Lawrence Otis Graham, Best Selling Author of Our Kind of People, dies at 58

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RIP. His work will be missed.

 

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Lol. Why should Heteros have all the fun?



What movie was this from?

I just know they inserted that story line after he died. They probably rejoiced after they heard the news of his passing.

The picture is from Self Made. That was the relationship they shoe horned into the storyline. You actually corrected us when we cried foul about it being in that script. You explained that It wasn't quite the reach I thought it was.

But THIS shyt right here? THIS shyt, THIS shyt right here?

Hollywood operates under their own set of rules, so to be honest I think they did see him passing as a positive, and that it gave them free reign to do anything they wanted with the story.

People behind the show are clowns.

I looked it up, and there are a handful of tv shows about old money, establishment, or affluent Black families on the air at the moment. This is going to be just another one added to the heap.
If they were just going to make a generic soap opera, they could have done it without associating with LOG or his book.

 

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Rappers and athletes don't form part of my thinking when dealing with issues affecting the collective racial consciousness of black people.



However, I've spent too much time watching sports documentaries over the years. The common theme, whether football or basketball is always:

single mom rearing a broken family, white coach/scout plays father figure role and disciplinarian and young black boy accepts white men as the authority in life, he gets recruited by a white college coach who replaces his high school white coach as his new daddy and by the time he gets to the pros, all good things that have happened in his life have been the result of white agents, white scouts, white coaches, white physios, white NCAA officials etc etc

So to turn around and label an athlete that black men did not raise or nurture as a "c00n" would be like a dadbeat who didn't give a damn about his kids calling them "spoilt brats" when they're older.

Rappers tend to follow a similar path, some jew gave them their first major cheque, another white boy handles their accounting etc

I can't argue with this.

Never thought about it this way.

But I think if there is a 'nurture' argument to be had of entertainers, one could be equally applied to this set as well.

 

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Still A Brother: Inside the Negro Middle Class



It's a long video but is OKOP in a nutshell.

- Debutante Cotillions
- The Girlfriends
- John Johnson
- Earl dikkerson
- Collier Heights
- Westchester Co., NY
- Oak Bluffs
- Percy Julian
- St. Clare Drake
- Howard University
- Omega Psi Phi
- Episcopal Church


Some of it is very cringe. For the first time, I can see why some black folks have reservations about this group. There was certainly a real element of detachment among some members of the OKOP set and the broader black largesse. I've personally observed the shockingly large social gulf between upper class blacks and the larger black underclass, but I've never heard anyone talk about it, where they do so in this film so candidly and even go on to say that they identify more with whites....basically the charge that many "boule haters", especially on this site, have levied against them.

Can definitely see why black folk side eye this group. And dude at 22min did keep it real..no bsing with how he felt

 

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Hawaii Five-0‘s Lance Gross has joined the cast of Fox’s Our Kind of People as a series regular. The upcoming drama comes from writer/executive producer Karin Gist and executive producer Lee Daniels and stars Yaya DaCosta, Morris Chestnut and LeToya Luckett
Gross joins the series as Tyrique Freeman, a smooth, handsome man with an edge, who was born into modest circumstances but made a fortune in construction and has gained acceptance in The Bluffs

 

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Latoya thought it was one way..

Spoiler

Until she found out she wasn't "our kind of people" material.

Ellis will play Leah Franklin-Dupont, replacing LeToya Luckett who had been originally cast in the role. The decision was made following the table read on the project as the character is being tweaked. This is a normal occurrence in the development process as the table read is the first time all the characters — and their interactions — come to life following the casting procedures.

They saying when she went in to do the table reading, she wasn't exactly the right fit.

 

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Latoya thought it was one way..

Spoiler

Until she found out she wasn't "our kind of people" material.



They saying when she went in to do the table reading, she wasn't exactly the right fit.

Wow, I feel sorry for her. This has to be one of the first times I've heard about this type of thing happening.

Spoiler: .......but....

But did she really expect them to keep on an actress for this role who wrote that "I'd been casted"?

*Gif comes an introduction for a book promo lecture. This was LOG's reaction to the guy introducing him mispronouncing Greenwich.

Spoiler

Seriously

 

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Ironically, many of these families who had members that passed for white, those members ended up worse off in life. They did all that thinking that life would be easier, thinking that the grass was would be greener. Some of them, it turns out, ain't even have grass.

