Lawrence Otis Graham, Best Selling Author of Our Kind of People, dies at 58

[get these nets]

They cast two very good looking people.

Now, Let's take bets on what super high achieving backstory they are going to have to write for Morris Chestnut.

I say medicine. Dean of a top Medical School

*hehe

 

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They cast two very good looking people.

Now, Let's take bets on what super high achieving backstory they are going to have to write for Morris Chestnut.

I say medicine. Dean of a top Medical School

*hehe

Breh, I saw a comment on one of the private Facebook black Martha's Vineyard group where they were discussing the tv show.

Somebody was like "good luck coming to Oak Bluffs trying to peddle natural hair products to the negroes that already have naturally "good hair"....clearly the writers don't know their subjects."

Bruh, I died.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

The actual "Soul" episodes are on Prime Video if anybody wants to watch. I watched a couple of episodes sometime last year. Its a good ground breaking show but its a tad on the boring side tbh

Thanks for this. I watched an episode about 8 yrs ago or so that Farrakhan was on back in the 70s. Im a huge history buff so I would love to view the rest of the series.

 

[get these nets]

Breh, I saw a comment on one of the private Facebook black Martha's Vineyard group where they were discussing the tv show.

Somebody was like "good luck coming to Oak Bluffs trying to peddle natural hair products to the negroes that already have naturally "good hair"....clearly the writers don't know their subjects."

Bruh, I died.

WAIT, WHAT!!!!???

Don't know if you've been following the Kwame Brown story.
But he's been throwing Matt Barnes under the bus, and calling him
"Becky with the good hair"

Reading what you read in that FB group, I think Morris Chestnut character is gonna have to be Surgeon General or some shyt.

 

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WAIT, WHAT!!!!???

Don't know if you've been following the Kwame Brown story.
But he's been throwing Matt Barnes under the bus, and calling him
"Becky with the good hair"

Reading what you read in that FB group, I think Morris Chestnut character is gonna have to be Surgeon General or some shyt.

Exactly.
Yeah, I've been following it.

I'm not sure about Morris.

He ain't no Blair Underwood. Blair would be the perfect surgeon general Oak Bluffs patriarch.

Morris is an MD or maybe Wall Street Attorney.

 

[pete clemenza]

WAIT, WHAT!!!!???

Don't know if you've been following the Kwame Brown story.
But he's been throwing Matt Barnes under the bus, and calling him
"Becky with the good hair"

Reading what you read in that FB group, I think Morris Chestnut character is gonna have to be Surgeon General or some shyt.

The funny thing is Kwame keeps ranting to Matt Barnes that doesn't use his lightskinned-ness the right way. "Too busy trying to hang with Stephen Jax tryin' to be a thug"

 

[get these nets]

The funny thing is Kwame keeps ranting to Matt Barnes that doesn't use his lightskinned-ness the right way. "Too busy trying to hang with Stephen Jax tryin' to be a thug"

I gotta sit down and listen to all of his videos.

 

[IllmaticDelta]

Breh, I saw a comment on one of the private Facebook black Martha's Vineyard group where they were discussing the tv show.

Somebody was like "good luck coming to Oak Bluffs trying to peddle natural hair products to the negroes that already have naturally "good hair"....clearly the writers don't know their subjects."

Bruh, I died.

 

[Mtt]

WAIT, WHAT!!!!???

Don't know if you've been following the Kwame Brown story.
But he's been throwing Matt Barnes under the bus, and calling him
"Becky with the good hair"

Reading what you read in that FB group, I think Morris Chestnut character is gonna have to be Surgeon General or some shyt.

I see where your going but for the most part,
There's some misconception on the Matt Barnes type or (look) with that (particular) insulated high class group. The particular group would not (generally)accept athletes , entertainers, even if your a doctor and lightskin . they have their own criteria family such as family name, pedigree,who you associated with etc..yes the other factors(complexion ,job do play factor but it's not the absolute rule that makes folks qualify) .

Now the mass general (well to do) black folks have more wiggle room for anyone with high reward income. The Kevin Samuel definition of high value male more falls in line with the general successful public. The Our Kind Of People book have their own rules.

On a side note, slightly off topic.....

Spike Lee wife went outside the group to date Spike Lee, the They also don't do the spotlight media thing.
Darryl M. Bell who is from that lineage step outside that circle to do his own thing but unfortunately it ultimately backfired financially. Darryl who played in Different World tv show choose the acting tv route and his dad was a big wall street tyc00n when he died of heart attack . Darryl allegedly squandered the money and his own family sued him. Darryl didn't followed his dad's path who owned a securities firm.

 

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Spike Lee wife went outside the group to date Spike Lee, the They also don't do the spotlight media thing.
Darryl M. Bell who is from that lineage step outside that circle to do his own thing but unfortunately it ultimately backfired financially. Darryl who played in Different World tv show choose the acting tv route and his dad was a big wall street tyc00n when he died of heart attack . Darryl allegedly squandered the money and his own family sued him. Darryl didn't followed his dad's path who owned a securities firm.

Eh, it's a bit more complicated...

