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I remember winning a LBJ rookie poster at a fair in 03 that I had on my wall for a couple years :mjcry:

 
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Osmosis said:
5 steals + blocks in this game and he's a better defender now than Jordan was as a Wizard :manny:
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Lebron at 40 +/-: -129
MJ at 40 +/-: +6

The Bron playbook is to pull out the "check the stats" play over actually watching the games. While Bron is ccurrently hiding on defense so he can rest enough to go full force on offense, Jordan was 40 actually trying to guard guys like TMac, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter and Kobe.
 
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Everythingg said:
:patrice:

Lebron at 40 +/-: -129
MJ at 40 +/-: +6

The Bron playbook is to pull out the "check the stats" play over actually watching the games. While Bron is ccurrently hiding on defense so he can rest enough to go full force on offense, Jordan was 40 actually trying to guard guys like TMac, Paul Pierce, Vince Carter and Kobe.
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Alot of that is because of opponent shooting luck and Lebron's slump. It will stabilize as the season progresses. Guarantee he finishes higher than +6.

Lebron at 38: +214
Lebron at 39: +220

Jordan at 38: +45
Jordan at 39: +17

Wizards Jordan was big trash :wow:
 
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Osmosis said:
Alot of that is because of opponent shooting luck and Lebron's slump. It will stabilize as the season progresses. Guarantee he finishes higher than +6.

Lebron at 38: +214
Lebron at 39: +220

Jordan at 38: +45
Jordan at 39: +17

Wizards Jordan was big trash :wow:
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Lebron @ 38: plays with a top 5 player(like always)
Lebron @ 39: plays with a top 5 player (like always)

MJ @ 38: plays with ???
MJ @ 39 plays with ???

Since Lebron has to stack the deck to even attempt at chasing MJ, he better have a higher plus minus. Thats with them attempting 1017 more free throws than their opponents (as March 2024). The next team has almost 700 free throws less at +358 :laff:. So even with stacking the deck with good teammates (before blaming them when things fall apart) and getting a push from the refs, he still can't get it done? Maybe MJ should have hid on defense by guarding the worst player and cherry picked instead of guarding VC, TMac, and Paul Pierce in their prime so he could point to the stats whenever they lose before pushing blame onto the teammates
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Everythingg said:
Lebron @ 38: plays with a top 5 player(like always)
Lebron @ 39: plays with a top 5 player (like always)

MJ @ 38: plays with ???
MJ @ 39 plays with ???

Since Lebron has to stack the deck to even attempt at chasing MJ, he better have a higher plus minus. Thats with them attempting 1017 more free throws than their opponents (as March 2024). The next team has almost 700 free throws less at +358 :laff:. So even with stacking the deck with good teammates (before blaming them when things fall apart) and getting a push from the refs, he still can't get it done? Maybe MJ should have hid on defense by guarding the worst player and cherry picked instead of guarding VC, TMac, and Paul Pierce in their prime so he could point to the stats whenever they lose before pushing blame onto the teammates
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Jordan played on a team that won nearly 60 games and made the finals with a guy named Pete Myers replacing him, that's the epitome of a stacked deck.

Jordan didn't even have a better plus/minus than Richard Hamilton in 2001 :dead: he was absolute dogshyt.

In 2001-2002:
Jordan averaged 23 PPG on 47 TS%
Hamilton averaged 20 PPG on 51 TS%

In 2002-2003:
Jordan averaged 20 PPG on 49 TS%
Stackhouse averaged 22 PPG on 53 TS%

Wizards Jordan played with bums and wasn't even the best player on his team :mjlol: He was one of the worst chuckers in the league.


Lebron +/- in 2024: +220
AD +/- in 2024: +151

Lebron +/- without AD as a Laker: +160
 
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Osmosis said:
Jordan played on a team that won nearly 60 games and made the finals with a guy named Pete Myers replacing him, that's the epitome of a stacked deck.

Jordan didn't even have a better plus/minus than Richard Hamilton in 2001 :dead: he was absolute dogshyt.

In 2001-2002:
Jordan averaged 23 PPG on 47 TS%
Hamilton averaged 20 PPG on 51 TS%

In 2002-2003:
Jordan averaged 20 PPG on 49 TS%
Stackhouse averaged 22 PPG on 53 TS%

Wizards Jordan played with bums and wasn't even the best player on his team :mjlol: He was one of the worst chuckers in the league.


Lebron +/- in 2024: +220
AD +/- in 2024: +151

Lebron +/- without AD as a Laker: +160
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Like how you left out this year in which
Bron -129
AD - 47

But I don't understand anybody arguing who is better at 38 plus Bron or Jordan. The better argument would be if retirement didn't happen because Jordan was obviously different when he came back.
 
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Bigblackted4 said:
Like how you left out this year in which
Bron -129
AD - 47

But I don't understand anybody arguing who is better at 38 plus Bron or Jordan. The better argument would be if retirement didn't happen because Jordan was obviously different when he came back.
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The Bron stans can’t say Bron was better than MJ in their primes which is the only thing that matters. Now they are resorting to comparing 2 old over the hill players. Nasty
 
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