VegetasHairline
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All these walls of text! 
Lebron really looks old now
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DLO has the best +/- on the team… are we really gonna say that he is the best player on the Lakers?Lakers are literally better with Bron on the bench, this is why you don't hire a players buddy podcacster to coach. JJ ain't telling Bron shyt
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DLO is the worst defender on the Lakers. You can’t just pick and choose whichever stat you wanna go based off to fit a narrative lolWe on to ON/OFF these days, keep up
trying to help my undocumented ese out
Michael Jordan played 15 seasons. LeBron passed him in total points in his 16th season despite taking 1,000 less field goal attempts and in assists in his 11th season.
Bron:
1st in points all time and 4th in assists all-time.
Bron is 7th in PPG all-time and 24 in APG.
Jordan:
5th in points all-time and 52nd in assists all-time.
Jordan is 1st in PPG all-time and 107th in APG.
Check his $tats, Bron Bron the better offensive player
IsThatBrothaMouzone?
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Honestly I agree.Bron was drafted, the summer I was going into 9th grade. I still remember watching his high school games on ESPN in 8th and 7th grade...
Its been time. Once an ironman, when he started getting hurt consistently it was time to go. I woulda been cool with him retiring after an even 20 in '23. That woulda been 3 years trying to reclaim a title but couldn't stay healthy and production was decreasing by the year...
Greatest player to play the sport, my mind cant be changed on this unless someone better comes along. I'm a historian of the game and I've watched it with my own eyes, going on 26 years...
But its time to let it go...
I'm judging Jordan against his contemporaries. The 90s era he had all his success, was a competitively weak era, historically...
He dominated that era more than Bron dominated his because the opposition was weaker. It's more impressive that Bron dominated a stronger era and is the only 1-man dynasty in NBA history...
Jordan was a system player, but thats fine because most guys are! And to be fair Jordan is the ultimate system player. But only being able to win championships, with one coach, one philosophy, one style of play, is an indictment, not a positive, in the context of All-Time comparison...
You can deride "Bron ball" but different variations of Bron ball brought championships to different coaches, philosophies, and systems. He's the most versatile player ever, he didn't need a specific system to be able to win big...
LeBron has the greatest defensive play in NBA history, and there are countless examples of him shouldering elite defense abd elite offense in the same games and series. We aint playing this gane with you, fam...
You say I been watching since '99 like that was yesterdayyou can disagree with my opinions but I'm clearly not some Johnny come lately who just started watching ball 7 years ago...
He caught Mike 8½ years ago with the 3-1 comeback. Everything else since, has just been icing on the cake...
Greatest basket
I would rather have MJ's resume (NCAA title, 2 gold medals and 6 for 6)....but Bron is more of a floor raiser than MJ was.
MJ put up numbers and was elite on bad teams but Bron did the same and made them competitive teams. The 80s East >>>>> The 00's East, so that has to be considered. Still, if I'm starting a team from scratch, I'd pick Bron just because he's more versatile with his size and can be used in different ways.
MJ, as great as he was....probably could have been even greater (if that's even possible) if he approached shyt like Bron...eat clean, limited drinking/smoking/partying etc. MJ did all that drinking brown liquor, smoking cigars and gambling all night. Not sure if that's a plus or minus on MJ.
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
"Bronboys say the darnedest things" ass nikka
Only his groupies would say this
Michael Jordan played 15 seasons. LeBron passed him in total points in his 16th season despite taking 1,000 less field goal attempts and in assists in his 11th season.
Bron:
1st in points all time and 4th in assists all-time.
Bron is 7th in PPG all-time and 24 in APG.
Jordan:
5th in points all-time and 52nd in assists all-time.
Jordan is 1st in PPG all-time and 107th in APG.
Check his $tats, Bron Bron the better offensive player
Accumulative stats
Stats per gameLazy analysis
You can't use Magic averaging more assists than MJ as a slight when everyone knows damn well they weren't playing the same position or role. Just like you can't use Karl Malone averaging more rebounds than MJ as a slight against when everyone knows Karl Malone was the bigger/stronger player. But this is what comes with Bron Bron.
