Kyrie Irving has asked the Cavs to trade him; Lebron blindsided by trade request

[ghostwriterx]

Since when? For the past two year we've continually heard how the Cavs have a losing record whenever Bron doesn't play. Any time the Cavs would struggle in the post season we'd hear people saying Kyrie or Love needed to step up because "Lebron can't do it all by himself". The narrative is that when the team is doing well it's because Lebron singlehandedly carried them to a victory, but when they lose it's because Lebron doesn't have enough help and his teammates didn't show up to play.

Before Lebron went back to Cleveland Kyrie was looked at as a guy that could be a franchise cornerstone. He was seen as a ridiculously talented player that was hampered by an incompetent front office, now you got people openly mocking him and saying he wont be shyt without Lebron if he leaves.

Kevin Love was seen as a legit all star caliber players and even a few (mostly white) people were calling him a top 10 player. Now he's a guy that other teams aren't even willing to take as part of a multi team deal.

Since the team was formed Kyrie and Love have regularly been rumored as parts of trades whenever the team struggles. Who wants to play with that sword dangling over their head all the fukking time?

Playing with Lebron gets you more success, but it also seemingly lowers the amount of respect players get.

You're seriously overstating how much respect Love and Kyrie had before LeBron came back.

 

[Mars]

1.Sign Rose

2.Trade Kyrie in a package deal to minny for Wiggins and Dieng

If Lebron leaves,you build around Love and Wiggins.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

His record with LeBron out the last 3 years is pretty telling as well.

Because that team is built around Lebron and his skillset. Wasn't it the exact same situation in Miami? When Bron sat out the team usually lost, even tough Bosh and Wade were on the floor? I know Wade was physically limited at times, but Bosh could still go.

 

[360Waves]

Also where did this narrative come from that "Kyrie gets no credit" when Kobe stans are STILL PUSHING that Kyrie deserved the 2016 FMVP and make it their daily goal to remind us who hit that shot in Game 7? When it is still widely regarded that the Cavs would've won in 2015 if KYRIE, the guy who supposedly "gets no credit", was present. Do you nikkas live in bizzaro world?

Only on the Coli does "Kyrie get no credit." In real life I only hear people refer to the Cavaliers success as "Bron and Kyrie." Y'all dudes do the most. Bunch of hoe ass men with hoe ass tendencies really taking everyday time out of your life to hate on successful athletes.

 

[King Karim]

Kyrie think he is holding him back, and bosh didn't have a lot of nice things to say about being Bron's teammate after the big3 in miami either.

"bron makes everybody around him better"

^^ biggest lie ever told in sports


and u can tell kevin love don't really like playing with dude either

Chris Bosh on playing with LeBron: 'It's extremely difficult and extremely frustrating'

 

[Long Live The Kane]

Trade kryie for the best collection of picks you can, try to unload tristens contract... Do everything but hold a press conference to announce you're tanking, basically make every cost cutting measure available at their disposal... Hope that LeBron becomes angry enough at wasting a year that he demands a trade...Try to leverage that into a piece that helps with the rebuild...If not, fukk it, don't trade him and chalk up losing him this summer

 

[360Waves]

In before the bush.

 

[FTBS]

Since when? For the past two year we've continually heard how the Cavs have a losing record whenever Bron doesn't play. Any time the Cavs would struggle in the post season we'd hear people saying Kyrie or Love needed to step up because "Lebron can't do it all by himself". The narrative is that when the team is doing well it's because Lebron singlehandedly carried them to a victory, but when they lose it's because Lebron doesn't have enough help and his teammates didn't show up to play.

Before Lebron went back to Cleveland Kyrie was looked at as a guy that could be a franchise cornerstone. He was seen as a ridiculously talented player that was hampered by an incompetent front office, now you got people openly mocking him and saying he wont be shyt without Lebron if he leaves.

Kevin Love was seen as a legit all star caliber players and even a few (mostly white) people were calling him a top 10 player. Now he's a guy that other teams aren't even willing to take as part of a multi team deal.

Since the team was formed Kyrie and Love have regularly been rumored as parts of trades whenever the team struggles. Who wants to play with that sword dangling over their head all the fukking time?

Playing with Lebron gets you more success, but it also seemingly lowers the amount of respect players get.

