LeBron James has been favored to win the Finals 2 out of 6 times

[Newzz]

You need permission from pops?

You really think I give a damn?

It's pretty spelled out an obvious. What betting man would put the Cavs over the Warriors?

Somehow, that's overlooked to focus on Bron. A 260 pound great athlete isn't allowed to be an underdog in y'all dumb ass eyes.

The Warriors are the favorites

The odds mean little to LeBron James, however.

"Not my concern," James said Tuesday, speaking to the media for the first time since the Cavs' Finals rematch with Golden State was set. "I don't get involved in all of that -- underdog, overdog, whatever the case may be. It's stupidity."

 

[NYC Rebel]

The odds mean little to LeBron James, however.

"Not my concern," James said Tuesday, speaking to the media for the first time since the Cavs' Finals rematch with Golden State was set. "I don't get involved in all of that -- underdog, overdog, whatever the case may be. It's stupidity."

"The odds mean little to Lebron James."



Who cares? The odds always mean little to delusional athletes. You probably took Amir Khan feeling the same way vs Canelo since odds "mean little to me."-Khan about his chances vs Canelo.



fukk outta here using "well this athlete said shyt" as some proving ground.

You dudes are just dumb.

The Warriors are the favorites

 

[NYC Rebel]

Look for athletes who are odds on underdogs to say "we are underdogs....and we agree that we will likely lose!" Brehs.

 

[Jplaya2023]

can someone post this

LeBron's losing Finals record is so underrated

@Skooby

 

[Newzz]

"The odds mean little to Lebron James."



Who cares? The odds always mean little to delusional athletes. You probably took Amir Khan feeling the same way vs Canelo since odds "mean little to me."-Khan about his chances vs Canelo.

But...didn't you JUST say:

You just compared a boxing match vs a best out of 7 games team sport.

....to someone else?




"Bu-bu-but it's different this time tho"




Get your debate game up Champ.....

 

[NYC Rebel]

But...didn't you JUST say:





....to someone else?




"Bu-bu-but it's different this time tho"




Get your debate game up Champ.....

I sure did. Which has nothing to do with ME responding to YOU bringing up Lebrons comments.

Stop being corny.

 

[Newzz]

I sure did. Which has nothing to do with ME responding to YOU bringing up Lebrons comments.

Stop being corny.

And this is why I don't debate with you and no one else should



"It's okay for me to compare a Boxing match vs a best ouf of 7 games team sport, but not anybody else"



Clownish behavior from you....but Im not surprised, that's your M.O.

 

[NYC Rebel]

And this is why I don't debate with you and no one else should



"It's okay for me to compare a Boxing match vs a best ouf of 7 games team sport, but not anybody else"



Clownish behavior from you....but Im not surprised, that's your M.O.

You don't debate with me because your points are always proven to be shyt.

"Let's go by what Lebron thinks." Who goes by what an underdog thinks? Who looks for them to say "we are likely to lose?"

Ever notice how I'm staying on the subject and you're respsonding about me?

Just stop. You make shyt points.

Please....go to Vegas and pick the Cavs cuz of Brons comments.

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

I broke this down on here a long time ago and people weren't trying to here me......He's been the underdog in most of his Finals.


Series Odds listed below:

-Against San Antonio in 2007: The Spurs were -500/Cavs were +400. Spurs were believed to have an 83 percent chance of winning the Series.

-Against The Mavs in 2011: The Heat were a -180 favorite/Dallas was +160. Heat were believed to have 64 percent chance of winning the Series.

(Note: Lebron's poor performance aside, I spent some time thinking about this recently and I do believe there were fundamental flaws in the design of the Heat's offense that played a key part in this result. For starters, the 2011 heat didn't have the spacing and perimeter shooting that later Heat teams had. Having Joel Anthony starting is a lot different from deciding to play Bosh at Center and Battier at the 4.)

-Against Oklahoma City in 2012: The Thunder are also -165 series Heat were +149. The Thunder were believed to have a 62 percent chance of winning the Series.

(Note: In retrospect, this may throw people off that OKC were such huge favorites given the gentleman's sweep Miami put on them but at the time OKC was seen as the better team. OKC had a better record, had home court and had the 2nd best offense in the league, coming off 4 straight wins against the Spurs, which looked like the prohibited favorites to win the Finals against a Heat team that recently struggled with Boston & Indiana and were experimenting with a small ball lineup with Battier at the 4. In the end it was Brooks refusal to adjust and go small [as well as OKC's youth] which ultimately doomed this series.)

-Against San Antonio in 2013: The Heat were -220/Spurs +190. The Heat were believed to have a 68 percent chance of winning the Series.

-Against San Antonio in 2014: The Spurs were -125 favorites over the Heat +105......Spurs were believed to have 55 percent chance at winning this series.