That "check my stats" energy
He can't say "check my accomplishments"when going for MJ because the space between him and MJ when it comes to that is the HOF top 3 SF of all time career of KD. He also can't say "check my winning" because he's up against someone who won 6 with only 1 other HOF for most of them while Lebron won most of his with at least 2 other HOFers (sometimes 3)and a Mickey Mouse ring with another top 5 player at the time who actually played better than him since he played great defense.. The only argument that can be made is the stats one
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Michael Jordan played 15 seasons. LeBron passed him in total points in his 16th season despite taking 1,000 less field goal attempts and in assists in his 11th season.
Bron:
1st in points all time and 4th in assists all-time.
Bron is 7th in PPG all-time and 24 in APG.
Jordan:
5th in points all-time and 52nd in assists all-time.
Jordan is 1st in PPG all-time and 107th in APG.
Check his $tats, Bron Bron the better offensive player
Imagine playing for 30 years and only having one scoring title
I mean MJ led the league in FG attempts 9 times. Lebron has neverImagine playing for 30 years and only having one scoring title
That’s normally how it works. The majority of the time the guy who led the league in FG attempts is the scoring leader
"Bronboys say the darnedest things" ass nikka
Only his groupies would say this
Accumulative stats
Lazy analysis
You can't use Magic averaging more assists than MJ as a slight when everyone knows damn well they weren't playing the same position or role. Just like you can't use Karl Malone averaging more rebounds than MJ as a slight against when everyone knows Karl Malone was the bigger/stronger player. But this is what comes with Bron Bron.
That "check my stats" energy
He can't say "check my accomplishments"when going for MJ because the space between him and MJ when it comes to that is the HOF top 3 SF of all time career of KD. He also can't say "check my winning" because he's up against someone who won 6 with only 1 other HOF for most of them while Lebron won most of his with at least 2 other HOFers (sometimes 3)and a Mickey Mouse ring with another top 5 player at the time who actually. played better than him since he played great defense.. The only argument that can be made is the stats one
MJ accrued those accomplishments in the weakest era in NBA history on a team that won upwards to 60 games without him. He wouldn't have half of his accomplishments in the 80s or 2000s.
I listed per game stats too.. Both the cumulative stats and per game stats paint Bron as the greater offensive force
And still passed Jordan in total points while taking 1000 less shots and less FTsImagine playing for 30 years and only having one scoring title
Everythingg
King-Over-Kingz
How can anyone make this argument when MJ started from scratch with the a bottom cellar Chicago bulls team )who accomplished nothing before him) and turned them into a dynasty? And did this with his best teammate being an unknown draft pick at first (Scottie Pippen) who grew into an being an all time great by playing alongside MJ? Bron couldn't get it done and had to run to Miami to team up with the best player in the conference (besides himself) to actually win.
We actually saw Jordan be a floor raiser while Lebron failed to do it in Cleveland then went to LA and failed again with lottery picks in Ingram and Lonzo and underrated pick ups in Josh Hart and Kuzma? Then when he failed, he runs to a top 5 player (again) in AD. Even Kobe had Bynum elevate from a no name draft pick to an all star center that was the 2nd best C in the league behind Dwight. How come Lebron hasn't had anyone elevate under him if he's the better floor raiser that "makes players around him better"?
Dude is hard headed. He’s been among league leaders in minutes the last few years even as the whole league has shifted to less minutes. And then come playoffs you haven’t empowered your guys bc Bron is Lehelicopter teammate so they shrink and they’re subservient to Lebron and then it becomes ‘Lebron has to do everything look how trash these guys are’
The vicious cycleAs a ‘Bron fan’ it’s why I can’t even pay attention to that team. His shadow is just too big. Last few years feels like one big coronation as supposed to trying to win a chip.
And AD was the WORST superstar to pair him with personality-wise. He 30 years old a grizzled vet in nba terms but with Bron he’s stuck in little brother mode so he not gon say shyt
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Nah
It’s all a lie
He’s had more help than everyone yet has lost more than anyone when it matters the most