lebron did his thing even in game 6 he had some turnovers but he kept them afloat. Jesus hit that huge shot and that's all nigs remember
LeBron James has been favored to win the Finals 2 out of 6 times
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lebron did his thing even in game 6 he had some turnovers but he kept them afloat. Jesus hit that huge shot and that's all nigs remember
You right, but fk that........AINT NO PASSES
Look, you know me from way back in the day...we both stomp the same soil. You know how people in the state coddle everything about LeBron here and it's garbage, because no other athlete has been babied as much as LeBron
It's either he wins or he loses. Same way it's always been for everyone else. We got stans pulling out betting odds to have pre-prepared excuses on deck BEFORE the series even starts & then pretending like that is normal?
Let the man play the game. If he wins it's gonna be
for his legacy and the city will rejoice. If he loses, it's gonna be 
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for his legacy and the city will be let down again. BUT, that's how the game goes and always has in sports.These new dudes are now trying to cushion a loss with "but he wasn't the betting favorite tho
" need to, in the words of my breh @HARLEM AL, "get all the way the fk outta here with that"I couldn't imaging responding to a Kobe hater who says "Kobe lost in the playoffs
" with "he wasn't the favorite to win though so it doesn't matter
"........
But that's bullshyt and we all know it. Lebron was amazing for most of that 4th quarter but people act like he was stinking up the joint and owes that ring to Ray.
@Newzz
tmac lost as the favorite in the playoffs in 2007 vs Utah
carmelo lost as the favorite in 2013 vs indiana
allen iverson never lost as the favorite
Dwade lost as the favorite in 2005 vs detroit, 2007 vs the bulls, 2009 vs atlanta, 2011 vs dallas, 2016 vs the raptors
kobe lost as the favorite in 2003 vs the spurs, 2004 vs detroit, 2008 vs boston, 2011 vs dallas
lebron lost as the favorite in 2009 vs orlando, 2010 vs boston, 2011 vs dallas,
never lost as the favorite
tmac lost as the favorite in the playoffs in 2007 vs Utah
carmelo lost as the favorite in 2013 vs indiana
allen iverson never lost as the favorite
Dwade lost as the favorite in 2005 vs detroit, 2007 vs the bulls, 2009 vs atlanta, 2011 vs dallas, 2016 vs the raptors
kobe lost as the favorite in 2003 vs the spurs, 2004 vs detroit, 2008 vs boston, 2011 vs dallas
lebron lost as the favorite in 2009 vs orlando, 2010 vs boston, 2011 vs dallas,
never lost as the favoriteYou right, but fk that........AINT NO PASSES
Look, you know me from way back in the day...we both stomp the same soil. You know how people in the state coddle everything about LeBron here and it's garbage, because no other athlete has been babied as much as LeBron
It's either he wins or he loses. Same way it's always been for everyone else. We got stans pulling out betting odds to have pre-prepared excuses on deck BEFORE the series even starts & then pretending like that is normal?
Let the man play the game. If he wins it's gonna be
These new dudes are now trying to cushion a loss with "but he wasn't the betting favorite tho
I couldn't imaging responding to a Kobe hater who says "Kobe lost in the playoffs
i feel you, but Favorited media athletes will get a pass when they lose. look at the narrative being drawn up for steph after being down 3-1. you heard reports about his knee being 50% and having 10cc's of blood drained every day while he had to walk 10 miles to practice in 90 degree weather
Thankfully, LeBron even telling his stans to gtfoh with this "betting odds" trash
LeBron James: Odds mean little heading into Finals matchup vs. Warriors
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LeBron James tells reporters he's not paying attention to the Warriors being favored to win the NBA title over the Cavaliers and says Cleveland is better built to win a championship this season than last season. (0:41)
According to the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook, Golden State is a 5.5-point favorite to win Thursday's Game 1 (9 p.m. ET, ABC) and approximately a 2-to-1 favorite to capture the championship.
The odds mean little to LeBron James, however.
"Not my concern," James said Tuesday, speaking to the media for the first time since the Cavs' Finals rematch with Golden State was set. "I don't get involved in all of that -- underdog, overdog, whatever the case may be. It's stupidity."
