Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

storyteller

Superstar
Joined
May 23, 2012
Messages
16,278
Reputation
4,989
Daps
61,983
Reppin
NYC
Walker gives me Shumpert vibes....:ld:

Although, a healthy and focused Shumpert type player is a decent player, just not someone I would pick at 9. Maybe a healthy & focused Shumpert is his floor tho, what do you see his ceiling as? Also, not feelin the other Bridges, Miles @ 9 that much anymore?

Agree on Kanter and Knox at 14 would be a good pick.

It's tough to talk ceiling because he (Zhaire too) hits all of the athleticism marks really well but is clearly raw and needs work. My thing about Walker is he was fresh off meniscus surgery and still looked impressive. I think there may be more than meets the eye there and I'd LOVE to have two picks so we could take a risk on him and play it safer with BPA on the other pick. I'm not down on Miles at 9 so much as, if we had pick 14 I think we could get Knox so Forward is covered.
 

ProlificLurker

Superstar
Joined
Aug 9, 2017
Messages
3,318
Reputation
2,533
Daps
14,377
Reppin
NYC/Ayiti
It's tough to talk ceiling because he (Zhaire too) hits all of the athleticism marks really well but is clearly raw and needs work. My thing about Walker is he was fresh off meniscus surgery and still looked impressive. I think there may be more than meets the eye there and I'd LOVE to have two picks so we could take a risk on him and play it safer with BPA on the other pick. I'm not down on Miles at 9 so much as, if we had pick 14 I think we could get Knox so Forward is covered.

Knox is 6'9 right? Youngest player in the draft, possibly still growing (in terms of height), will get bigger as his body fills out (:dame:)

Could potentially play the 4, even if its just during extended stretches as a small ball 4. Just b/c you draft Miles doesn't mean you can't take Knox too, if the opportunity were to present itself. Perhaps im looking it at it too much from a fit/needs perspective, Im just not really all that keen on taking another guard. If we were to take a chance on a guard thats raw id take a long look at Shai out of Kentucky.
 

storyteller

Superstar
Joined
May 23, 2012
Messages
16,278
Reputation
4,989
Daps
61,983
Reppin
NYC
Knox is 6'9 right? Youngest player in the draft, possibly still growing (in terms of height), will get bigger as his body fills out (:dame:)

Could potentially play the 4, even if its just during extended stretches as a small ball 4. Just b/c you draft Miles doesn't mean you can't take Knox too, if the opportunity were to present itself. Perhaps im looking it at it too much from a fit/needs perspective, Im just not really all that keen on taking another guard. If we were to take a chance on a guard thats raw id take a long look at Shai out of Kentucky.

I look at the fit as; both guys (Miles and Knox) are projecting as SF with some PF potential (being mindful that Miles would be better served as a PF imo but is only 6'5). I think their minutes would overlap whereas a true SG like Lonnie or Zhaire gives you more flexibility to get all the youth out there at once because you're not forced to go small to make them fit. I could see taking the risk that Walker falls to 14 though and having Frank/Walker/Miles Bridges (the wingspans :banderas:). Also, having THJ become our 6th man eventually is my ideal so adding a future SG makes a lot of sense to me.
 

DoubleClutch

Superstar
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
16,436
Reputation
-2,250
Daps
29,819
Reppin
NULL
I agree worst case scenario Knicks get Lonnie who is basically Shumpert 2.0.

Remember young Shump on the Knicks was a fan favorite with tremendous upside.

Id still want knicks to move up and get Bamba. :ohlawd:
 

storyteller

Superstar
Joined
May 23, 2012
Messages
16,278
Reputation
4,989
Daps
61,983
Reppin
NYC
I agree worst case scenario Knicks get Lonnie who is basically Shumpert 2.0.

Remember young Shump on the Knicks was a fan favorite with tremendous upside.

Id still want knicks to move up and get Bamba. :ohlawd:

Bamba had this "it" factor about his game that I didn't see in anyone else. Not a measurable or anything but just that you felt his presence the second he stepped on the floor in a way even guys like Trae Young didn't. If there were a way to get that Grizz pick and virtually guarantee one of Doncic or Bamba; I would explore every possibility to make it happen...but I don't think we get that lucky.
 

ProlificLurker

Superstar
Joined
Aug 9, 2017
Messages
3,318
Reputation
2,533
Daps
14,377
Reppin
NYC/Ayiti
I look at the fit as; both guys (Miles and Knox) are projecting as SF with some PF potential (being mindful that Miles would be better served as a PF imo but is only 6'5). I think their minutes would overlap whereas a true SG like Lonnie or Zhaire gives you more flexibility to get all the youth out there at once because you're not forced to go small to make them fit. I could see taking the risk that Walker falls to 14 though and having Frank/Walker/Miles Bridges (the wingspans :banderas:). Also, having THJ become our 6th man eventually is my ideal so adding a future SG makes a lot of sense to me.

