Lawrence Otis Graham, Best Selling Author of Our Kind of People, dies at 58

[saturn7]

This bullshyt from Lee Daniels.

nikkas love fantasy.

 

[invalid]

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when the actors cracked open LOG’s book and read...

Bryant Gumbel is, but Bill Cosby isn’t. Lena Horne is, but Whitney Houston isn’t. Andrew Young is, but Jesse Jackson isn’t. And neither is Maya Angelou, Alice Walker, Clarence Thomas, or Quincy Jones. And, even though both of them try extremely hard, neither Diana Ross nor Robin Givens will ever be.

LOG really chose violence with that opening.

I can imagine the actors saying to themselves...yeah it’s payback time, we really about to fukk their image up.

The host in the video ask Chestnut what did they do to balance out the image of the communities and organizations spotlighted in the book because there are a lot of feelings and opinions, especially on the negative side, about them, and although maybe justified, what have they done to counter some of those perceptions to show the positive sides that uplift the community.

Chestnut basically responded with a

“..we need to have these difficult conversations.”

Besides that, the interview was rather uninteresting.

OAN, apparently the opening premiere ratings were dismal. Not sure what that means yet.

 

[get these nets]

quote taken from AMPBF thread

she’s the norm. all of these men and women, if you ask them what’s most important to them, and if you look at their life’s work for evidence, it will be community upliftment.

with respect to the men, like her father, most of the men in the chicago boule own their own businesses or practices, and operate entirely on the south side. not corporate men or ‘gatekeepers’ to white corporations that you like to assume.

could be you one day, if you decide to open your own law practice on the south side.

What you're up against here is something people have been trying to run for years. And it ties into the link you had up to story of confused young members of that set bringing Freaknik/Kappa Beach Party to the Vineyard. They succumbed to the Psych Out game that dudes are trying to run here.

Your fellow Chicagoan showed the full Psych Out game, and its motivation in the spoiler. His example covered competing actors, but it's all the same game.

Spoiler: Westside

I've seen it play out in front of my eyes.

 

[EBK String]

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when the actors cracked open LOG’s book and read...



LOG really chose violence with that opening.

I can imagine the actors saying to themselves...yeah it’s payback time, we really about to fukk their image up.

The host in the video ask Chestnut what did they do to balance out the image of the communities and organizations spotlighted in the book because there are a lot of feelings and opinions, especially on the negative side, about them, and although maybe justified, what have they done to counter some of those perceptions to show the positive sides that uplift the community.

Chestnut basically responded with a

“..we need to have these difficult conversations.”

Besides that, the interview was rather uninteresting.

OAN, apparently the opening premiere ratings were dismal. Not sure what that means yet.

You dont think a group that denies talented, brilliant and successful people for arbitrary and petty shyt is a positive for the race? That's why you hold no weight in 2021.

That dumb shyt is why monarchy's are full of ugly ass crazy and dumb people. They don't allow new blood and inbreeding amongst their own.

 

[get these nets]

I would have loved to be a fly on the wall when the actors cracked open LOG’s book and read...



LOG really chose violence with that opening.

I can imagine the actors saying to themselves...yeah it’s payback time, we really about to fukk their image up.

The host in the video ask Chestnut what did they do to balance out the image of the communities and organizations spotlighted in the book because there are a lot of feelings and opinions, especially on the negative side, about them, and although maybe justified, what have they done to counter some of those perceptions to show the positive sides that uplift the community.

Chestnut basically responded with a

“..we need to have these difficult conversations.”

Besides that, the interview was rather uninteresting.

Yeah, it was underwhelming.
Daniels and Gist would have been grilled if they were the guests.
Fox used it as part of their promo run, so they sent a pretty face to appease the female festival attendees. (And perhaps some of the males) Hey you did liken that MV art community to the Harlem Renaissance.
*just jokes
The interviewer seemed to be someone who signed up to do it when she found out who they were sending.


In his heyday Morris Chestnut appeared in several projects with great looking casts, upwardly mobile characters and average storylines. He ate well after the success of The Best Man, and Hollywood greenlit a stream of films to cash in on that hype. Then, as now, the hook was that Black audiences wanted to see those people on screen and would show up on opening weekend. Whether the project was good or bad.

As you said earlier about The Wedding miniseries

However, I thought in many instances it was buffoonery wrapped in a nice slick bow. Lots of moments where you're like wtf?

OKOP series was rushed also. Got green light about a month after LOG passed away. Probably began filming shortly after. Script is so far removed from the book that the actors were probably advised to not read it. *Joe Morton has surely read it though.

Graham did open with violence, though. He was a very good writer. And very media savvy. He got a lot of publicity with those opening lines.

