Well We Got Dallas’s First Round Picks For ‘21 & ‘23 Plus Our Own, Maybe We’ll Luck Out One Day In The Future Brehs 
Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20
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Zion is disappointed that the Knicks didn’t win the lottery.
He needs to do what needs to be done and tell the Pelicans and Grizzlies not to draft him
He needs to do what needs to be done and tell the Pelicans and Grizzlies not to draft him
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word to all y'all nikkas mom's stop talking about rj claiming that.........fukk they jacking that bs too tough yugghck*
If we whiff on Durant and kyrie all I ask is to not give free agents max contracts just cuz
keep the money and keep building! Don’t trade any picks or young talent. We been bad enough for a while let’s get this team building shyt right.
keep the money and keep building! Don’t trade any picks or young talent. We been bad enough for a while let’s get this team building shyt right.
This. Cosign x1000If we whiff on Durant and kyrie all I ask is to not give free agents max contracts just cuz
Kirk Thuglass
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If we whiff on Durant and kyrie all I ask is to not give free agents max contracts just cuz
id hope we'd take on some bad contracts with that space to gather more picks/young players. kemba is about the "worst" player i'd sign. anything less than him
Something tells me that post summer league... He will not be in a Pelicans jersey.Zion is disappointed that the Knicks didn’t win the lottery.
He needs to do what needs to be done and tell the Pelicans and Grizzlies not to draft him
I would trade the 3rd pick and Knox for Zion
It can be done there’s a precedent.
Kobe did it to the Hornets
Steve Francis told the Vancouver Grizzlies to kick rocks.
He needs to be a man tell them he ain’t playing for nobody except NY
Miles Davis
Prince of Darkness
If we could get Mikal and the Suns pick
How is this even possible? There no rule in the league about not playing for a team that’s signed you?Zion is disappointed that the Knicks didn’t win the lottery.
He needs to do what needs to be done and tell the Pelicans and Grizzlies not to draft him
I was told teams are being very frugal with picks now so don’t expect any situations where you get picks for cap relief.id hope we'd take on some bad contracts with that space to gather more picks/young players. kemba is about the "worst" player i'd sign. anything less than him
qnsfinest
Superstar
I like Garland way more than Dennis Smith Jr. Would you trade DSJ for the suns 7th pick and draft garland?
Or do the suns tell us to kick rocks?
Or do the suns tell us to kick rocks?
Cmon man have you just started watching sports?
He can tell the Pelicans and the Grizzlies not to pick him and force his way to NY
storyteller
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I finally had an excuse to go in. If yall like it, share the link fam. Lots of fans of other teams are running their mouths, but don't be distracted by the fact that we're in a great position thanks to the past year's work from Perry and Mills.
Dear Knicks fans,
Do me a favor and stop listening to haters who like other teams and watch three NCAA games a year before March Madness rolls around. Step off the ledge, I'm here to remind you about the situation we were in heading into the draft lottery and the situation on hand now that we know where everything has landed. These were the circumstances before the draft lottery:
Someone explain to Ramona that David Griffin doesn't have any impact on the draft lottery please. While we're at it, it's probably a good time to make a few other points. If the Knicks were in the second or third slot (those Cavs and Suns spots), they'd be making a pick at 5 or 6 in a draft where the talent drop off is pegged after 3. While the Knicks survived 60% odds to fall even further, their counterparts with second, third, fourth and fifth best odds in the draft lottery all fell 3 places. The sky might be falling if you're feeling like the Knicks never catch a break...but this is honestly the third break they've gotten in a row.
First the Lakers let Mitchell Robinson slip to the second round where the Knicks got their best young asset for the 36th pick in a draft. Then the Mavericks came through and took a disgruntled KP off the Knicks' hands, giving them the cap space to fuel KD rumors and the extra first round picks that allows them additional flexibility (this opens up the ability to trade firsts in consecutive drafts). Third, the Knicks landed in a spot to pick one of the draft's premier talents. Yes, the star of the show is Zion Williamson but Ja Morant and RJ Barrett have been the second tier for a long time, putting the Knicks in much better position than the other squads that tanked. Losing out on Zion is painful in vacuum, especially after a 17 win season; but try winning 19 games and ending up with the 6th pick. More importantly though, the Knicks are still in a great position for the offseason.
When you pull back the curtain and look at the Knicks' circumstances, you'll actually see that everything is still looking pretty damned promising. The Knicks will still have more cap space this offseason than anyone else, a collective of young developing talent, multiple first round picks in future drafts and a top three selection. This is what the Knicks are looking at heading into the offseason; step off of the ledge fam, we're looking at the best circumstances some of you have ever seen for the Knicks in a single offseason (I'm 32 and it's true for me). Trading for Anthony Davis is a lot less likely and Zion is no longer an option, but everything else is still just as promising as it was prior to the draft lottery.
