Pre-Cleveland Deshaun was better. But everyone goes to shyt in Cleveland.CJ Stroud >>>>> Lamar….. give the MVP to him
Lamar Jackson is the MVP
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Dr. Narcisse
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Idk about that. It was different cause Watson could give you 500 rushing yards on the season as well.
Damn shame at the falloff (so far)
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Ok I don’t care and it’s my opinion , and I’ll be sticking to it
Dr. Narcisse
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Cant just discount the 1200 yards rushing in Lamar's MVP year.
Mahomes is still top dog for sure. However, there's a case to be made if you swap out Hollywood Brown for Prime Antonio Brown it would be a lil more fair comp. He got to grow some elite offensive weapons. Even Andrews as good he is isnt the same level of YAC getting like Kelce.
I think for the good of the league it would be great if Lamar becomes a legit rival year in and year out.
I think the Bills getting Diggs + the heavy use of Allen getting TD runs has helped him seem closer to a rival of Mahomes despite the lack of awards, etc.
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I'm not interested in arguing the point myself, but I feel like the fairest way to look at Lamar vs Mahomes would be whatever year you feel like Mahomes had the worst core around him, other than this year. The shyt they got this season is abominable, and Kelce is basically finished. But that second worst year, that's pretty much what Lamar had around him most seasons. Id probably think it was actually last year, but NFL diehards may know better
Nah, not yet. He needs to give Miami that work next week to secure it.
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CJ Stroud >>>>> Lamar….. give the MVP to him
Dr. Narcisse
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Only thing that concerns me in the playoffs is if the weather gets poor and they have those drop issues again.
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A large part of the reason Lamar deserves MVP.
Damn Sherm 
King Kreole
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My point is that saying "Purdys stats aren't even good enough to be hyping like that" when he has arguably the best stats of any QB is ridiculous. If his stats aren't good enough then no one's are. Lamar is winning for a myriad of reasons, stats included, like every other MVP. If Lamar had 1000 less passing yards and 15 less passing TDs he wouldn't be MVP. Stats aren't the only factor but they're a necessary one.
I said his stats aren't good enough to be hyping, not that they aren't good enough to win MVP. (in a down year for QBs you can win MVP with meh stats)
Lamar Jackson's stats aren't good enough to be hyping either.
MVP QBs typically put up better numbers than both of them.
Lamar is winning off his team being the #1 seed and the H2H wins vs 49ers and Dolphins. Dude has 29 total touchdowns, that is not strong and neither are Purdy's numbers. No point in debating stats.
If Purdy had 1000 more yards and 12 more passing TDs, he'd basically have Mahomes' numbers from last year and would probably win the MVP despite losing to LJ.
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Week 19 – Lamar JacksonLet’s Go! with Tom Brady, Larry Fitzgerald and Jim Gray
Tom and Jim discuss the season coming to an end for some teams as others get ready for the playoffs. Then, Lamar Jackson of the Baltimore Ravens joins to talk about his goal of winning a Super Bowl, his relationship with Coach Harbaugh, how he’s going to handle his off week, and the moment from his younger days watching Tom Brady that he’ll never forget.
This is overstated..the NFL in 2023, is not much different than it was in 2019. There were 10 4000 yard passers this year!! Compare that to 2007 vs 2011. Or 2008 to 2012.
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Josh Allen for MVP
