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We moved to on/off breh, Lakers literally better with him off the court. Final year Kobe with one knee/one Achilles, just chucking up shots had a better on/off then Bron has right now. That's how bad it is. To have a negative plus/minus as a starter on a 50 win team is almost impossible
Y’all really don’t want to start cherry picking +/- to validate your irrational hatred of this man. :mjlol:
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We moved to on/off breh, Lakers literally better with him off the court. Final year Kobe with one knee/one Achilles, just chucking up shots had a better on/off then Bron has right now. That's how bad it is. To have a negative plus/minus as a starter on a 50 win team is almost impossible
The Lakers wouldn't be a 50 win team if one of their highest minute players was that bad :unimpressed:. They went 18-3 with Luka and AD barely playing but Lebron is post achilles injury Kobe? :mjlol:

But like I said, since ya'll care about on/off numbers those impact metrics paint Lebron as the GOAT. His on/off and offensive rating swing (with vs. without him) is the highest ever recorded among modern greats.
 

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Did I say anything about career numbers? We talking about this season. And once again y'all don't seem to understand the difference between plus/minus and on/off so I'ma stop talking to y'all :mjlol:
Nah I’m with you, as bad as LeBron has been this year he still runs circles around your surrogate daddy. :umad:
 

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The Lakers wouldn't be a 50 win team if one of their highest minute players was that bad :unimpressed:. They went 18-3 with Luka and AD barely playing but Lebron is post achilles injury Kobe? :mjlol:

But like I said, since ya'll care about on/off numbers those impact metrics paint Lebron as the GOAT. His on/off and offensive rating swing (with vs. without him) is the highest ever recorded among modern greats.

Browse this page, maybe you'll learn something

 

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Browse this page, maybe you'll learn something

You clearly have no clue what these numbers mean Jorge :dead:



And this was early in the season before Lebron started playing at an all-NBA level. Most impact metrics (EPM, RPM, VORP, etc) depict him as a top 20 player.
 

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You clearly have no clue what these numbers mean Jorge :dead:



And this was early in the season before Lebron started playing at an all-NBA level. Most impact metrics (EPM, RPM, VORP, etc) depict him as a top 20 player.


Do you not see that graphic you posted brehito? And even if he's the unluckiest player of all time he should sit to help the team since the opponents magically miss 3s when he's on the bench :dead:
 

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Do you not see that graphic you posted brehito? And even if he's the unluckiest player of all time he should sit to help the team since the opponents magically miss 3s when he's on the bench :dead:
Yes, and a lot of it was a result of an insane swing in three point percentage. As that's stabilized and Lebron's play has increased (pre injury), so has his on/off numbers and other impact metrics. Like I said, he's a top 20 player according to every impact metric that these crackers laud as being accurate.
 

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We moved to on/off breh, Lakers literally better with him off the court. Final year Kobe with one knee/one Achilles, just chucking up shots had a better on/off then Bron has right now. That's how bad it is. To have a negative plus/minus as a starter on a 50 win team is almost impossible


damn wtf :dead:
 
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