One of RJ Barrett or Ja Morant will be available and there are some interesting players that could make a move into the conversation with those two as well. Darius Garland is my sleeper pick, he'd be a household name if he hadn't been injured. Jarrett Culver has the tools to contribute up and down the stat-line although he hasn't particularly shown that he has number one offensive option upside. There's also Deandre Hunter who the March Madness only viewers should be very familiar with. Another interesting option could be tapping Washington to see how they feel about a trade for Bradley Beal built around that top three pick. The key here is that the Knicks have a lot of directions to go with that pick, many more than they would have slipping just one or two more spots in the draft.
This is a good time to note that the Knicks offseason will likely be defined by one player in a similar fashion to this draft lottery. Just like everyone pegged all of the Knicks fans' hopes to Zion, the narrative is building toward a KD or bust free agency. Let me take a moment to refute that narrative also. Yes, the best case scenario for the Knicks starts with one of KD or Kawhi signing; but that is far from the only scenario that can leave the Knicks in an advantageous scenario. I'm not here to preach the values of Kyrie or any other free agent alone, but the value of cap flexibility. Don't take it from me though, take it from president of basketball operations Steve Mills:
“We feel good about the summer. We feel we’re in a position that it gives us an opportunity. We hope we get lucky and we land free agents. And if not, we’ll keep building the way we’re building. The space gives us an opportunity to be flexible in terms of how we deal with trades. We can take guys into our [cap] room in the trade process, it gives us the flexibility to continue to build the team the way we’ve been building it. But it gives us an opportunity to make it better in a way with free-agent or trade prospects.”
You don't have to hand out contracts with cap space. The Knicks could target top FA's or others at prices that they feel are fair and if that doesn't work out, trade avenues will be wide open. The Knicks can eat unwanted contracts for the cost of more assets or take chances on players that need a change of scenery. They could also roll over the cap space necessary to target Anthony Davis when in case hits free agency next season (which appears to be likely barring a trade to LA). Flexibility is important and the offseason won't be a loss if Kevin Durant and Kawhi choose other locations. The only way to seal the Knicks' fate on a bad path would be to spend foolishly and even in that case, they'd have an escape hatch in the form of all those picks and youth they've acquired. If you're still on the ledge, consider that there are more paths and options for this franchise than choices in Bandersnatch. None of this guarantees success, but it does mean that the road to next training camp is unpredictable with a lot more ways to build a foundation than tear it apart. Barring James Dolan going full Targaryen and burning MSG to the ground, the Knicks are still positioned to make a bold step in the right direction. Patience is hard to come by after extended challenges for this franchise, but the third pick in the draft is not a reason to mourn our losses. Take a deep breath, take a step back and for the love of God; stop putting all your eggs in one basket. Take one more quote from Steve Mills with you for the road...
“I don’t feel pressure to deviate from our plan if we don’t get two big free agents. I don’t feel that kind of pressure. The pressure is for us to continue with the process and build this team the way we’re saying we’re going to build it.
“… The worst thing we can do is react to doing the wrong thing because we’re disappointed something didn’t happen exactly the way we want it to happen this summer. That could be thing that could derail us from doing what we committed to our fans, what I committed to Jim (owner James Dolan) in how I would build this team.”"
Dear Knicks fans,
Do me a favor and stop listening to haters who like other teams and watch three NCAA games a year before March Madness rolls around. Step off the ledge, I'm here to remind you about the situation we were in heading into the draft lottery and the situation on hand now that we know where everything has landed. These were the circumstances before the draft lottery:
- The Knicks had a 14% chance to win the lottery (tied with the Cavs and Suns) and a 40% chance to land a top three pick.
- The Pelicans were rumored to be scouting the Knicks players in case an Anthony Davis trade materialized and the Knicks were already rumored to be building packages around Zion (although Adrian Wojnarowski denied this rumor later in the night).
- That Pelicans trade was realistic because the Knicks not only had a shot at Zion, but because they had some intriguing young talent (Mitchell Robinson, Dennis Smith Jr and Kevin Knox at the top along with Dotson, Trier and Ntilikina).
- There was also guaranteed routes for the Knicks to sign two max contract value players and along with that was a constant buzz of rumors surrounding Kyrie Irving and Kevin Durant.
- Finally, outside of the guaranteed top five pick, the Knicks were also looking at owning all of their own first round draft picks to go with 2 from Mavs that they got in the KP trade.
Someone explain to Ramona that David Griffin doesn't have any impact on the draft lottery please. While we're at it, it's probably a good time to make a few other points. If the Knicks were in the second or third slot (those Cavs and Suns spots), they'd be making a pick at 5 or 6 in a draft where the talent drop off is pegged after 3. While the Knicks survived 60% odds to fall even further, their counterparts with second, third, fourth and fifth best odds in the draft lottery all fell 3 places. The sky might be falling if you're feeling like the Knicks never catch a break...but this is honestly the third break they've gotten in a row.
