Lazy IT nikkas who sit on they ass all day deserve 25h and 50k a year, but a fast food worker

[↓R↑LYB]

First for all we are a satellite company...so our model of business is different from your average network environment.

We manage Satellite gateways....The way these gateways are deployed it has to be configured from a ground up and you have to place them in places where the US government has given you license to operate because of beam/spectrum issues.

Usually per sat gateway it's 4 ASR Cisco routers and a few 4500/4500x switches connecting to the SAT equipments (2 doing strictly NAT/IPv6 ) and 2 Peering doing multi-home BGP with various ISP's(multiple stat terminals connect to this)

The SAT equipment runs mainly unix/linux(that's when my programming skills come in because everything is heavily scripted using bash, php, perl, with a little bit of python ).

We don't only deploy Sat internet for home users/companies we also sell Cisco UCM (that's when my voice skills ) come in.

This year alone we built 15 gateways from the ground up after we got the beam/spectrum license and deployed hundreds of cisco callmanger 7-9 for customers.

Based on what I have typed the company I work for should be obvious to you...since there are only few satellite internet providers in the country.

user-PC--(sat-terminal)-----(sat in the sky!)-----(ground gateway)------(ASR routers)----internet

Basic flow of traffic for a user who buys our terminal for internet.
Anyone with at least a CCNP/CCIE and a wiliness to learn Linux/callmanager should thrive here.

Of those various segments, what do you actually manage? Are you configuring the Linux/Unix satellite equipment, configuring and deploying the switches, configuring the L3 devices and routing protocols (peering, route reflectors, ACL's, etc), and deploying the UCM's? Are you doing all of it, some of it, or part of it? Are you pre production and doing the base configs, then handing it off to another team to manage once it's in prod?

What's going on breh? The service providers I've worked at in the past never allowed one group to handle so many parts of the deployment. 1) it was too much work and 2) it was too much risk.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

Nah, I agree with you on that, but I never said IT dudes were lazy though, that wasn't my argument. I'm just saying EVERYBODY is getting yelled at when they fukk up unless they're at the very top.

You still get yelled at even if you're at the top. If you're public company and have an outage that fukks up your forecasts, the board and shareholders is gonna get in your ass. If you're private and fukk up, your clients are gonna get in your ass. If you director, VP, or C level and your team fukks up you CEO/President is gonna get in your ass.

Basically no matter what you do, you're a$$hole's getting blown out

 

[BrothaZay]

the board and shareholders is gonna get in your ass. If you're private and fukk up, your clients are gonna get in your ass. If you director, VP, or C level and your team fukks up you CEO/President is gonna get in your ass.

Basically no matter what you do, you're @sshole's getting blown out

 

[JLova]

IT nikkaz always arguing with each other. Who does more, who makes more, who has more responsibility, etc....

 

[Chris.B]

Of those various segments, what do you actually manage? Are you configuring the Linux/Unix satellite equipment, configuring and deploying the switches, configuring the L3 devices and routing protocols (peering, route reflectors, ACL's, etc), and deploying the UCM's? Are you doing all of it, some of it, or part of it? Are you pre production and doing the base configs, then handing it off to another team to manage once it's in prod?

What's going on breh? The service providers I've worked at in the past never allowed one group to handle so many parts of the deployment. 1) it was too much work and 2) it was too much risk.

Well I can't speak for the companies you have worked for...But we build the networks from the ground up and maintain for at least 2 months with no major issues before it's handed to a lower level team in the company (only time we come in again is if the network is "on fire").

The voice comes in when a company in the middle of nowhere in America want's a voice infrastructure in addition to sat internet.

The Satellite ISP model is different from your traditional ISP's because we don't have all equipment in one place...It's impossible. It has to be spread across beams/spectrum.


I personally configure the routers, switches and only do scripting and the voice. It's not that hard like you think....it's just a lot of hard work to get it up but once it's up and running 70% of the time it's smooth sailing.

We have months to test this stuff before we ship.

 

[↓R↑LYB]

IT nikkaz always arguing with each other. Who does more, who makes more, who has more responsibility, etc....

Ain't nobody on here even bring up salary breh. Besides, ain't nobody making more than @The Nigerian

http://www.mollywatr.com/product/mollywatr

$1500 for some watr breh

For those prices you'd think he'd throw the "e" in for free

 

[SemiEnlightenedBum]

i trippeth off this logic as well,crazy how these crumbs bytch all day about their jobs&how hard they work when they literally do nothing but sit on their arse and type all day and brag/complain about how hard they work when they literally almost do nothing..

yet,i know many blue collar laborers who do backbreaking physical work and utter nare a complaint,guess they too tired from actually sweating to bytch..

contradictions..

 

[Doin2Much Williams]

I tell nikkaz all the time, you can eat that way too, but gotta get that education and knowledge to do so.

One thing about IT nikkaz though is that when some shyt breaks or goes down, guess who has to fix that shyt regardless of the time of day. You eat good when aint shyt poppin, but the minute some fukk shyt goes down, IT gets ALL THE BLAME AND YELLING.

I think even minimal skill jobs like fast food cats deserve a living wage, but you can't be out here reckless with a ton of kids and buying tons of Michael Kores bags

 

[hood b. goode]

The weak weed themselves out.

While all these 29 year old fast food makers trippin...what were you doing back in high school

IT nikka was working 3/4 years in college. long hours at their craft...you was on your couch smokin weed and Xbox Live subscribing

It never fails. People at walmart trying to complain about higher pay, same dudes who skipped class and said "school aint for me" translation: you lazy

You can work yourself to death flipping burgers. I could train a monkey to flip burgers. Can a monkey graduate with a degree in IT? naw.

If anyone off the street could do your job, you don't deserve the bread you want. Go back to school.

 

[Yakno1]

You don't need a government to prevent a monopoly. There are no monopolies in a free market.

Bullshyt dawg

 

[WheresWallace]

We Should expect them to do their jobs now. - or figure out something else to do.... there are others that will try harder, and cleaner.

I'm a firm believer in trying ur best regardless of what your doing.... It's not like u deserve 25.hr for barely passing HS and not being as connected and educated as a person who is a .........

Nurse, teacher, data developer, building manager, etc.

Tru.

 

[Blackking]

well, you know....

if ur something else then


But if your black........... You see wtf our people have went through, even the c00n sambo yesiri boss sellouts back in the day had to struggle.

With the current state of black americans and our position in society... How in the hell are u not working ur ass off to prosper beyond limited exceptions?. .. That's really should be considered some c00n shyt.

 

[Torrential]

@BrothaZay

 

[Wild self]

The weak weed themselves out.

While all these 29 year old fast food makers trippin...what were you doing back in high school

IT nikka was working 3/4 years in college. long hours at their craft...you was on your couch smokin weed and Xbox Live subscribing

It never fails. People at walmart trying to complain about higher pay, same dudes who skipped class and said "school aint for me" translation: you lazy

You can work yourself to death flipping burgers. I could train a monkey to flip burgers. Can a monkey graduate with a degree in IT? naw.

If anyone off the street could do your job, you don't deserve the bread you want. Go back to school.

There are not enough jobs like that. The US needs a diverse economy where people of all different skills and strengths can prosper. Not just the rigid hard sciences where only a few people are gifted.

 

[unit321]

on their feet all day deserve mim wage

u coli nikkas i swear

Yeah, I don't want to be Captain Obvious but, I went to college for years, studied, took tests, and paid the schools their money. A McDonald's worker prerequisite for employment is being able to speak English, read numbers and use a cash register. Big difference.