James was confident in the Cavs' chances compared to last June when Cleveland lost Games 4, 5 and 6 and the series after being up 2-1, but he framed that confidence as nothing that warrants special attention.
"We're better built to start the Finals than we were last year," James said. "Doesn't matter who it's against. I mean, that's not a headline. It's obvious."
Instead of getting home-court advantage in the Finals, which they would have had if the Thunder had won, the Cavs will fly to California on Tuesday for the start of the series later this week against the team with the greatest regular season-record in league history (73-9).
"It didn't matter," James said. "Like Coach [Tyronn] Lue said, we're just waiting on the winner. We're fortunate to be here and we look forward to the challenge. It's an unbelievable team that we're going against. Hats off."
Kevin [Love] and Kyrie [Irving] are both healthy, the addition of Channing Frye, we're a completely different team than we were last year."
And based on Irving's response when asked about the Warriors' 34-point drubbing of his team in Cleveland on Jan. 22, the Cavs believe they are a completely different team than they were several months ago, too.
"In January?" Irving said Tuesday. "I don't remember it."
Irving said that the memory of going out with a fractured kneecap in Game 1 of last year's Finals isn't giving him any extra motivation for him this time around.
"No, the Finals are the Finals," Irving said. "Just happy that we're back here again."
James was similarly pleased to be back with a roster that is fully intact, calling it the "biggest difference for our team."
"We have another year under our belt and more chemistry, but health-wise, you know we're healthy and we're excited about the opportunity," James said.
The anticipation was palpable for a team that's waited 12 months and a city that's waited 52 years to have a chance to be crowned champions.
"I think everyone here -- everyone in the world -- knows this is what the game wanted to see," Irving said. "No. 1 and No. 1 in the Eastern Conference and Western Conference, respectively. This is what it's about, right here: top-level basketball, a lot of great players on one court at one time and two great teams just competing."
LeBron: These Cavs 'better built' for Warriors
Even LeBron called it stupidity
Get sonned by your idol brehs
LeBron James: Odds mean little heading into Finals matchup vs. Warriors
LeBron James tells reporters he's not paying attention to the Warriors being favored to win the NBA title over the Cavaliers and says Cleveland is better built to win a championship this season than last season. (0:41)
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Dave McMenaminESPN Staff Writer
Close- Cavs and NBA writer for ESPN.com
- Covered the Lakers and NBA for ESPNLosAngeles.com from 2009-14 and the NBA for NBA.com from 2005-09
- Syracuse University graduate
According to the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook, Golden State is a 5.5-point favorite to win Thursday's Game 1 (9 p.m. ET, ABC) and approximately a 2-to-1 favorite to capture the championship.
The odds mean little to LeBron James, however.
"Not my concern," James said Tuesday, speaking to the media for the first time since the Cavs' Finals rematch with Golden State was set. "I don't get involved in all of that -- underdog, overdog, whatever the case may be. It's stupidity."
James was confident in the Cavs' chances compared to last June when Cleveland lost Games 4, 5 and 6 and the series after being up 2-1, but he framed that confidence as nothing that warrants special attention.
"We're better built to start the Finals than we were last year," James said. "Doesn't matter who it's against. I mean, that's not a headline. It's obvious."
Instead of getting home-court advantage in the Finals, which they would have had if the Thunder had won, the Cavs will fly to California on Tuesday for the start of the series later this week against the team with the greatest regular season-record in league history (73-9).
"It didn't matter," James said. "Like Coach [Tyronn] Lue said, we're just waiting on the winner. We're fortunate to be here and we look forward to the challenge. It's an unbelievable team that we're going against. Hats off."
Kevin [Love] and Kyrie [Irving] are both healthy, the addition of Channing Frye, we're a completely different team than we were last year."
And based on Irving's response when asked about the Warriors' 34-point drubbing of his team in Cleveland on Jan. 22, the Cavs believe they are a completely different team than they were several months ago, too.
"In January?" Irving said Tuesday. "I don't remember it."
