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Lot of smoke that the nikka was unhappy with how the org handled him. :yeshrug: Could be BS, but I'm just saying if the nikka is KD's best friend then roll out the red carpet for him. It shows a lack of awareness of the NBA as it is now and how to build a culture requires more than just "play in NYC" anymore because nikkas can just go to Brooklyn now. And Dolan has developed an intensely negative reputation with good cause. It's gonna take more than a year of having a FO and Coach that seem to be above it to get results but stuff like that is something you gotta account for now. Guys wanna play with their homies.



Pretty much our best hope really. Lets pray the nikka learns to shoot.
What smoke breh :gucci:

That nikka was loved in his short time here, seemed real cool with Fiz, and was doing an excellent job mentoring Mitchell Robinson.

He chose to stay here when we could have waived him like Wes Matthews. And he knew what the situation was with us.
 

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What smoke breh :gucci:

That nikka was loved in his short time here, seemed real cool with Fiz, and was doing an excellent job mentoring Mitchell Robinson.

He chose to stay here when we could have waived him like Wes Matthews. And he knew what the situation was with us.

So what other factors drew KD away from the Knicks, bro?
 

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He digs in more when people challenge him. I really don't know how you get him to sell outside a check for $6 billion. I do think he will be more likely to sell after yesterday but he's like Trump.

Corporations and Tourists keep that building full so fan protest ain't gonna cut it imo



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Honestly that shyt is apples and oranges to me.

There are league execs where it seems teams are fumbling over to gift bullshyt package deals and the Knicks are nowhere near the level where teams won't try to fukk them over in trades - not yet at least.

They could sign a guy like Harkless that fits the timeline, or load up on assets that they can combine with existing assets.

I'm hesitant to compare because the Knicks moves now strike me as them trying to make moves mid-season when teams are at their most desperate, not now when they're trying to reset the deck and make moves to set up other moves.

The picks they could be getting now with everything as an unknown may not be as good as they could be mid season with a team trying to get one more piece.

I'd take my chances on the desperate clinging for playoff hopes over the confident, trying to line up moved for further down the line.
 

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I actually like elfrid

This was actually my favorite off season move thus far. He plays exactly how Frank should play. A great facilitator who gets his teammates involved while being a triple double machine. People are sleeping on my boy Peyton. To tell the truth I don't know how we are going to receive a lottery pick with all these pieces we are acquiring. We could end up in the middle of the pack.
 

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Start winning games to end up in the middle of the pack?! Nah, I'm good. I fear these this FO is interested in being "competitive" in this context meaning striving for the 8th seed.
You realize that is how you attract FAs breh . That shows you can build a team and are competent .
SAS is a damn fool but the man did raise a good ass point earlier.

DAJ is KD's best friend and we treated that nikka like shyt, you think he wasn't in KD's ear about that?

You have to create a culture that shows players that you're serious about doing it and that you won't treat them like that, and I don't think even with the best FO in the world you can erase the Dolan stink away from it. You have to win to get that stink away, so basically we just have to hope we have our guys develop as best we can and maybe swing a trade for a start looking for a change of scenery off a bad and or financially hamstrung team to make a culture change.

It sucks but Dolan literally is never going away so we need to just come to terms with it, I'm a Mets fan so this shyt and the Wilpons is basically like stabbing my ass every time I get a bit of hope :russ::wow:
Well it’s on Dolan and the FO . What did they do that was so special ? They definitely overplayed their hands
 

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What smoke breh :gucci:

That nikka was loved in his short time here, seemed real cool with Fiz, and was doing an excellent job mentoring Mitchell Robinson.

He chose to stay here when we could have waived him like Wes Matthews. And he knew what the situation was with us.
:yeshrug: I saw some shyt on social media and I was simply reiterating what I had heard this morning, if there's reports about it and his happiness level then I'll rescind that point, I'm not any kind of expert on it I was just stating what I had heard earlier. No bones.
 

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Honestly that shyt is apples and oranges to me.

There are league execs where it seems teams are fumbling over to gift bullshyt package deals and the Knicks are nowhere near the level where teams won't try to fukk them over in trades - not yet at least.

They could sign a guy like Harkless that fits the timeline, or load up on assets that they can combine with existing assets.

I'm hesitant to compare because the Knicks moves now strike me as them trying to make moves mid-season when teams are at their most desperate, not now when they're trying to reset the deck and make moves to set up other moves.

The picks they could be getting now with everything as an unknown may not be as good as they could be mid season with a team trying to get one more piece.

I'd take my chances on the desperate clinging for playoff hopes over the confident, trying to line up moved for further down the line.
Honestly I think we make perfect sense to trade a bunch of the 1 & 1 guys for D'Lo once Klay comes back, it fits our timeline, fits our roster, and gives us flexibility to take on anything else if we need too. Simmons doesn't know WTF he's talking about right now.

Besides, okay so we have some bad 1 & 1's, who says we don't option literally all of them and just... do what he says we should do next off-season? It's not like it makes any fukking difference regardless of when you do it to cash in on the assets, like we're still years away. Might as well try this tact and see if it plays. :yeshrug:
 

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So what do you want? Don’t sign nobody and play these young nikkas 30+ minutes just to win 15 games with no real quality vets around them to show them the ropes and produce for the team. Just to capture a lottery pick that likely won’t be the top pick and is gonna need real development.

Do you really think you’re gonna go from bottom of the pack to top of the pack just like that?

What is wrong with striving for an 8th seed and getting the young guys playoff experience or just having them play meaningful competitive basketball thru a regular season at the very least? Making an 8th seed next season doesn’t mean we’re going to stay there. FA’s will want to come after that, the youth core will improve, we will continue to draft smart.

Exactly. Nets were seen as this scrappy ass squad despite having 20 wins and got positive coverage because of it - not the reps the Knicks have or had.

They got some pieces to help the young guys develop their games and at bare minimum play more meaningful games for longer. 30 wins won the lotto this year - fight and the league might actually reward you
 

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So what do you want?

For the young players to get the bulk of the playing time, so that the FO can assess their strengths, weaknesses, potential, fit in the macro plan and market value.

Do you really think you’re gonna go from bottom of the pack to top of the pack just like that?

No, and I did not state or imply such an argument.

What is wrong with striving for an 8th seed and getting the young guys playoff experience or just having them play meaningful competitive basketball thru a regular season at the very least?

What is wrong with this is that it's overall long term utility is low, in all likelihood an 8th seed requires playing the mediocre FA's a large amount of minutes while simultaneously undermining the minutes and development of the young players. If the Knicks can obtain an 8th seed while the youth are getting a large bulk of the playing time then I am all for it, but the likelihood of that occurring is low.

So given the potential two choices of A) Getting 22-25 wins with the youth getting the most of the playing time or B) Getting 35-40 wins with the FA getting the bulk of the minutes. I'm going with option A for the previously stated reasons.

FA’s will want to come after that, the youth core will improve, we will continue to draft smart.

This is wishful thinking and in the event that the Knicks end up striking out in 2-3 years like they did on Sunday, you have a high probability of ending up in a position where the current youth are underdeveloped, none of the blue chip 20' or 21' picks are on the Knicks roster, and celebrating a chance to get stomped out by the 76ers in the first round is the apex of Fitz era. :scust:

Like I stated before...Nah I'm good.
 

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So what other factors drew KD away from the Knicks, bro?
the knicks are under fire constantly

bk is safe

he'll dodge the pressure that comes with wearing a knicks uniform

too much potential fallout to risk being a hero & failing especially coming off a career altering injury

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