Lavar Tried To Son The GOAT, But The Ball In MJ's Court Now: Charlotte Hornets 2020-21 Season Thread

[Michael's Black Son]

what is the alternative at this point? at this rate if they dont make the playoffs theyre gonna finish around 9-10th in the east with a late lottery pick who becomes decent at best just like all of those picks from kembas last few years and miss out on a star like how they missed out on mitchell/bam/sga/herro(hes not a star but hes better than who was picked before him)

id rather they make moves and try to push for the playoffs, build a winning culture from the jump in lamelo's rookie season and it's only up from there

facts. They are not getting another #3 draft pick and that “play to win” mentality Melo has is rubbing off on other players. This team can be a 5 seed in the East, so let them cook.

Are they gonna blow thru the Bucks or Sixers? Probably not but we gotta continue to see what works on this team and what doesn’t instead of tanking and the attitudes that come with that.

A lottery pick would be great but this team has maneuver thru trades like everyone else along with scouting. This season is doing wonders for the perception of the Hornets and a major part of that is the wave of people who followed Melo and are tuning in no matter what.

Next step is to find a name brand coach.

 

[42 Monks]

what is the alternative at this point? at this rate if they dont make the playoffs theyre gonna finish around 9-10th in the east with a late lottery pick who becomes decent at best just like all of those picks from kembas last few years and miss out on a star like how they missed out on mitchell/bam/sga/herro(hes not a star but hes better than who was picked before him)

id rather they make moves and try to push for the playoffs, build a winning culture from the jump in lamelo's rookie season and it's only up from there

the alternative is to not run guys we need into the ground or make short-sighted moves in a shortened season where we have one of the worst defensives in team history - and i don't even care about a top 3 pick.

playing to win when there's no point is the difference between gerald henderson and demar derozan. and i'm still mad at larry brown for going all out to win a game of the year and screwing the franchise over for it. and there's nothing to 'learn' about these guys either. we all know Miles and PJ ain't it and we need to sell high. all our bigs are trash. graham gotta go. rozier's only got two years on his deal left and next year he'll be the only guy propping up our salary that isn't a long term investment. we're not in a memphis situation nor in a young denver situation. there is no core here yet.

yal can't possibly think we're gonna learn something new by getting swept.

 

[42 Monks]

looked it up. 2 game difference between the raptors and bobcats that year. not too far off

44-38 for the privilege of getting swept, reinforcing managements shytty ideas about how good the team actually is, and missing out a player that would've actually mattered

i go back to losing for free is fukkin stupid. bad teams get one playoff run and start thinking they're just "a few pieces away" then ruin themselves. we all know this song.

 

[Henry Orbit]

the alternative is to not run guys we need into the ground or make short-sighted moves in a shortened season where we have one of the worst defensives in team history - and i don't even care about a top 3 pick.

playing to win when there's no point is the difference between gerald henderson and demar derozan. and i'm still mad at larry brown for going all out to win a game of the year and screwing the franchise over for it. and there's nothing to 'learn' about these guys either. we all know Miles and PJ ain't it and we need to sell high. all our bigs are trash. graham gotta go. rozier's only got two years on his deal left and next year he'll be the only guy propping up our salary that isn't a long term investment. we're not in a memphis situation nor in a young denver situation. there is no core here yet.

yal can't possibly think we're gonna learn something new by getting swept.

Yeah, you're right. I used to get mad at Gerald Wallace playing hard at the end of the season thinking they could make the 8th seed from 6 games back when they needed to be tanking. Ruined Gilbert Arenas' career off of that

This season got me gassed up, I just want to see if Gordon's good enough to win a playoff series before he Kevin Love's that contract

 

[SpacelySprockets]

the alternative is to not run guys we need into the ground or make short-sighted moves in a shortened season where we have one of the worst defensives in team history - and i don't even care about a top 3 pick.

playing to win when there's no point is the difference between gerald henderson and demar derozan. and i'm still mad at larry brown for going all out to win a game of the year and screwing the franchise over for it. and there's nothing to 'learn' about these guys either. we all know Miles and PJ ain't it and we need to sell high. all our bigs are trash. graham gotta go. rozier's only got two years on his deal left and next year he'll be the only guy propping up our salary that isn't a long term investment. we're not in a memphis situation nor in a young denver situation. there is no core here yet.

yal can't possibly think we're gonna learn something new by getting swept.

who are u running into the ground that u need? realistically the only people who the hornets should "need" in long term plans is 19 year old lamelo and 31 year old gordon hayward due to his contract... the 19 year old isnt at risk of being ran to the ground and the 31 year old would surely want to make the most of whats left of his good years

im not saying settle on what this roster currently is, but what is the issue with making trades to improve the team right now while they're in striking distance of the playoffs rather than losing the season out thus tanking certain players values and waiting till the offseason to try to move them?