Irving said that the memory of going out with a fractured kneecap in Game 1 of last year's Finals isn't giving him any extra motivation for him this time around.
"No, the Finals are the Finals," Irving said. "Just happy that we're back here again."
James was similarly pleased to be back with a roster that is fully intact, calling it the "biggest difference for our team."
"We have another year under our belt and more chemistry, but health-wise, you know we're healthy and we're excited about the opportunity," James said.
The anticipation was palpable for a team that's waited 12 months and a city that's waited 52 years to have a chance to be crowned champions.
"I think everyone here -- everyone in the world -- knows this is what the game wanted to see," Irving said. "No. 1 and No. 1 in the Eastern Conference and Western Conference, respectively. This is what it's about, right here: top-level basketball, a lot of great players on one court at one time and two great teams just competing."
LeBron: These Cavs 'better built' for Warriors
Even LeBron called it stupidity
Get sonned by your idol brehs
OfTheCross
Veteran
Thankfully, LeBron even telling his stans to gtfoh with this "betting odds" trash
LeBron James: Odds mean little heading into Finals matchup vs. Warriors
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LeBron James tells reporters he's not paying attention to the Warriors being favored to win the NBA title over the Cavaliers and says Cleveland is better built to win a championship this season than last season. (0:41)
INDEPENDENCE, Ohio -- It didn't take long after the Golden State Warriors beat the Oklahoma City Thunder in the Western Conference finals for various sports books to dub the Warriors the significant title favorites over the Cleveland Cavaliers in the NBA Finals.
Dave McMenaminESPN Staff Writer
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- Cavs and NBA writer for ESPN.com
- Covered the Lakers and NBA for ESPNLosAngeles.com from 2009-14 and the NBA for NBA.com from 2005-09
- Syracuse University graduate
According to the Westgate Las Vegas SuperBook, Golden State is a 5.5-point favorite to win Thursday's Game 1 (9 p.m. ET, ABC) and approximately a 2-to-1 favorite to capture the championship.
The odds mean little to LeBron James, however.
"Not my concern," James said Tuesday, speaking to the media for the first time since the Cavs' Finals rematch with Golden State was set. "I don't get involved in all of that -- underdog, overdog, whatever the case may be. It's stupidity."
James was confident in the Cavs' chances compared to last June when Cleveland lost Games 4, 5 and 6 and the series after being up 2-1, but he framed that confidence as nothing that warrants special attention.
"We're better built to start the Finals than we were last year," James said. "Doesn't matter who it's against. I mean, that's not a headline. It's obvious."
Instead of getting home-court advantage in the Finals, which they would have had if the Thunder had won, the Cavs will fly to California on Tuesday for the start of the series later this week against the team with the greatest regular season-record in league history (73-9).
"It didn't matter," James said. "Like Coach [Tyronn] Lue said, we're just waiting on the winner. We're fortunate to be here and we look forward to the challenge. It's an unbelievable team that we're going against. Hats off."
Kevin [Love] and Kyrie [Irving] are both healthy, the addition of Channing Frye, we're a completely different team than we were last year."
And based on Irving's response when asked about the Warriors' 34-point drubbing of his team in Cleveland on Jan. 22, the Cavs believe they are a completely different team than they were several months ago, too.
"In January?" Irving said Tuesday. "I don't remember it."
Irving said that the memory of going out with a fractured kneecap in Game 1 of last year's Finals isn't giving him any extra motivation for him this time around.
"No, the Finals are the Finals," Irving said. "Just happy that we're back here again."
James was similarly pleased to be back with a roster that is fully intact, calling it the "biggest difference for our team."
"We have another year under our belt and more chemistry, but health-wise, you know we're healthy and we're excited about the opportunity," James said.
The anticipation was palpable for a team that's waited 12 months and a city that's waited 52 years to have a chance to be crowned champions.
"I think everyone here -- everyone in the world -- knows this is what the game wanted to see," Irving said. "No. 1 and No. 1 in the Eastern Conference and Western Conference, respectively. This is what it's about, right here: top-level basketball, a lot of great players on one court at one time and two great teams just competing."
