherfukker in the media loves Kobe and wants to drink his bath water :scusthov: Have you people forgotten the narrative of 2008-2011? They all called Kobe a winner and gave him full credit for the 2008 Olympics and 2009-2010 championships. They said LeBron was just a stat filler who couldn't win championships or make last second shots. They didn't crown LeBron until Kobe got old. You people are really disturbed.
 

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I think the media helped Kobe more than anything, personally keeping it purely basket I don't think Kobe was better than Kevin Garnett, but you got an army of Kobe nuthuggers that'll tell you that's a disrespectful ass comment because the media never told them how good KG was :yeshrug:

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that warrants a finals mvp? over the nikka who the other team is doubling and still dropping 40 ?

I NEVER SAID THAT .. SHAQ WAS BETTER IN 2000, KOBE WAS JUST BECOMING KOBE THAT YEAR. KOBE WAS THE BETTER PLAYER BY 01 THO.
 

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Nobody is talking about Henry Abbott :what: The loudest motherfukker in the media loves Kobe and wants to drink his bath water :scusthov: Have you people forgotten the narrative of 2008-2011? They all called Kobe a winner and gave him full credit for the 2008 Olympics and 2009-2010 championships. They said LeBron was just a stat filler who couldn't win championships or make last second shots. They didn't crown LeBron until Kobe got old. You people are really disturbed.

SCOOP JACKSON, WHO WORKS AT ESPN, ADMITTED THAT THE MAJORITY STAFF WRITERS AND JOURNALISTS AT ESPN ARE LEBRON GUYS WHO DESPISE KOBE..U CANT DANCE AROUND THE FACT THAT THEY RANKED KOBE 12 ALL TIME N LEBRON 3. PROOF IS IN THE PUDDING.
 

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Like I said, the media just never spent years telling you how good KG was so in your head that's what you conditioned yourself to think. But on some real shyt, you not tryna have an actual basketball discussion regarding the two. You might wind up with your feelings hurt.:yeshrug:

BRUH .. KG HIMSELF WILL TELL U HE NOT BETTER THAN KOBE LMFAO. STOP THAT.

AND KG WAS GREAT, BUT HE BARELY SCRATCHIN THE SURFACE OF TOP 20
 

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U DONT BELIEVE THIS .. IF HE WAS THE MOST MEDIA HYPED PLAYER OF ALL TIME HE WOULDNT HAVE BEEN PICKED 12 WHILE LEBRON WAS PICKED 3 ON THE ESPN ALL TIME LIST. NOT ONLY DOES IT PROVE OP POINT, ITS FLAT OUT RETARDED. THEY GO OUT THEIR WAY TO SHIIT ON HIM. ACT LIKE U KNOW.
His accomplishments just do not match the narrative. There is no way to reconcile the difference between how Kobe was perceived and celebrated versus his actual numbers. Say what you want about advanced stats but they generally support the narratives. shyt, we can ignore advanced stats and look at the basic stats and even they don't support Kobe being in the top 5.

The only way you are able to place him there is to remove your protective helmet and put on your tinfoil hat and just argue that if Kobe had a, b, and c, he'd have 40ppg, 10 rings, etc while you evaluate all other players for what they actually did in real life.

You're a pathetic individual.
 

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His accomplishments just do not match the narrative. There is no way to reconcile the difference between how Kobe was perceived and celebrated versus his actual numbers. Say what you want about advanced stats but they generally support the narratives. shyt, we can ignore advanced stats and look at the basic stats and even they don't support Kobe being in the top 5.

The only way you are able to place him there is to remove your protective helmet and put on your tinfoil hat and just argue that if Kobe had a, b, and c, he'd have 40ppg, 10 rings, etc while you evaluate all other players for what they actually did in real life.

You're a pathetic individual.

OK MRS. FABER

WHEN U LOOK AT CAREER NUMBERS AND ACCOMPLISHMENTS, COMBINED WIT SKILLSET, NOT MANY MATCH KOBE

THATS ALL THERE IS TO IT, YOUNG MAN
 
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