Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

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Unpopular opinion: Fiz is a great coach and we'll be a much improved contender next season as promised.
Unpopular opinion: Fiz is a great coach and we'll be a much improved contender next season as promised.
Great ? Great ??? Great ??????what makes him a great coach based off this season
 

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I understand the frustation, but how do you coach winning basketball when everyone and their mama knows the best path forward is to lose now?

So here's my thing fam, no matter how well he coached, the team was gonna be a bottom feeder. The personnel isn't good enough and there aren't enough defenders on the team. He could get Knox and Mudiay to close out harder. He could get Trier to recognize defensive spacing better. Dotson's awareness might have actually gotten worse fam and you can't blame the higher workload on that. These are problems that these kids need to correct if they want to play meaningful minutes for a team that's going after wins. I get that these are details and not the broad strokes out there...but that's why these could be fixed while we're still tanking. It'd just set these kids up to play winning basketball faster when the real pieces do come in and it would help them fit with more line-ups. Check out what he said prior to the season starting, he talked about building a defensive identity first and foremost.

“Coming here, I see athletes, I see speed, I see a physical toughness to us,” Fizdale said. “I want to get up and down the court, I want to share the basketball, I want to attack the paint. But none of that will start without us being a great defensive team.”

https://nypost.com/2018/05/08/david-fizdales-first-knicks-priority-already-painfully-obvious/

I get that it was an uphill battle, but there was no accountability whatsoever and that's what I'm really disappointed about. We really didn't have to be watching THJ for 35 minutes a night to be bad fam. Mudiay and Kanter didn't have to be out there together if Mitch wasn't fouled out or Luke Kornet was around (I still think we lose just as much). We might have actually done worse, but the defense wouldn't have been a horror show.

And I'm not saying he needs to go or anything like that. I know and acknowledge that Fiz has gotten tangible improvements out of a lot of the young guys on offense, keeps them motivated in the worst season in franchise history and I think that the players around the league like him. All of that is important and makes him well worth having, an improvement over most recent coaches. But a spade's a spade, the defense could have been handled much better.
 

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your opinion Is your opinion but just explain why breh
Frank has been injured and hasn't shown signs of improvement. There's no leaders on the team. It's basically rookie development. Now let's compare our 2 rookies to the rookies on other teams and their stats are in the top 5.
 

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Pop is the G.O.A.T. coach and has always had elite defenses except this year they're 20th in defensive rating because they don't have the personnel

Coaching only goes so far

Youngest team in the league and only one player has improved defensively. The rest are stagnant or worse. No one’s asking for an elite defense. Just that the players actually show some actual growth.
 

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Youngest team in the league and only one player has improved defensively. The rest are stagnant or worse. No one’s asking for an elite defense. Just that the players actually show some actual growth.
I agree, Nets were garbage last two years but you could see what direction Kenny Atkinson wanted them to go in and you could see actual improvement. With Fiz like it just seems to be all empty talk :francis: but he didn't even finish his first season with the Knicks yet so it's still too early. Hopefully I'm wrong.
 

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Youngest team in the league and only one player has improved defensively. The rest are stagnant or worse. No one’s asking for an elite defense. Just that the players actually show some actual growth.
I don’t know what you’re expecting some of these guys may never defend at a competent level their entire careers
 

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I agree, Nets were garbage last two years but you could see what direction Kenny Atkinson wanted them to go in and you could see actual improvement. With Fiz like it just seems to be all empty talk :francis: but he didn't even finish his first season with the Knicks yet so it's still too early. Hopefully I'm wrong.

Yeah, get us enough talent that his work is easy for him or have him prove me wrong. I just want to see him back up his damned words.

In other news, Mitch Robinson has the quickest second bounce I can recall off top 19 and 21 plus kept the 2 blocks streak going. Dennis Smith looked really rusty out there. The team shot miserably and dudes were looking reluctant to shoot all night.
 
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