Last 18/19 NY Knicks season transmission: "F*** all the haters from you to SAS" See y'all in '20

[Ironman]

The team needed a go to scorer, Fiz is challenging hardaway to be that guy, that's where his green light comes from.

Trier is strictly a gamer, but he isn't doing traditional isos where everyone standing around like the audience. His moves are quick and normal it involves attacking the rim. Fiz favorite is clearly Mudiay. he want him to be good so bad.

Problem is Tim is more of a second to third option or even 4th on a decent team. I think with kP, Knox coming more into his own, and Trier he'll be better since he won't have to carry the offensive load.

 

[knickscity]

Problem is Tim is more of a second to third option or even 4th on a decent team. I think with kP, Knox coming more into his own, and Trier he'll be better since he won't have to carry the offensive load.

Agreed. I just don't think hardaway has been bad considering the circumstances. This isn't his ideal role, but he's performing as well as possible in it. once those other guys come back and get into form, hardaway will be alright and a 3rd option most likely. You want your third guy to be able to crack 15-20 nightly.

 

[MR. Conclusion]

The team needed a go to scorer, Fiz is challenging hardaway to be that guy, that's where his green light comes from.

Trier is strictly a gamer, but he isn't doing traditional isos where everyone standing around like the audience. His moves are quick and normal it involves attacking the rim. Fiz favorite is clearly Mudiay. he want him to be good so bad.

Zo's isolation moves don't seemed forced and they come off kind of within the flow of the game. Isolation ball isn't necessarily bad if it's mixed in with ball movement.

It probably helps make passing the ball more effective if you occasionally lull defenders to sleep with some ISO play.

 

[Miles Davis]

The team needed a go to scorer, Fiz is challenging hardaway to be that guy, that's where his green light comes from.

Trier is strictly a gamer, but he isn't doing traditional isos where everyone standing around like the audience. His moves are quick and normal it involves attacking the rim. Fiz favorite is clearly Mudiay. he want him to be good so bad.

I think we’re putting too much on Tim offensively. I’d like to see plays or more focus for other younger players and if it’s starts to get away unleash Tim or Trier.

 

[knickscity]

I think we’re putting too much on Tim offensively. I’d like to see plays or more focus for other younger players and if it’s starts to get away unleash Tim or Trier.

I think it develop that way in time, but at the moment it's what we have. Still early, not concerned right now.

 

[Ironman]

I think we’re putting too much on Tim offensively. I’d like to see plays or more focus for other younger players and if it’s starts to get away unleash Tim or Trier.

Dotson needs some pick catch and shoot Klay type plays. Mitch needs more pick and roll opportunities. Frank needs to be pushed to post up more with some of thes small ass guards too I've seen him do it before

 

[storyteller]

Zo's isolation moves don't seemed forced and they come off kind of within the flow of the game. Isolation ball isn't necessarily bad if it's mixed in with ball movement.

It probably helps make passing the ball more effective if you occasionally lull defenders to sleep with some ISO play.

Zo's isolations have two aspects that I think set him apart from most of the iso scorers in the league. First is that he's really good at changing speeds in an explosive manner. Heads will think I'm crazy, but it's a bit Tony Parker-like (in this regard ONLY). He's hit a hesitation into a cross over to get into the lane than use a second hesitation to let the second line of defense make their decisions before he explodes on reaction. Once his man is on his back, he's just really good at picking between full throttle or slowing down a tick.

Second and probably most important is how strong he is as a finisher. That's ultra rare for a rookie and even rare for NBA players in general. Dude can drive into contact and bump guys off of him so that he can get his pull-up jumper or bank a lay-up in space. With the rules how they are, he's gonna get to the line all day off of that style of attacking. It's like a finesse player at the first level (those speed changes and crossovers) that transforms into a power finisher at the second. We may have found a straight up gem.

Also his defense has improved a LOT from summer league and preseason.

 

[NY's #1 Draft Pick]

That play where zo was dribbling with the defender on his back then waited for the center to clear the lane

 

[Wargames]

The team needed a go to scorer, Fiz is challenging hardaway to be that guy, that's where his green light comes from.

Trier is strictly a gamer, but he isn't doing traditional isos where everyone standing around like the audience. His moves are quick and normal it involves attacking the rim. Fiz favorite is clearly Mudiay. he want him to be good so bad.

I feel like if he thinks if he can save Mudiay he can save anyone......



I wish him luck

 

[DPresidential]

I don't accept anyone saying that the Hardaway we see this season is only a 4th option on a decent team.

No, don't do that to the boy.

He is balling. He's our no. 2 until we don't a free agent or when Knox actually shows that he healthy and ready.

I think, even it's all said and done, Tim shares 3 option duties.

 

[storyteller]

I don't accept anyone saying that the Hardaway we see this season is only a 4th option on a decent team.

No, don't do that to the boy.

He is balling. He's our no. 2 until we don't a free agent or when Knox actually shows that he healthy and ready.

I think, even it's all said and done, Tim shares 3 option duties.

He's really showing something out there. I want the ball out of his hands more though, not at all because of his play recently which has been fantastic; but man is he a MONSTER on catch and shoot opportunities. I want the ball out of his hands but finding it's way to him often and I think his FGA's wouldn't drop much while his efficiency could shoot up.

 

[DPresidential]

He's really showing something out there. I want the ball out of his hands more though, not at all because of his play recently which has been fantastic; but man is he a MONSTER on catch and shoot opportunities. I want the ball out of his hands but finding it's way to him often and I think his FGA's wouldn't drop much while his efficiency could shoot up.

Absolutely agreed.

I think in the role you described, Tim could be a Middleton lite with playmaking ability when necessary.

I really think it would be a headache for opposing teams to try to stop an offense with Frank and Timmy in constant off ball movement, KP getting first dibs in the high post and Knox being given the keys to create.

 

[storyteller]

Absolutely agreed.

I think in the role you described, Tim could be a Middleton lite with playmaking ability when necessary.

I really think it would be a headache for opposing teams to try to stop an offense with Frank and Timmy in constant off ball movement, KP getting first dibs in the high post and Knox being given the keys to create.

And Mitch rim running plus fighting for offensive boards. Middleton lite is a good goal for sure (extra lite defensively though ). What's crazy though is that you're talking about a line-up with MASSIVE defensive potential if Knox can figure things out and develop like his peers have so far.

 

[DPresidential]

Brehs...



Has there ever been a team that legit was able to boast that there starting lineup... Plus the first two guys off the bench are ALL that teams actual draft picks??

fukk w/ me real quick...

Forget the FA shyt for a moment... Imagine being able to have this starting lineup:

Frank, Tim, Knox, Mitch, KP.

And our 6th & 7th man are Trier and Dotson.

Yo...that would be some Xbox Achievement on NBA 2K MyGM mode shyt.



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@storyteller lmao at that extra lite on defense shyt about Timmy Middleton


But, I'm extremely confident that with the KP lineup, and less load, Timmy excels as a plus defender. Quote me.

 

[Bobby Lashleys eyebrows]

Absolutely agreed.

I think in the role you described, Tim could be a Middleton lite with playmaking ability when necessary.

I really think it would be a headache for opposing teams to try to stop an offense with Frank and Timmy in constant off ball movement, KP getting first dibs in the high post and Knox being given the keys to create.

That's my dream lineup with Mitch playing PF.