Lakers offseason thread: Renovation era

[intruder]

He deserves at least a chance to properly implement his "system" and get a full training camp in....Besides he was signed to a large guaranteed contract and the Buss family aint trying to throw away money like that.

Hell even the Knicks didn't get rid of D'Antoni as soon as they wanted because they didn't want to pay him to sit at home.

It was a stupid decision to sign him to such a large contract anyone. Especially when Sloan and Brown were available. Hell Brian Shaw could have done well too and it wouldn't have been nearly as awkward of a transition.

Knicks always swear that despite their sh!tty rosters over the years some headchoach is gonna save their sh!tty franchise. They fail to realize that Riley and Van Gundy overachieved

• Don Nelson
• Isiah Thomas
• Larry Brown
• D'Antoni

All big names that failed miserably in NY


THe Mike Brown thing to me is with him and Kobe bumping heads last year I thought they would have fired him and bring in someone more Kobe friendly

 

[ComputersPutin]

Shaq Attacks Charles Barkley *LIVE* on TNT's "Inside The NBA" - YouTube

 

[SupremeAlfy]

Who says Shaqs underated!?

Thats the most dominant player ever in the NBA

 

[Street Knowledge]

He's my 3rd best center of all time after dream and Kareem. He was a monster.

The only thing is, he had more help then almost any player in history from an individual teammate standpoint

 

[Saysumthinfunnymike]

I don't think Kobe stans put Kobe as the MVP of the 3-peat.

I've seen it.

 

[blackzeus]

While Shaq was MDE, he's never one without a dominant wing player. And arguably, the dominant wing players (Kobe, Wade) were the reason why the championships were one. But for sure, he would dominate today's NBA had he been drafted in '03.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Knicks always swear that despite their sh!tty rosters over the years some headchoach is gonna save their sh!tty franchise. They fail to realize that Riley and Van Gundy overachieved

• Don Nelson
• Isiah Thomas
• Larry Brown
• D'Antoni

All big names that failed miserably in NY


THe Mike Brown thing to me is with him and Kobe bumping heads last year I thought they would have fired him and bring in someone more Kobe friendly

Actually I don't remember there being ANY reports about Kobe not liking Mike Brown. Kobe was consistently backing him publicly and behind the scenes, he was just mad about the Lakers not consulting him before hiring Brown.

The people who were bumping heads with Mike Brown were Metta, Fisher, Bynum, and to a lesser extent Barnes. All of them called Mike Brown out publicly and reportedly had beef with him in private.

 

[Skip b]

Knicks always swear that despite their sh!tty rosters over the years some headchoach is gonna save their sh!tty franchise. They fail to realize that Riley and Van Gundy overachieved

• Don Nelson
• Isiah Thomas
• Larry Brown
• D'Antoni

All big names that failed miserably in NY


THe Mike Brown thing to me is with him and Kobe bumping heads last year I thought they would have fired him and bring in someone more Kobe friendly

Kobe aint complaining about Brown at all, he gets to run isolation 90% of the time and dominate the ball, like he truly wants

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Kobe aint complaining about Brown at all, he gets to run isolation 90% of the time and dominate the ball, like he truly wants

I actually don't think he wants the ball in his hands so much anymore. He's at a point in his career where he wasn't to work off the ball a lot more. That's why he was so happy about CP3 coming to the Lakers. Working off the ball more and letting a true PG run the offense will just lengthen his career.

 

[Lakerman0834]

mike brown needs to go fukkin Jim buss dumb ass

 

[Skip b]

I actually don't think he wants the ball in his hands so much anymore. He's at a point in his career where he wasn't to work off the ball a lot more. That's why he was so happy about CP3 coming to the Lakers. Working off the ball more and letting a true PG run the offense will just lengthen his career.