Bron has caught more shyt for being 3-5 in the Finals than Kyrie or Love have caught for being 4-23 or whatever they are without him (not to mention their lack of success before him). Kyrie has never had championship or bust season (and likely never will since he has a ring now)...that's been the last decade for Bron. There is no excuse for the team being that bad when Bron isn't playing but it's still not being put on Kyrie like that. Kyrie had multiple struggle games during this postseason and no one cared. Bron had one bad game out of like 20 and the world stopped. Kyrie took a horrible shot over Klay at the end of game 3 and no one cared. Bron making a pass to Kyle fukking Korver for a 3 and getting his eye knocked out were the big stories coming out of that game though. Bron is on another level and treated accordingly both good and bad. You can't have one without the other.

We really gonna sit here and act like Kyrie gets less respect now than he got 3 years ago? He was viewed as untouchable until he asked to be traded. Love was always overrated and not built for this current NBA and the way it is going.

 

[WMG the 2nd]

Also where did this narrative come from that "Kyrie gets no credit" when Kobe stans are STILL PUSHING that Kyrie deserved the 2016 FMVP and make it their daily goal to remind us who hit that shot in Game 7? When it is still widely regarded that the Cavs would've won in 2015 if KYRIE, the guy who supposedly "gets no credit", was present. Do you nikkas live in bizzaro world?

Only on the Coli does "Kyrie get no credit." In real life I only hear people refer to the Cavaliers success as "Bron and Kyrie." Y'all dudes do the most. Bunch of hoe ass men with hoe ass tendencies really taking everyday time out of your life to hate on successful athletes.

U can't cite corny ass Kobe stans breh their irrational and don't make up the general populati N

 

[Mic-Nificent]

You're seriously overstating how much respect Love and Kyrie had before LeBron came back.

Then why the fukk was Love constantly being talked about as leaving Minny to go be a franchise player for another team? I've always felt Love was overrated, but lets not act like there weren't people trying to argue he was a top ten player at times.

And I'm def not overstating Kyrie's rep, I'm not saying he was seen as a top 10 player or anything, but he was seen as one of the top young players in the league that you could possibly build a franchise around (which was what the Cavs were initially planning on doing).

 

[O.T.I.S.]

Championships are a team accomplishment, I'm not big on bringing them up to prop up individuals. Anything I say positive about Bron usually regards his individual statistics and accolades.

He doesn't get "all the credit" for winning or losing anything, and neither should anyone, it's a team game

And teams that play Bron ball the past decade have been among the most successful in the league

Then how come the other Allstars on Lebrons team never seem to get recognition for it



And you got ppl in this very thread shytting on the guy who averaged 25 points and 6 assists for this team while having game 7 heroics last season but they're calling him a bum because he couldn't lead a fukked up Cleveland team at 19


And teams that played Bron ball were successful? Or was it teams that have had at least 3 Allstars in a weak ass conference playing bron ball... and losing almost twice as many times as they won



There's a reason Bosh spoke against Bron ball.. as well as Love... and that Kyrie was ready to bounce right after the finals was over

 

[Jordan>>LeFrozen]

I'd love to know who helped improve myself

Kyrie is who he always was before Lebron came back.
Wade had to take a back seat
Bosh didn't play the paint as much and looked like a spot up shooter at times
Love only got worse
James Jones, who won 3 rings with him in like 6 years, still rides the bench most of the time.
JR still streaky
Iman....only god knows
Richard Jefferson?
Channing free?
Mario chambers?

 

[KOBE]

Lebron makes role players much better and increases their efficiency. He makes other all-stars into role players though and his refusal to actually play in a system makes it harder for them to play well in their role/get regular touches.

 

[Mic-Nificent]

Bron has caught more shyt for being 3-5 in the Finals than Kyrie or Love have caught for being 4-23 or whatever they are without him (not to mention their lack of success before him). Kyrie has never had championship or bust season (and likely never will since he has a ring now)...that's been the last decade for Bron. There is no excuse for the team being that bad when Bron isn't playing but it's still not being put on Kyrie like that. Kyrie had multiple struggle games during this postseason and no one cared. Bron had one bad game out of like 20 and the world stopped. Kyrie took a horrible shot over Klay at the end of game 3 and no one cared. Bron making a pass to Kyle fukking Korver for a 3 and getting his eye knocked out were the big stories coming out of that game though. Bron is on another level and treated accordingly both good and bad. You can't have one without the other.

We really gonna sit here and act like Kyrie gets less respect now than he got 3 years ago? He was viewed as untouchable until he asked to be traded. Love was always overrated and not built for this current NBA and the way it is going.

He had been brought up in potential trades in the past and recently. Didn't a report just come out that the Cavs considered moving him before he even demanding a trade? The only untouchable on the Cavs is and was Bron.

 

[Rekkapryde]