"LeBron James has ruined the NBA. He is the anti-jordan" - RobParker

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Always funny to see LeBron defenders try to defend his complete destruction of parity and competitiveness. LBJ knew exactly what he was doing. That's why he said "Not 1, Not 2, Not 3..."

And that's precisely why as soon as LBJ went to Miami, only his teams have made it out of the east. And, to be honest, this is going to continue for the next 4 or 5 years. People who talk about how bad LBJ's Cleveland teams were fail to realize that is the predicament that most teams in the east are in. LBJ, could have easily waited in Cleveland, gotten a star to come and then win some Championships. I would have had more respect for him if he did that. LBJ, has absolutely no desire to play in a competitive league. That's why after he left Miami, he orchestrated the trade for Kevin Love. LBJ is a great player, probably top 3 of all time, but he destroyed basketball in the Eastern Conference.


He ain't top 3 that's insane and disrespectful to too many other players
 

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You have no understanding of cause and effect, do you? They don't have to be the exact same thing to be correlated. LeBron started the trend of teaming up with superstars and building superteams and Durant took it a step further. You could argue that Boston started it but, they were all over 30 at the time. LeBron's decision to join up with two other stars in their 20s created a paradigm shift that had ripple effects across the league. If Miami doesn't come together, KD doesn't go to Golden State years later.
Lebron didn't start start anything. Bosh was never a superstar and Wade was non the downside of his career.

The nerve of you even quoting me. You're another fakkit with no integrity. Don't quote me trying to intellectualize your fakkitry. You're lame ass Kobe cocksucker and that's the perspective of everything you post basketball related. fukk you, you deserved to be slapped on your mouth. Grown ass man on some groupie shyt. bytch.
 

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that idiot talking head is banking on you casuals who don't know history of the game to agree with that dumb shyt.

kd and bron both on the same journey, but how you get there counts. lebron made his teams contenders. withouth him there was no chance for those teams to win a title.

kd was scared of being "the man". not only did he run away from the challenge, but considering the circumstances, he did something thottish by going to gs.

when and if kd wins a title it will be one of the least meaningful titles by a superstar top tier player the game has seen.

spin it how you want, the similarities are superficial but the differences are glaring.

So bosh and wade couldn't of won a title or at least be contenders?
 

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Let's be real.. If LeBron or KD go to YOUR team to either put it over the top or add to an already stout team, you would love it!

Kill that noise.. :camby:

As far as Rob Parker goes.... It's Rob Parker. :stopitslime:

I would stop being a laker fan if lebron ever went to my team
 

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Many would say it was the boston big 3 that started this. I completely disagree. I believe due to LeBron making it a point to go out and team with two of the top 6 or 7 players at that time (bosh being say 6 or 7 and wade being top 3). This reverberates thru the league the only way to win is join forces. Bron took the easy way out
 

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I would stop being a laker fan if lebron ever went to my team
Well, that's easily some of the dumbest shyt I've ever heard. :gucci:


I'd turn the bandwagon fans who try to claim my team away, but if we (Sixers) didn't have the young pieces that we do, I'd welcome a top tier FA like LeBron or KD all day long!
 

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Lebron went to miami because cleveland wasn't willing to give up the pieces to get Stoudamire.They ended up trading for Jamison instead.Don't blame Lebron for going to miami,blame the gm/ownership.


Stoudemire saw his place in King's court
Thursday, December 2, 2010, 4:00 AM

Amar'e Stoudemire believes that LeBron James would have re-signed with the Cavaliers last summer had Cleveland pulled the trigger on a deal to acquire Stoudemire from the Phoenix Suns.

In fact, Stoudemire was committed to becoming James' full-time running mate until the Cavs shifted their focus from Stoudemire and instead traded for Antawn Jamison last winter.

And at posters talking about Allen/Garnett being old in 2008.KG was 33 years old. Ray Allen, 32. Paul Pierce, 30 years old.Lebron James is currently 32 years old.I hope nobody expects Lebron's old head ass to beat GS in this years finals.

Season before RA/KG joined Boston,and DW/CB teaming up with Lebron:

Garnett:22.4p/12.8r/4.1a/1.2s/1.7b/48%/83%
Bosh:24.0p/10.8r/2.4a/1b/0.6s/52%/80%

Allen:26.4p/4.5r/4.1a/1.5s/44%/37%/90%
Wade:26.6p/4.8r/5.4a/1.8s/48%/30%/76%

All 4 players were elite players.....Garnett was 1st-team All-NBA in 2008 and finished 3rd in MVP.Ray Allen was a All-star.

Yeah,washed up Ray Allen dropping 51 points on the Bulls
 

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"They both put themselves in a position to get a ring in the easiest way possible"

Do you dispute that?

that was already conceded. my position is the circumstances are a lot more relevant than your simplified statement suggests.

again, none of lebron's teams win a title without him. kd going to gs was like dolly parton getting a boob job.

this parker guy is trying to dumb down the comparison to the point where the details don't matter.

So bosh and wade couldn't of won a title or at least be contenders?

no they wouldn't win a title without lebron. you'd have to make some hypothetical about them adding pieces and lebron not adding pieces.

being a "contender" in the east doesn't mean anything other than conceding you'll lose to lebron's teams in the conf finals.
 

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that was already conceded. my position is the circumstances are a lot more relevant than your simplified statement suggests.

again, none of lebron's teams win a title without him. kd going to gs was like dolly parton getting a boob job.

this parker guy is trying to dumb down the comparison to the point where the details don't matter.



no they wouldn't win a title without lebron. you'd have to make some hypothetical about them adding pieces and lebron not adding pieces.

being a "contender" in the east doesn't mean anything other than conceding you'll lose to lebron's teams in the conf finals.

I've said from day one that what Durant did was way cornier than lebron

I just can't pretend that I don't think lebron would have done the same thing Durant did if he had the opportunity to. Lebron took a less than max deal so he could play with 2 superstars, then when he saw that they were getting old he left for a situation where he could play with 2 younger stars who had a bigger window to compete. That shows me that he wants to win as many rings as possible.....same as Durant.

Lol at dolly pardon getting a boob job though :russ:

That's a great analogy
 

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No the Thunder could've and would've beaten he warriors. Durant left Because goldenstate players were his friends.

Just like Lebron left because he wanted to play with his friends wade and bosh in Miami.

nah he left more to rig the game in his favor really.

miami had 3 good players and 8 trash players in 2011
 

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Yeah imagine bean,magic and mj leaving teams that had Kareem, shaq, cooper, ac green, rambis, Nixon, Wilkes, worthy, rice, Malone, glove, gasoline, Bynum, Odom, arrest, horry, Harper,pippen, grant, rodman, mcadoo, van exel, Eddie jones, riley, Phil, etc etc :coffee: shame on bron for not winning during his first stint in Cleveland were boobi Gibson and mo Williams not enough :palm:


Dirk won with Jason Terry and a washed Jason Kidd.
 

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PP, Ray & KG were never ever regarded as the best player(s) in the league. Of course Kobe haters would say Ray Allen and Pierce were better than Kobe, but everyone with a brain knew that was pure BS. KG was called the tin man, he had no heart.. They really overacheieved.
KG was MVP in 04. Stop.
 
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