Years later when Melissa's mother tracked down one of her aunt's that was passing, she found her living in a trailer park.

She reunited her aunt with her mother. If I remember correctly, it was really awkward. Her wealthy and sophisticated black mother had nothing in common with her white passing trailer park living sister.

Sad to see.

Edit:

Sylvia Rhone is one of the few that I've heard that had white passing family members who actually did well.





This is her aunt.,whom Lawrence Otis Graham outed as living in the Upper East Side and passing for white in his book. She was at the time a big time Upper East Side socialite. Nobody knew she was black apparently. Anyway, I had no idea until now that her aunt did all of this black stuff.







Let me see if I can find her aunt.

Edit 3: Here she is, Alice Mason.

They just released a podcast series about Harry Pace, one of John H. Johnson's mentors




The Vanishing of Harry Pace- 6 part podcast series


episode 3 covers the direct topic

Black No More, White No More.


We follow Harry's grandkids and great grandkids as they grapple with his legacy in their own lives

 

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They just released a podcast series about Harry Pace, one of John H. Johnson's mentors




The Vanishing of Harry Pace- 6 part podcast series


episode 3 covers the direct topic

Harry Pace left Chicago and passed for white in River Forest, which is the town I grew up in-hehe. He was, as far as we know, the first black to ‘integrate’ our suburb. It’s still around 95% white. The chemist Percy Julian was the first to integrate Oak Park, our neighboring sister suburb. The general area is called Oak Park - River Forest or OPRF. Back in the day they were high snooty and although very expensive now, are generally seen as the most liberal and diverse of Chicago suburbs.

Midian Bousfield, whom I spotlighted in the ‘most powerful’ thread took over Supreme Life after Harry Pace ‘disappeared’, although they all knew what he was doing.

Harry Pace was one of the ‘society’ men that John Johnson had in his back pocket, along with Midian Bousfield and Earl dikkerson.

 

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Harry Pace left Chicago and passed for white in River Forest, which is the town I grew up in-hehe. He was, as far as we know, the first black to ‘integrate’ our suburb. It’s still around 95% white. The chemist Percy Julian was the first to integrate Oak Park, our neighboring sister suburb. The general area is called Oak Park - River Forest or OPRF. Back in the day they were high snooty and although very expensive now, are generally seen as the most liberal and diverse of Chicago suburbs.

Midian Bousfield, whom I spotlighted in the ‘most powerful’ thread took over Supreme Life after Harry Pace ‘disappeared’, although they all knew what he was doing.

Harry Pace was one of the ‘society’ men that John Johnson had in his back pocket, along with Midian Bousfield and Earl dikkerson.

If you google Bousfield, your post about him in that thread is one of the first entries that pop up.

Will finish the podcast series this weekend. Pace's story was complex to say the least. They actually use bits of the Johnson interview posted above in the second episode of the podcast.

When visibly/acknowledged Blacks moved into River Forest, was there as violent a response as what occurred with Julian in Oak Park?

 

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The ‘set’ doesn’t even look like Martha’s Vineyard.

House and cars looks like it’s more appropriate for a place like Potomac.

 

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Latoya thought it was one way..

Spoiler

Until she found out she wasn't "our kind of people" material.



They saying when she went in to do the table reading, she wasn't exactly the right fit.

Lee Daniels about to turn your people into low frequency trash. There will be downlow nikkas, affairs, nikkas bleaching their skin etc.

 

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Lee Daniels about to turn your people into low frequency trash. There will be downlow nikkas, affairs, nikkas bleaching their skin etc.

Brown will play Lauren Dupont, Leah (Luckett) and Raymond’s (Chestnut) daughter, a beautiful and ultra-privileged girl who rules the young social set of The Bluffs and is an established social media influencer. She takes an instant dislike to Angela’s (DaCosta) daughter Nikki (Bright), who has the audacity to call her out for her public rudeness. However, behind the scenes, she is trying to come to terms with her identity as a queer woman of color in her conservative community, and when Nikki discovers her secret, Lauren’s antipathy for the newcomer grows.

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The ‘set’ doesn’t even look like Martha’s Vineyard.

House and cars looks like it’s more appropriate for a place like Potomac.

Looks like a parody skit from a comedy show.

 

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That was my last time on the Vineyard. We got tickets to the MV African American Film Fest .