LeBron: These Cavs 'better built' for Warriors
Even LeBron called it stupidity
Get sonned by your idol brehs
Why would players care about odds bruh? That's something fans care about.
Either way... His record ain't bad considering the teams he's had vs. the teams he's faced
Ideally GSW and Cleveland would somehow both lose this year
Why would I be?
Do you know how many times Tracy McGrady has lost in the playoffs when he was the favorite or underdog?
Do you know how many times Carmelo Anthony has lost in the playoffs when he was the favorite or underdog?
Do you know how many times Allen Iverson has lost in the playoffs when he was the favorite or underdog?
Do you know how many times Dwyane Wade has lost in the playoffs when he was the favorite or underdog?
Do you know how many times Kobe Bryant has lost in the playoffs when he was the favorite or underdog?
No right? So, why are we starting up a NEW talking point exclusively for LeBron talking about "bu-bu-but, he wasn't the favorite to win looking at the betting odds"
Yall can get outta here with these brand new excuses
I'm not taking about Lebron, you said in any sport.
For arguments sake, let's say the Patriots are a 14 point favourite against the Jets and the Patriots wash them, are we gonna say the Jets should have won?
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So we're just ignoring all context here? Just ignoring everything but the result?@Newzz
tmac lost as the favorite in the playoffs in 2007 vs Utah
carmelo lost as the favorite in 2013 vs indiana
allen iverson never lost as the favorite
Dwade lost as the favorite in 2005 vs detroit, 2007 vs the bulls, 2009 vs atlanta, 2011 vs dallas, 2016 vs the raptors
kobe lost as the favorite in 2003 vs the spurs, 2004 vs detroit, 2008 vs boston, 2011 vs dallas
lebron lost as the favorite in 2009 vs orlando, 2010 vs boston, 2011 vs dallas,
We've never had a sports discussion on here in the past about players getting passes for losing because they were the underdog. It's stupid like LeBron said and is only being talked about because LeBron fans are looking for a reason to
before the series even starts.Me: "Buffalo Bills lost 4 Super Bowls in a row
Couldn't get the job done over 4 attempts"2016 LeBron stans: "The Buffalo Bills were only favored in the 1st SB
The other 3, they lost as the underdogs....so it doesn't count"His record is bad...just like Wilt Chamberlain's was bad.
Both of them have a 2-4 record in the NBA Finals, but I have yet to hear someone say "but Wilt wasn't the favorite to win the Championship" breh
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LeBron stans, LeBron stans, LeBron stans
Funny, because I just posted this above.....and you go ahead and prove me right
We've never had a sports discussion on here in the past about players getting passes for losing because they were the underdog. It's stupid like LeBron said and is only being talked about because LeBron fans are looking for a reason to
Me: "Buffalo Bills lost 4 Super Bowls in a row
2016 LeBron stans: "The Buffalo Bills were only favored in the 1st SB
"Bu-bu-but Buffalo wasn't the betting odds favorite
. Who cares they lost 4 SBs in a row"
LeBron stans, LeBron stans, LeBron stans
Funny, because I just posted this above.....and you go ahead and prove me right
"Bu-bu-but Buffalo wasn't the betting odds favorite
Who's talking about excuses?
I'm no LeBron stan, but the Warriors will probably win and if they do it's because they're the better team not because of what LeBron does or doesn't do.
OfTheCross
Veteran
We've never had a sports discussion on here in the past about players getting passes for losing because they were the underdog. It's stupid like LeBron said and is only being talked about because LeBron fans are looking for a reason to
Me: "Buffalo Bills lost 4 Super Bowls in a row
2016 LeBron stans: "The Buffalo Bills were only favored in the 1st SB
His record is bad...just like Wilt Chamberlain's was bad.
Both of them have a 2-4 record in the NBA Finals, but I have yet to hear someone say "but Wilt wasn't the favorite to win the Championship" breh
This site didn't exist when the Bills were losing 4 straight.
And there aren't many players that demand the attention of LBJ for this to even be a discussion.
You're acting as if Wilt, Jerry West and Jim Kelly are current topics in sports.
i'm not ignoring anything just stating what's truth.