(Note: I know hindsight is 20/20 but I felt this way at the time. This Series was priced incorrectly. The odds could have easily been in the 70 to 80 percent range given the circumstances.
You had an older Miami Heat team who went to 4 straight NBA finals that found it difficult to execute their famous trapping scheme with Wade on bad knees, older role players, a burnt out Lebron James who was forced to carry the Heat all season long as they rested Dwyane Wade going against an all time great playoff scoring offense who effortlessly moved the ball and scored 119 points per 100 possessions. )

-Against Golden Sate in 2015: Warriors were -250/Cavs +210. Warriors were believed to have a 69% chance of winning the Series.


and now Golden State in 2016: Warriors are -225/Cavs are +185.........

 

[OfTheCross]

I broke this down on here a long time ago and people weren't trying to here me......He's been the underdog in most of his Finals.


Series Odds listed below:

-Against San Antonio in 2007: The Spurs were -500/Cavs were +400. Spurs were believed to have an 83 percent chance of winning the Series.

-Against The Mavs in 2011: The Heat were a -180 favorite/Dallas was +160. Heat were believed to have 64 percent chance of winning the Series.

(Note: Lebron's poor performance aside, I spent some time thinking about this recently and I do believe there were fundamental flaws in the design of the Heat's offense that played a key part in this result. For starters, the 2011 heat didn't have the spacing and perimeter shooting that later Heat teams had. Having Joel Anthony starting is a lot different from deciding to play Bosh at Center and Battier at the 4.)

-Against Oklahoma City in 2012: The Thunder are also -165 series Heat were +149. The Thunder were believed to have a 62 percent chance of winning the Series.

(Note: In retrospect, this may throw people off that OKC were such huge favorites given the gentleman's sweep Miami put on them but at the time OKC was seen as the better team. OKC had a better record, had home court and had the 2nd best offense in the league, coming off 4 straight wins against the Spurs, which looked like the prohibited favorites to win the Finals against a Heat team that recently struggled with Boston & Indiana and were experimenting with a small ball lineup with Battier at the 4. In the end it was Brooks refusal to adjust and go small [as well as OKC's youth] which ultimately doomed this series.)

-Against San Antonio in 2013: The Heat were -220/Spurs +190. The Heat were believed to have a 68 percent chance of winning the Series.

-Against San Antonio in 2014: The Spurs were -125 favorites over the Heat +105......Spurs were believed to have 55 percent chance at winning this series.

(Note: I know hindsight is 20/20 but I felt this way at the time. This Series was priced incorrectly. The odds could have easily been in the 70 to 80 percent range given the circumstances.
You had an older Miami Heat team who went to 4 straight NBA finals that found it difficult to execute their famous trapping scheme with Wade on bad knees, older role players, a burnt out Lebron James who was forced to carry the Heat all season long as they rested Dwyane Wade going against an all time great playoff scoring offense who effortlessly moved the ball and scored 119 points per 100 possessions. )

-Against Golden Sate in 2015: Warriors were -250/Cavs +210. Warriors were believed to have a 69% chance of winning the Series.


and now Golden State in 2016: Warriors are -225/Cavs are +185.........

Thanks for looking that up. But I also want it to be clear that just looking at those series w/o the odds , his teams would be the underdog more often than not.

 

[EducatedBrothaFromTheBank]

I think this is why lotta fans don't like or respect him... Too many damn excuses for everything

 

[<<TheStandard>>]

Thanks for looking that up. But I also want it to be clear that just looking at those series w/o the odds , his teams would be the underdog more often than not.

Yeah I found that he won about as many Finals as he should have.

Looking back we can count the amount of underdogs that have won Finals over the last 15-20 years. Over the Past 15 years only 4 underdogs have won (Heat-2012, Celtics-08, Heat 06, Pistons-04).
There was never a Finals game where Lebron James team was an 11.5 point favorite over the opposition (like Lakers/Sixers game 1 & 2) so comparing Bron's Finals record to someone else's in a different circumstance truly ignores context.

 

[Saiyajin]

2007 - no shot in hell. Acceptable loss
2011 - biggest choke ever, he can never live this down ever
2012 - handle business
2013 - jesus shuttlesworth
2014 - got ran out of the gym. Coulda been up 2-0 but had his period in game 1
2015 - no shot ever got ran out of the gym
2016 - lost to a 73 win warrior team with a healthy kyrie and love

howd he get run out the gym in 2015 when he singlehandedly took it to game 6 with shumpert and dellavadova

 

[L&HH]

I'm so confused about this Rat Allen shyt. Lebron anchored that offense in the 4th, led the comeback with huge plays on both ends, and he then destroyed the Spurs in game 7 but Ray Allen deserved credit for that ring. So if you took away Lebron, they have a better chance of winNing that series than if you took away Allen?

Lebron being more impactful than Allen for 7 games matters less than the one shot that Allen hit even though Allen wouldn't have even been in that position if it hadn't been for Lenron?

People stay forgetting the 3 LeBron made before Allen's shot

 

[Standing on business]

this is a record breaking 73-9 golden state team with the best shooters in nba history, lebron is an all around great player but won't receive that much help from his big man.

All am saying you shouldn't let this series have an effect on his accomplishments