Spike wasn't really outside the lineage. Spike was a Morehouse graduate. His father was a Morehouse graduate. And his mother was a graduate of Spelman. His grandfather was a Morehouse graduate. And his great grandfather graduated from Tuskegee. Spike is three generations Morehouse.

Darryl's father Travers may have eventually moved into those circles in New York. But he was born in the projects in Chicago and certainly didn't come from the Chicago crowd.

 

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Now the mass general (well to do) black folks have more wiggle room for anyone with high reward income. The Kevin Samuel definition of high value male more falls in line with the general successful public. The Our Kind Of People book have their own rules.

Yeah, I agree with this.

The OKOP type man is marrying a woman, not for her beauty per KS, but for her social currency. It's pretty well known, especially for men trying to maneuver into that set, but it's typically their wives that cement their social status. People like Vernon Jordan or Bill Cosby, for example. A woman with a legacy >>> a woman with just good looks. And in the OKOP crowd, good genes will most likely come with the legacy.

Kinda why I started this series:

https://www.thecoli.com/threads/wife-smash-or-pass-bap-edition-vol-1.730689/

 

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Still A Brother: Inside the Negro Middle Class



It's a long video but is OKOP in a nutshell.

- Debutante Cotillions
- The Girlfriends
- John Johnson
- Earl dikkerson
- Collier Heights
- Westchester Co., NY
- Oak Bluffs
- Percy Julian
- St. Clare Drake
- Howard University
- Omega Psi Phi
- Episcopal Church


Some of it is very cringe. For the first time, I can see why some black folks have reservations about this group. There was certainly a real element of detachment among some members of the OKOP set and the broader black largesse. I've personally observed the shockingly large social gulf between upper class blacks and the larger black underclass, but I've never heard anyone talk about it, where they do so in this film so candidly and even go on to say that they identify more with whites....basically the charge that many "boule haters", especially on this site, have levied against them.

 

[get these nets]

@Dorian Gray ,

There are hitpiece elements of that doc., but there is some balance to it. And it allows individuals to voice their own opinions. Previously, others were speaking/writing for an entire segment of people.

Doc. aired in 1968, as the country was going through social and cultural revolutions. Many of the views expressed are old ways of thinking. People of all social stratum and races were challenged to unlearn those old notions, views, and ways.

Because of the legal victories of the Civil Rights Movement, the number of Black professionals and wealthy Blacks has expanded tremendously since then. Many who have married into OKOP circles. If those new people stay true to themselves, they will directly challenge old school ways of thinking. Previous newcomers, and their descendants have rejected negative vestiges of the set. John Johnson, and A'lelia Bundles come to mind.

 

[get these nets]

There are certainly a number of producers/writers that come from the OKOP set.
.

I found out about another one. The High on the Hog book and Netflix series features members and stories from that set. But there is a more direct connection, and it was written about in OKOP.



Brett Favre and Brittany Spears ties were eye opening stories. As is this indirect one.
One of the executive producers of the series is Karis Jagger.

Shown here with with fellow EP Fabienne Toback and Dr. Jessica Harris

Spoiler: Wedding picture with parents

Her mother is Marsha Hunt

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“That story is just tearing this town apart—just tearing us apart.” The others sitting around the table nodded in agreement as Erma Clanton pushed her shiny black hair from her left eye and gestured over to a large book that sat on my Aunt Earlene’s kitchen counter. “Dr. Hunt was a fine man, and it’s just a shame that he should be villified by his own flesh and blood,” added another woman who sat in the family room that opened up into the breakfast room where a dozen of us had collected the night before my uncle’s wake at the T. H. Hayes Funeral Home. Most of the fifteen or sixteen men and women who sat in the kitchen—including my parents—had grown up in Memphis. And they were fiercely protective of the highly esteemed black families who had played a role in the town’s history. The person they were talking about was Blair T. Hunt, leader of two of black Memphis’s most important black institutions: Booker T. Washington High School, the city’s first black high school, and Mississippi Boulevard Church.

Blair T. Hunt
“Those stories are just tearing us apart,” repeated Clanton, a recently retired professor who had taught drama for twenty years at Memphis State University. Like many on the South Side of Memphis, she was disturbed by a book that had recently been published by the granddaughter of Blair Hunt, the prominent educator and minister. “I don’t know how much we should believe anyway,” one of the men snapped.

“Isn’t she married to one of these white rock stars anyway?” My relatives shrugged as they listened to the well-substantiated rumor about how the beloved Hunt had allegedly placed his light-skinned wife in an insane asylum in the 1940s against her will. What was most shocking was that many of the old guard presumed that she had died in the 1950s, though when in fact she was still alive in the 1990s when her granddaughter wrote about her in the controversial book Repossessing Ernestine. – taken from Our Kind Of People by Lawrence Otis Graham.

As it turns out, Marsha Hunt, actress, singer, model, muse of Mick Jagger, is the granddaughter of Blair T. Hunt, Jr. of the Memphis black elite history. But Marsha didn’t grow up in Memphis nor did she know anything about that side of her family until much later in life. Her father, Blaire Theodore Hunt was one of the first black psychiatrists in the country.

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[Ol’Otis]

Show gone be ass