Lakers offseason thread: Renovation era
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When Shaq entered in 92, the great centers (Dream, Ewing, Robinson and Duaghtery) were in their primes and he handled them dudes extremely well. Now I agree that after 98, he had no peers at center except Duncan which is why IMO he dominated like he did in 3 straight finals and getting 3 finals MVPs. Going against an old Rik Smits, a weak Todd McCoullough and Dikembe (great defender with no offense) di make it easier for him but he did what he was supposed to do
I agree, Shaq is underrated and under appreciated. If he was drafted in 03 he would've put up bigger numbers with the Cavs but wouldn't have won anything either, centers need support from the wing.
So you really believe shaquille oneal is a function of the 'bad centers' he faced? That he isn't great, his competition was just poor
The Lakers would love to get Blatche
But, imo the Wiz getting Pau increases there playoffs chances dramatically and even possibly to a 6th seed imo Pau would be the 2nd best center in the East easily, and he would do fine as the 2nd option with Wall. Its the postseason where Pau struggles the most at, but in the regular season, he is fine and not as soft as he is in the postseason. Plus, as the 3rd option, he averaged 17 and 10 as a 3rd option, and in the East, he should be able to feast on the centers there except Dwight, but everyone else he should do fine against. I did wanna see the Beal and Wall combo, so hopefully whoever get MKG, we can still trade to get him. Plus, the front court with Pau, Nene and Okefor coming off the bench, plus Wesley, and the rest of the bigs, that's deep with bigs, but the Wiz needs a shooter and BEal is the perfect choice, but it seems like the Cav's are gonna pick him up
When Shaq entered in 92, the great centers (Dream, Ewing, Robinson and Duaghtery) were in their primes and he handled them dudes extremely well. Now I agree that after 98, he had no peers at center except Duncan which is why IMO he dominated like he did in 3 straight finals and getting 3 finals MVPs. Going against an old Rik Smits, a weak Todd McCoullough and Dikembe (great defender with no offense) di make it easier for him but he did what he was supposed to do
I agree, Shaq is underrated and under appreciated. If he was drafted in 03 he would've put up bigger numbers with the Cavs but wouldn't have won anything either, centers need support from the wing.
He didn't "handle" those HOF centers, he didn't stand out. He was just another great center. The whole "MDE" thing only started until AFTER those nikkaz fell off.
And Duncan isnt a center, he's a PF. And the difference between him and shaq is that Duncan actually had competetion during his prime/peak
Shaq's numbers in 1995 and his "peak" year(2000) are almost identical. It's just the centers were trash now
The Lakers would love to get Blatche
No one wants Blatche. The Wizards were literally giving him away near deadline season and no one bit. The first they offered Minnesota for Beasley they could've given for Blatche with filler if they wanted to but they didn't
They even tried to get Ty Thomas for him and neither side wanted the other's a$$hole. They're going to have to amnesty him.
And sure, Pau helps them become a decent team this year, but he's also 32(?) on what will become a bad contract. Why get involved with that...why tie up your cap space in a 30+ year old frontcourt just to be decent. That's a championship or bust move and I don't think Miami or Chicago or even Indiana takes them serious even with Pau.
I understand the Wizards want to build Wall a team but don't make the same mistakes Ferry did in Cleveland landing a bunch of temporary stopgaps instead of longterm options.
He did handle those centers,( I forgot about Zo) check the numbers. He did well against them, don't see the word handled and make it seem like Im saying he dominated them, totally different. Duncan is a 7 footer in the post so that qualifies him as a center or big man, I don't care what he is technical listed as. They were rivals for years.
Of course the MDE thing started after they fell off or retired because Shaq didn't hit his prime yet. He couldn't be called the MDE before 2000 because he didnt win anything yet also it was only his 8th year. No one can be called the best after 8 seasons, if so tell me who was labeled that.Jordan wasn't called the GOAT until he started winning rings in his 9th year, so stop it breh.
Wait Till EG Finds Out His Shaq Thread Got Merged Into The Lakers Off Season Thread 
yea Blatche is hella out of shape and was stat padding a bit in his best seasons imo but idk maybe a change of scenary can change him maybe? Besides Pau being overrated, the dude doesn't rely on any athleticism at all, all skills and doesn't have no big history of injuries holding him back, its just that he is soft. he is 32, but I'm pretty sure he will playing for a lot more years. The only knock on Pau is that he is overpaid and soft, other than that, he is straight and no other problems with him. But, I doubt the Wiz would make that move, but its a pipedream that might come true somehow
lol but, if I'm the Wiz I'm taking Beal ASAP, as he fits right in, but the Cav's look like favorites in getting him though
holidayinn21
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why did the shaq thread get merged into the laker thread?
i don't see the correlation between the two.
i don't see the correlation between the two.
Wait Till EG Finds Out His Shaq Thread Got Merged Into The Lakers Off Season Thread
WHAT THE fukk IS THIS shyt
THE MOD who did this SHOW YOURSELF.
WHAT THE fukk DOES MY THREAD HAVE TO DO WITH THE LAKERS
Mic-Nificent
I didn't eat nobody
Also Kobe was the one pushing for Bynum to be the second option. Bynum's not going to get he ball if he doesn't get good post position. Also because most of the team couldn't knock down a perimeter shot to save their life teams would just double Bynum or concentrate on denying passes into the post.
Most of the turnovers the Lakers racked up actually came from them trying to feed Bynum the ball.
Lakerman0834
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I saw fukk it wait till Olympics to trade Pau hes gonna beast in the olympics raise his stock until Kobe shyts on him and his country again