Just like Kobetards always wanna bring up Smush Parker or try their hardest to downplay Gasol like he wasn't an all-star and the thing that changed the team's fortunesLeBron peasants talk all the time about how shytty his teammates are
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Gasol was only an all star once before Kobe...
Pretend Gasol was a Top 5 PF because you hate kobe brehs.
and he "changed the teams fortunes" because it gave kobe a half competent player to play with. The Lakers were a top team in the West and the biggest surprise in the league that season even before the Pau trade, but keep leaving out the facts
That team is still better than 2011.PG: 20yo rookie Daniel Gibson. Would be D-league anywhere else, out of the league by 26, having spent his last three years bouncing on and off of the roster.
SG: 28yo Larry Hughes. Shot 40% in the regular season and 34% in the playoffs. Hughes only played 3 more injury filled half-seasons before he retired.
SF: 23yo Sasha Pavlovic. D-league anywhere else, when he left the Cavs at the age of 26 he averaged 2.6ppg the next three years and was then out of the league.
PF: 25yo Drew Gooden. Reliable 11 and 9 hustle guy.
C: 31yo Zydrunas Iglauskas. So injured at this point he could only play 25-27mpg. Had a midrange shot, but immobile and got destroyed by stronger/faster guys.
Off the bench, you have
PG: 33yo Eric Snow. Completely done, averaged 1.7ppg in the playoffs, only 22 games from retirement
SG: 30yo Damon Jones. Completely done, averaged 2.4ppg in the playoffs, only 85 games from retirement
SF: 33yo Donyell Marshall. Completely done, averaged 3.5ppg in the playoffs, only 51 games away from retirement
PF: 24yo Anderson Varejao. A 6 and 6 guy who was still 4-5 years away from his breakout season
C: 31yo Scot Pollard. Completely done, averaged 0.0ppg in the playoffs, only 22 games from retirement
Cleveland's top-10 without Lebron in 2007 is six guys who legit shouldn't even have been in the NBA, an injured Larry Hughes stinking up the arena, two hustle rebounders, and half a game of Z.
How the hell was there a roster in the NBA worse than that?
Ya'all kill me.
Varejao was a 3rd-year player averaging 6 and 6 in 2007. What do you mean, people "forget how good Varejao was"
Larry Hughes was NOT good in 2007. Hughes was HORRIBLE in 2007. After his 2006 injury Hughes was so bad some Cleveland fan started a website called, http://heylarryhughespleasestoptakingsomanybadshots.com/, an entire website dedicated to how bad Hughes shot, and it was legit popular. Hughes was supposed to be the #2 option on the Cavs and he shot 40% in the regular season and 34% in the playoffs (which was better than 2006, when he shot 32% in the playoffs). When the Cavs traded Hughes to the Knicks, he missed his first 18 shots with them before making his first one. He was a black hole of shyttiness.
In the 2006 ECSF against the Pistons, Hughes missed 3 games. Cleveland won all three. Hughes played in 4 games, scoring 9ppg on 33% shooting. Cleveland lost all four.
In the 2007 Finals against the Spurs, Hughes played in 2 games, shooting 1-10 and scoring 2 points TOTAL. Cleveland lost the two games he played in by a combined 20 points, lost the two games he missed by only 4 points combined.
Cleveland was clearly better WITHOUT Hughes than they were with him, he was that bad.
We weren't talking about which team was better
Peasants said he took the worst team in the league to the finals when he didn't
That same Cavs team he left broke the NBA losing streak record
And was the worst team in the NBA
Double down on stupidity in the face of demonstrable truth brehs
KillbertArenas
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They will have to end up taking Leff League in that trade wont they?
If Derrick gets hurt and they end up having to defend Stephanie/CP0/Russell with Leff and Jose
Jeff Teague wont be able to be traded until December since he was just signed, but i am assuming Teague/Irving will clash up to the point where they'll just trade Teague away for assets and such. His contract seems friendly enough for teams to take it too
You want some facts?Gasol was only an all star once before Kobe...
Pretend Gasol was a Top 5 PF because you hate kobe brehs.
and he "changed the teams fortunes" because it gave kobe a half competent player to play with. The Lakers were a top team in the West and the biggest surprise in the league that season even before the Pau trade, but keep leaving out the facts
Facts are the Kobe was a first round exit for 2 years in a row as "The Man"
before GasolHe missed the playoffs the year before those exits too
You weren't going anywhere without Gasol. Kobe would still have 3 titles
You said that Hughes and Varejao were good in 2007. Your opinion is invalid.
And it doesn't matter "which" awful Cavs team is the worst anyway. In the last 20 years there been five Cavs team with no Lebron on the roster, and the Cavs have pulled the #1 pick 4 out of those 5 years. The Cavs OFTEN had the worst roster without Lebron, whether you're talking 2003, 2004, 2005, 2006, 2007, 2008, 2011, 2015, whatever.
Already posted it for two different years. It's quoted just three posts above you.
Without Lebron, the 2007 team would have been 6 guys who shouldn't even have been on a roster, an injured Hughes shooting 34% and 32% in the playoffs, two hustle rebounders, and Z playing half a game. That's the whole team.
Without Lebron, the 2015 team that he took to the Finals would have had Delly and Shump as their two ballhandlers, JR and Mosgov as their leading scorers, and not a single legit NBA player left on the bench.
Which teams in 2007 or 2015 had rosters worse than those two?
Looking for the story.
Just came out a couple days ago he said he wants to finish his career in Cleveland
You want some facts?
Facts are the Kobe was a first round exit for 2 years in a row as "The Man"
He missed the playoffs the year before those exits too
You weren't going anywhere without Gasol. Kobe would still have 3 titles
Woah, Kobe lost in the first round with SMush and Kwame. Cool breh
nikka won 2 titles without 1 legit HOF (pau is only HOF bound because he's spanish) but hey lets forget about that
and if he didn't get Gasol, we would've traded for someone else. You act like we didn't have assets
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They damn made Steven A come in during his vacation 
Are these "assets" why kobe was almost traded to Chicago yet that was cancelled in the 11th hour?Woah, Kobe lost in the first round with SMush and Kwame. Cool breh
nikka won 2 titles without 1 legit HOF (pau is only HOF bound because he's spanish) but hey lets forget about that
and if he didn't get Gasol, we would've traded for someone else. You act like we didn't have assets