....what abt Dotson? And among the trio of Burke, Frank Nitty, & Mudiay, you gotta figure at least one is going to play some mins off the ball as a SG, if for no other reason then to get some mins. Then, THJr whether he's a starter or coming off the bench, is going to get mins. Seems pretty crowded as is, adding another guard that can only play one position creates a logjam. I suppose you take a SG if you feel like their a very high end talent then figure out the mins distribution after the fact. Just seems like someone's mins would suffer in that scenario, thus stunting their development
 
Last edited:

storyteller

Superstar
Joined
May 23, 2012
Messages
16,278
Reputation
4,989
Daps
61,983
Reppin
NYC
....what abt Dotson? And among the trio of Burke, Frank Nitty, & Mudiay, you gotta figure at least one is going to play some mins off the ball as a SG, if for no other reason then to get some mins. Then, THJr whether he's a starter or coming off the bench, is going to get mins. Seems pretty crowded as is, adding another guard that can only play one position creates a logjam. I suppose you take a SG if you feel like their a very high end talent then figure out the mins distribution after the fact

I'm not nearly as high on Burke as most people and he's an expiring contract. Mudiay is a guy who I wouldn't burn minutes on unless he absolutely earns them. So Frank/Burke at the bulk of PG minutes coupled with Lee gone would mean the wing minutes would work with 2 lottery picks, THJ and Dotson...mix in spot minutes at 3/4 for Troy Williams and maybe, just maybe we never have to see Lance again.

Edit: sidenote too, once we're past 10 the only two bigs I find really intriguing are Robinson and Williams. Otherwise it's all wings; Zhaire, Walker, Brown, KBD, SGA and Divincenzo mainly...Huerter if he fell to the second but he won't.
 

ProlificLurker

Superstar
Joined
Aug 9, 2017
Messages
3,318
Reputation
2,533
Daps
14,377
Reppin
NYC/Ayiti
I'm not nearly as high on Burke as most people and he's an expiring contract. Mudiay is a guy who I wouldn't burn minutes on unless he absolutely earns them. So Frank/Burke at the bulk of PG minutes coupled with Lee gone would mean the wing minutes would work with 2 lottery picks, THJ and Dotson...mix in spot minutes at 3/4 for Troy Williams and maybe, just maybe we never have to see Lance again.

Edit: sidenote too, once we're past 10 the only two bigs I find really intriguing are Robinson and Williams. Otherwise it's all wings; Zhaire, Walker, Brown, KBD, SGA and Divincenzo mainly...Huerter if he fell to the second but he won't.

Not sold on Burke as a starter (yet), but I think he has proven he's a good NBA rotational player at the guard slot. He's shown a level of consistency as an efficient scoring guard that would/should translate well to a 6th man role. Would love to see that level of consistency from THJr :francis:

I know a lot of ppl have given up on Mudiay, and im not expecting much out of him either, but I would like to see what a motivated Mudiay with a competent coach that will hold him accountable would look like. If he doesnt show next season that he's at minimum a rotational level player he'll be out of the league completely, so we should see the best version of him next yr. Whether the best version of him is a decent NBA player remains to be seen, but I'd give him a 25-30 game trial run to show & prove that he is, and if after that trial run he still same ol' Mudiay then bury him deep on the bench or send him packin :camby:

Ive seen enough of THJ as a 3 last season to never want to see that again, even in spot mins :scusthov: Let the small ball 3/spot mins at 3 go exclusively to Dotson.

If we aren't able to make a deal with Denver, then Id look to make a deal with someone in the 20s and take KBD. Really like him as a prospect.
 

DoubleClutch

Superstar
Joined
May 8, 2012
Messages
16,436
Reputation
-2,250
Daps
29,819
Reppin
NULL
Bamba had this "it" factor about his game that I didn't see in anyone else. Not a measurable or anything but just that you felt his presence the second he stepped on the floor in a way even guys like Trae Young didn't. If there were a way to get that Grizz pick and virtually guarantee one of Doncic or Bamba; I would explore every possibility to make it happen...but I don't think we get that lucky.

yea I feel like Bamba has the highest upside and the right attitude for NYC

And he doesn’t necessarily need to be a great scorer

You can see 2 way players like Gobert, Capela, Davis really being rare in today’s nba and coveted

Imagine Knicks having 2 in Porzingis AND Bamba

Defensively with frank theyd be one of the best in the east instantly
 
Top