He was also very candid. Rest of the opening has him using his grandmother's words to him to air out negative views represented by segments of the circles the book is about. I actually didn't remember that part, but it's there.He tried to give a 3 dimensional view of those communities, as he saw it.

OAN, apparently the opening premiere ratings were dismal. Not sure what that means yet.

Might mean that OKOP gets cancelled ASAP.....hehehehege

If tonight's ratings are lower than the debut, the clock is ticking and I might create a poll thread

 

[invalid]

Fox used it as part of their promo run, so they sent a pretty face to appease the female festival attendees. (And perhaps some of the males) Hey you did liken that MV art community to the Harlem Renaissance.
*just jokes

Not jokes. Oak Bluffs also attracts the black gay bourgeoisie, too. They come to the island en-masse from DC and Atlanta brunching trying to snag elite bachelors and married undercover men alike.

In his heyday Morris Chestnut appeared in several projects with great looking casts, upwardly mobile characters and average storylines. He ate well after the success of The Best Man, and Hollywood greenlit a stream of films to cash in on that hype. Then, as now, the hook was that Black audiences wanted to see those people on screen and would show up on opening weekend. Whether the project was good or bad.

From looking at comments, apparently this what the show devolves into, all image, no substance.

OKOP series was rushed also. Got green light about a month after LOG passed away. Probably began filming shortly after. Script is so far removed from the book that the actors were probably advised to not read it. *Joe Morton has surely read it though.

People are saying the writing is rushed and the acting is bad. Saying that it’s not even a Lee Daniels production but feels Tyler Perryish.

Might mean that OKOP gets cancelled ASAP.....hehehehege

If tonight's ratings are lower than the debut, the clock is ticking and I might create a poll thread

Start that thread! Viewers are predicting that the show will be canceled mid-season, it’s that bad.

They should not have adapted OKOP for this type of tv show. Nothing good comes from it. The writing is dumb and predictable, the images come off as nouveau riche instead of quiet money.

I think black people are getting tired of shows that are catered to them where the writing is dumb down. They’re yearning for shows with smart writing.

I think a better book that could have been adapted that keeps all of the themes of OKOP but is smartly written is The Emperor of Ocean Park. That would’ve been a good book adapted for tv.

 

[KingFreeman]

Saw the first couple minutes, immediately peeped the "do bad by myself" baby mother materialistic stereotype that had been getting pushed on the women the last two decades.

Nothing like the source material, writing trash, deserved better talent.

Maybe I'll finish it at somebody else's place, but I'm too old for PsyOps

 

[get these nets]

Only the most famous black film festival in the country.

This is where stuff gets green lit for Netflix, Amazon, and HBO.

This is old news to you, but I think others would enjoy. Excellent article about the history of the festival. And the 20th anniversary.

 

[get these nets]

One year later.

Wow, different studios held options for the projects for years. Paid LOG hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of dollars for the rights to develop.
And the end result was a flop tv series that ran for 12 episodes.

 

[Ol’Otis]

I hate these type of shows
They’re never accurate

 

[mson]

I hate these type of shows
They’re never accurate

In terms of what?

 

[invalid]

This is old news to you, but I think others would enjoy. Excellent article about the history of the festival. And the 20th anniversary.

Good write up.

Everybody is there right now. My whole TL is Vineyard stuff.

I saw photos of a documentary that was shown at the Film Fest. Looked interesting.

It was about Loudoun County Virginia and it being a place where blacks are exercising power and privilege. You typically only hear about PG County. Will try to find and post.

 

[Ol’Otis]

In terms of what?

The ‘set’ doesn’t even look like Martha’s Vineyard.

House and cars looks like it’s more appropriate for a place like Potomac.

 

[DrBanneker]

Good write up.

Everybody is there right now. My whole TL is Vineyard stuff.

I saw photos of a documentary that was shown at the Film Fest. Looked interesting.

It was about Loudoun County Virginia and it being a place where blacks are exercising power and privilege. You typically only hear about PG County. Will try to find and post.

Send me a link if you find it. That would be interesting to see since I am surprised. Loudoun County has rich Blacks for sure but Loudoun is known as one of the least Black counties in the DMV. PG and Charles are majority Black with concentrated upper middle class Black communities which is why they get the press. Even majority non-Black Montgomery has places like Silver Spring etc. with a concentration of Black folks.

If you were to say affluent Blacks and Virginia my first thought would be Prince William County or even Stafford before Loudoun.

 

[DrBanneker]

Everybody is there right now. My whole TL is Vineyard stuff.

Yeah I got friends up there now too who spend latter August there every year. Luckily I was able to visit MV with them a couple years before COVID; fun times. It was crazy though how far you have to book everything, especially the ferry, in advance.