they need to make whatever moves necessary and sell high starting this season while certain guys are playing well enough to look attractive for teams to wanna trade for, and surround their core player(s) with the best talent before the deadline and go for a playoff push, they have nothing to lose, even if they get swept that's still playoff experience for a rookie leading a team that he can take with him going forward establishing a winning culture rather than writing off a season for no reason.. there is nothing short sighted about trading anybody besides lamelo/gordon on this roster for a better player for a playoff push unless it results in a crippling contract that doesnt live up to its value

that is better than the alternative of giving up and accepting losing in hopes that you land another star/building block via the draft or free agency which both have historically not worked out in the hornets favor

 

[42 Monks]

who are u running into the ground that u need? realistically the only people who the hornets should "need" in long term plans is 19 year old lamelo and 31 year old gordon hayward due to his contract... the 19 year old isnt at risk of being ran to the ground and the 31 year old would surely want to make the most of whats left of his good years

im not saying settle on what this roster currently is, but what is the issue with making trades to improve the team right now while they're in striking distance of the playoffs rather than losing the season out thus tanking certain players values and waiting till the offseason to try to move them?

they need to make whatever moves necessary and sell high starting this season while certain guys are playing well enough to look attractive for teams to wanna trade for, and surround their core player(s) with the best talent before the deadline and go for a playoff push, they have nothing to lose, even if they get swept that's still playoff experience for a rookie leading a team that he can take with him going forward establishing a winning culture rather than writing off a season for no reason.. there is nothing short sighted about trading anybody besides lamelo/gordon on this roster for a better player for a playoff push unless it results in a crippling contract that doesnt live up to its value

that is better than the alternative of giving up and accepting losing in hopes that you land another star/building block via the draft or free agency which both have historically not worked out in the hornets favor

lamelo playing several 36+ minute games weighing 180 in a condensed season is dangerous as hell.

and as much as I hate on PJ, he's currently hurt because he was in the game while the team was up 30 on minnesota just a few days ago. its reckless. if that was lamelo, down instead of him yal would be fukkin livid. i don't get the "he's only 19, he can't get hurt" stuff either when guys get run into ground at the college level just as easily. conditioning is a process.

there's no need to make any big trades because all these guys that we can't stand are coming off the books at the end of the year anyways or they're due for extension talks soon. the only thing we should really be doing is holding open tryouts for every G-league center that believes they can one day be better than biyombo. we already fukked up not selling graham before his value went through the floor and he got hurt on top of that too.

what is miles or pj even gonna get us? someone really gonna throw us a myles turner for the bullshyt we got? we got one of the youngest teams in the league. there is no rush.

its a rebuild and the #1 reason rebuilds go to shyt is because teams try to speed up the process or they ruin their young guys through bad coaching/injury management. thinking we're one piece away or just a few more chance comebacks can change this team's trajectory is ridiculous.

we can't guard shyt. as soon as lamelo locks up ROY, shut his ass down. fukk this season. phoenix doing just fine right now because they did it right finally

 

[Black Lightning]

Ok fine. He's getting a Van vleet contract. I'll say that.

He's an undersized SG(6'0).

There's no way in the hell MJ giving him 85+ million.

 

[daboywonder2002]

He's an undersized SG(6'0).

There's no way in the hell MJ giving him 85+ million.

So is Van Vleet. Van vleets stats the season he hit free agency- 17 pts 6 dimes. 41% from the field. 39% from three

Roziers numbers right now 20 pts 3 dimes 49% from the field. 43.9% from three. Lets just round up to 44. And he's a better defender than Van Vleet.

 

[42 Monks]

So is Van Vleet. Van vleets stats the season he hit free agency- 17 pts 6 dimes. 41% from the field. 39% from three

Roziers numbers right now 20 pts 3 dimes 49% from the field. 43.9% from three. Lets just round up to 44. And he's a better defender than Van Vleet.

we a finals team now?

and fukk no he ain't a better defender than fred...

 

[inndaskKy]

When will it be Detroit's turn?

Read your own signature breh

 

[Bryan Danielson]

fukk it sign Blake

 

[42 Monks]

fukk it sign Blake

negged

 

[Bryan Danielson]

negged

Come on Cuz.... you don’t think he good for atleast 2 ally’s a game from Melo?

Also to keep this nicca from going to the Nets

 

[42 Monks]

Come on Cuz.... you don’t think he good for atleast 2 ally’s a game from Melo?

Also to keep this nicca from going to the Nets

you are such a casual

even if blake ain't completely washed, and i don't think he is, we got one of the youngest teams in the league and enough time to be holding open tryouts for random G-league dudes hoping to find more guys who can turn into assets. let him go ring chase. we aren't competing with the Nets any time soon.

 

[Starboy52]

fukk it sign Blake

You tryna fukk up y'all's timetable with that signing.