Why does he have a issue with passing the reigns to Bynum then, and have Bynum all out of pocket, if he dont want the ball in his hands, the only reason he wanted an elite PG and was happy about CP3 is because he knew his ass would get easy buckets, as long as the equation equals more shots for him he's totally fine with it

 

[intruder]

Actually I don't remember there being ANY reports about Kobe not liking Mike Brown. Kobe was consistently backing him publicly and behind the scenes, he was just mad about the Lakers not consulting him before hiring Brown.

The people who were bumping heads with Mike Brown were Metta, Fisher, Bynum, and to a lesser extent Barnes. All of them called Mike Brown out publicly and reportedly had beef with him in private.

Kobe aint complaining about Brown at all, he gets to run isolation 90% of the time and dominate the ball, like he truly wants

Please highlight where i said Kobe "complained" about Mike Brown while i wipe my glasses.

Bumping heads doesnt mean complaining. Means disagreement in whatever ve it different approaches or anything. We all know Kobe wasnt happy abou the benching but thats a small matter that got blown out of proportion by the media as usual because it's Kobe and the Lakers. But it was obvious to all of us that Kobe and Bynum werent 100% on board with Brown's approaches

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Please highlight where i said Kobe "complained" about Mike Brown while i wipe my glasses.

Bumping heads doesnt mean complaining. Means disagreement in whatever ve it different approaches or anything. We all know Kobe wasnt happy abou the benching but thats a small matter that got blown out of proportion by the media as usual because it's Kobe and the Lakers. But it was obvious to all of us that Kobe and Bynum werent 100% on board with Brown's approaches

Where's the evidence of Kobe bumping heads with Mike Brown? The closest thing to that is the benching, nothing else this past season has lead me to believe that Kobe and Mike Brown were butting heads. In fact Kobe has been the main person defending Mike Brown and pointing out that the team hadn't had time to properly implement the system. I said earlier in this thread, Mike Brown was the one asking Kobe to be so ball dominant this year (due to the lack of another player who can create their own shot).


Now Bynum and Mike Brown, them muthafukkas were butting heads.

 

[Lakerman0834]

The Lakers are indeed hoping to do something bigger and bolder – and bring in someone who fits even better with the speed and athleticism of Sessions. They're just trying to determine what big, bold move truly makes sense.

It's not just about Pau Gasol, either.

Andrew Bynum might seem less likely to the entire world to be moved, but the Lakers are open to the right scenario where they can maximize his value after a season in which he showed two things: the All-Star he can be and the solid health that the Lakers are uncertain he can repeat.

The Lakers have taken steps to prepare for a Bynum trade if his value is what the Lakers have to give up in the right deal. They already know Gasol isn't the most logical fit next to Bynum – the Lakers having size but being hurt in so many speed ways – but the problem is that you simply cannot give away Gasol for promises.

Gasol is a guy who has been great – great, not just good. And in the Lakers' situation where they believe they are still close to a championship, you don't give away some proven greatness for pieces that have no likely chance of that.

The Lakers aren't going to trade Gasol just to get a high pick in the draft Thursday night, even if that kind of move meets two of their goals: getting younger and lightening their overwhelming future payroll. They still need useful talent for today next to Kobe Bryant.

So making either big big-man move with Bynum or Gasol in a way that clearly improves the Lakers for today and tomorrow is an epic challenge. The standard of success, sort of sadly, is coming away with a game-changer such as Chris Paul – the move that giveth nothing and taketh away so, so much.

 

[aixenv]

Where's the evidence of Kobe bumping heads with Mike Brown? The closest thing to that is the benching, nothing else this past season has lead me to believe that Kobe and Mike Brown were butting heads. In fact Kobe has been the main person defending Mike Brown and pointing out that the team hadn't had time to properly implement the system. I said earlier in this thread, Mike Brown was the one asking Kobe to be so ball dominant this year (due to the lack of another player who can create their own shot).


Now Bynum and Mike Brown, them muthafukkas were butting heads.

agreed, i never saw any evidence of kobe and brown beefing, bynum and brown is a well documented butting of heads so to speak

bynum openly was defiant