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Let's admit the cold hard truth about kobe - media ruined Kobe's legit top 3-4 status
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Bilz
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So because some people in the media thought he deserved MVP, that means "the media" as a whole felt that way?
If that's the case, the media thought Kobe was MVP in 2006 and you need to stop bytching.
Take a break and collect yourself, Hebe. Your posting is of particularly low quality today.
Right because the media didn't tell you how good KG is so you honestly believe this because Kobe really has had prolly the best hype machine behind him in NBA history. Better than LeBron and prolly better than Jordan. This nikka was an all-star his second year in the league and prolly the 4th best player on his team off media hype.
REAL HOOPERS know what's good with the kid and know good and well KG is prolly a better player than Kobe. Foh with this Ticket disrespect
THE SAME MEDIA THAT RANKED HIM 12TH ALL TIME N LEBRON 3RD WHEN EVERY RESPECTED NBA PLAYER SAYS KOBE IS BETTER
A GARNETT GROUPIE WIT THE REACH
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Love and Bosh were and are shooters. That's been the case their whole careers. James has never played in a top tier offensive system because he's never had a great offensive mind for a coach. 14 years in and he's played for Paul Silas, Mike Brown, Erik Spoelstra, David Blatt, and Tyrone Lue. That's a real murderers row of offensive minds there. I think they've combined to win 2 total playoff series without him, that being the 2012 quarterfinals between the lakers and nuggets and the 2016 quarterfinals between the hornets and heat. Both players have been pretty consistent with their averages and tendencies as players pretty much from the get go for James and from when he became a starter for Kobe. I loved to watch bean play, and his game was much prettier, but he took a lot of horrid shots that he didn't need to take.
LEBRON GOT BLATT FIRED BECAUSE HE WAS TRYNA GET THE BALL MOVING .. HE WOULDNT SACRAFICE INDIVIDUAL STATS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE TEAM.
LOVE AND BOSH WERE BOTH CONSIDERED TOP 10 PLAYERS BEFORE MOVING....THEY WERE PRETTY MUCH TREATED LIKE ROLE PLAYERS ONCE THEY PLAYED WITH LEBRON.
FACTS.
THIS FUCCIN NOBODY BETA WHO HASNT MADE A FEATURED THREAD IN HIS ENTIRE POSTING CAREER STILL TALKIN BOUT QUALITY POSTING
LEBRON WAS CELEBRATED FOR A FEAT THAT THESE WEIRDOS ARE TRYNA DISS KOBE FOR. PERIOD. AND YES, KOBE SHOULDA CLEARLY WON MVP IN 06 AND WOULDA WON HAD HE BEEN PAMPERED BY THE MEDIA THE WAY BRONZE IS.
Bilz
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LeBron wasn't celebrated for shooting around Kobe's career average in the finals, he was given credit for putting up crazy all around numbers and winning a couple games in the finals with a depleted team, just like Kobe got credit for scoring a lot on a team that wasn't very good.THIS FUCCIN NOBODY BETA WHO HASNT MADE A FEATURED THREAD IN HIS ENTIRE POSTING CAREER STILL TALKIN BOUT QUALITY POSTING
LEBRON WAS CELEBRATED FOR A FEAT THAT THESE WEIRDOS ARE TRYNA DISS KOBE FOR. PERIOD. AND YES, KOBE SHOULDA CLEARLY WON MVP IN 06 AND WOULDA WON HAD HE BEEN PAMPERED BY THE MEDIA THE WAY BRONZE IS.
They both got consideration and did not win. You are bytching about inequality when you are really just being a greedy jew and selectively ignoring parts of the story.
Love and Bosh were and are shooters. That's been the case their whole careers. James has never played in a top tier offensive system because he's never had a great offensive mind for a coach. 14 years in and he's played for Paul Silas, Mike Brown, Erik Spoelstra, David Blatt, and Tyrone Lue. That's a real murderers row of offensive minds there
Kevin Love:
2012-2013 3 points made up 30% of his shots, 2013-2014 it was 35%. The last two years 3 points have made up 45% of his shot attempts.
In his final year in Minny he took 25% of his shots 0-3 ft from the basket scoring at a ridiculous clip of 67%. the last 2 years he's take 19% in that range, shooting 55% from there.
Chris Bosh:
With the Raptors he averaged nearly 35% of his shots in the 0-3 range. In the 4 years with Lebron that average is roughly 28%. He also never started shooting 3 pointers until he came to the Heat and had to start spreading the floor. In fairness to Lebron here, Wade also didn't help in this dynamic as both couldn't help space the floor so Bosh sort of had to learn.
Lebron James:
After his first year with the Heat, his percentage of shots at the rim has just steadily increased year after year after year, in the last 2 years shooting 44% of his shot attempts at the 0-3 feet range.
Also Blatt is heavily regarded for his offensive schemes yet Lebron ran him out of town. He wanted a motion offense, Lebron wanted no part, and he put Lue in place and now they're running Lue's "system" of your turn my turn. Spo is also a pretty damn good offensive coach and gets the most out of his players. Lebron simply does not adjust to his teammates at all, the only year he really tried was 2011, and since then it's just been Lebron ball.
So no, Lebron does not play in systems. Teams employ offenses around him that maximize him, but he wants that too. Sacrifice doesn't work with him and that is a drawback of his. While Kobe took contested shots repeatedly, he also did draw attention away from his teammates often as well and made that triangle work(funny how garbage the triangle looks without players like Kobe/Jordan, Lebron's teammates do get open because of Lebron but they're main design it get Lebron easier looks at the rim and spread the floor for him and wait for a pass if he kicks out of a drive.
Trece
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BETA BILZ WIT THE TRY HARD RETORT
LEBRON SHOT 39% IN THE 2015 FINALS AND LOST, THEN GOT PRAISED BY THE GENERAL CONSENSUS
KOBE SHOT 41% IN THE 2010 FINALS AND WON, THEN GOT CRUCIFIED BY THE GENETAL CONSENSUS
WHETHER THEY WON MVP OR NOT, THESE WERE THE NARRATIVES CREATED.
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It was kinda the reverse in Miami actually. They had no clue how to play together in the half court and stayed trying to play him as a traditional small forward with Joel Anthony and big z as the centers. The offense really struggled. Once they started playing small and putting James at power forward, you saw everyone start to move better, and James too. The biggest change aside from that was how well Wade started moving off the ball. The shyt with a part was pretty bad though. I'm surprised nobody else spoke up. Seemed like half the team didn't care either. As for spo, he's a head scratcher. One minute he looks brilliant and the next he looks clueless. 3 of his first 4 seasons without LeBron the heat were 25th in scoring or worse. The offense being so good the second half of the season really came out of nowhere. The one thing I'll say about spo is that he usually learns from his mistakes and corrects them for keeps, even though it'll take him a while for some of them.
you become half the man you used to be when you play with bron. for real
look at bron's passes. 9 out of 10 times wide open designed passes. sure bron can get creative sometimes, but it sure ain't magic or bird level of vision and creativity.
Bilz
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Who is this genital consensus you're talking about? You are a stupid insecure Jew and whenever you hear anyone anywhere say something you don't like about Kobe or LeBron, you convince yourself that the world is against you. That it's some massive media conspiracy to hold you and Kobe down.
"Some guy on twitter from Vermont made fun of Kobe for going 6-24! But some guy on twitter from Texas said LeBron played amazing even though he shot 40%! There is no consistency! Everyone is against Kobe!"
Go fukk yourself.