First the Lakers let Mitchell Robinson slip to the second round where the Knicks got their best young asset for the 36th pick in a draft. Then the Mavericks came through and took a disgruntled KP off the Knicks' hands, giving them the cap space to fuel KD rumors and the extra first round picks that allows them additional flexibility (this opens up the ability to trade firsts in consecutive drafts). Third, the Knicks landed in a spot to pick one of the draft's premier talents. Yes, the star of the show is Zion Williamson but Ja Morant and RJ Barrett have been the second tier for a long time, putting the Knicks in much better position than the other squads that tanked. Losing out on Zion is painful in vacuum, especially after a 17 win season; but try winning 19 games and ending up with the 6th pick. More importantly though, the Knicks are still in a great position for the offseason.
When you pull back the curtain and look at the Knicks' circumstances, you'll actually see that everything is still looking pretty damned promising. The Knicks will still have more cap space this offseason than anyone else, a collective of young developing talent, multiple first round picks in future drafts and a top three selection. This is what the Knicks are looking at heading into the offseason; step off of the ledge fam, we're looking at the best circumstances some of you have ever seen for the Knicks in a single offseason (I'm 32 and it's true for me). Trading for Anthony Davis is a lot less likely and Zion is no longer an option, but everything else is still just as promising as it was prior to the draft lottery.
One of RJ Barrett or Ja Morant will be available and there are some interesting players that could make a move into the conversation with those two as well. Darius Garland is my sleeper pick, he'd be a household name if he hadn't been injured. Jarrett Culver has the tools to contribute up and down the stat-line although he hasn't particularly shown that he has number one offensive option upside. There's also Deandre Hunter who the March Madness only viewers should be very familiar with. Another interesting option could be tapping Washington to see how they feel about a trade for Bradley Beal built around that top three pick. The key here is that the Knicks have a lot of directions to go with that pick, many more than they would have slipping just one or two more spots in the draft.
This is a good time to note that the Knicks offseason will likely be defined by one player in a similar fashion to this draft lottery. Just like everyone pegged all of the Knicks fans' hopes to Zion, the narrative is building toward a KD or bust free agency. Let me take a moment to refute that narrative also. Yes, the best case scenario for the Knicks starts with one of KD or Kawhi signing; but that is far from the only scenario that can leave the Knicks in an advantageous scenario. I'm not here to preach the values of Kyrie or any other free agent alone, but the value of cap flexibility. Don't take it from me though, take it from president of basketball operations Steve Mills:
“We feel good about the summer. We feel we’re in a position that it gives us an opportunity. We hope we get lucky and we land free agents. And if not, we’ll keep building the way we’re building. The space gives us an opportunity to be flexible in terms of how we deal with trades. We can take guys into our [cap] room in the trade process, it gives us the flexibility to continue to build the team the way we’ve been building it. But it gives us an opportunity to make it better in a way with free-agent or trade prospects.”
You don't have to hand out contracts with cap space. The Knicks could target top FA's or others at prices that they feel are fair and if that doesn't work out, trade avenues will be wide open. The Knicks can eat unwanted contracts for the cost of more assets or take chances on players that need a change of scenery. They could also roll over the cap space necessary to target Anthony Davis when in case hits free agency next season (which appears to be likely barring a trade to LA). Flexibility is important and the offseason won't be a loss if Kevin Durant and Kawhi choose other locations. The only way to seal the Knicks' fate on a bad path would be to spend foolishly and even in that case, they'd have an escape hatch in the form of all those picks and youth they've acquired. If you're still on the ledge, consider that there are more paths and options for this franchise than choices in Bandersnatch. None of this guarantees success, but it does mean that the road to next training camp is unpredictable with a lot more ways to build a foundation than tear it apart. Barring James Dolan going full Targaryen and burning MSG to the ground, the Knicks are still positioned to make a bold step in the right direction. Patience is hard to come by after extended challenges for this franchise, but the third pick in the draft is not a reason to mourn our losses. Take a deep breath, take a step back and for the love of God; stop putting all your eggs in one basket. Take one more quote from Steve Mills with you for the road...
“I don’t feel pressure to deviate from our plan if we don’t get two big free agents. I don’t feel that kind of pressure. The pressure is for us to continue with the process and build this team the way we’re saying we’re going to build it.
“… The worst thing we can do is react to doing the wrong thing because we’re disappointed something didn’t happen exactly the way we want it to happen this summer. That could be thing that could derail us from doing what we committed to our fans, what I committed to Jim (owner James Dolan) in how I would build this team.”"
Cmon man have you just started watching sports?
He can tell the Pelicans and the Grizzlies not to pick him and force his way to NY
Has A Number 1 Pick EVER Done This? It’s Not Gonna Happen, Stop lol
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rj ain't adding nothing we don't already got or whatever the fukk.........only difference is he will chuck his team out wins not with it nooooooooo*
