Kyrie Iriving will be the 2017-18 NBA MVP

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He's more inefficient than last year, particularly from deep.

Less ppg, Less assists, more turnovers & less freethrows as well.

Last year's IT4 absolutely dwarfs Kyries production this year by comparison.

Kyrie is playing way better defense though. Along with the rest of the team. Which is why this years Celtics are way better than last year.

Stop hating and give the man his due. He's leading the best team in the NBA right now. Something idiots like you said he could not do by always citing those stats about his record without LeBron.

Right now Kyrie has the best record in the NBA without LeBron. Let that marinate in ya mind for a minute.
 

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Speak for yourself. The lack of self-awareness is something else....

I'm getting shytted on entirely by guys who hate Lebron (except in convos where I specifically critique someone they like).

You're getting shytted on across the board.

And you dap game has stalled so much that I've been beating you by 10-to-1 ratios on some of our exchanges.


My self-awareness is informed by exterior appraisals. You appear immune to such petty data. :lolbron:
 
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I'm getting shytted on entirely by guys who hate Lebron (except in convos where I specifically critique someone they like).
You get shytted on by everyone when it comes to LeBron, not just by those who hate him.
You're getting shytted on across the board.
Because I make more enemies across the board over a whole range of topics, whereas you just simply argue about LeBron.
And you dap game has stalled so much that I've been beating you by 10-to-1 ratios on some of our exchanges.
Dap game? Dap game? I don't give a fukk about that. If I did I'd be regurgitating the same tired, casual, box-score bullshyt that you do. Daps aren't reflective of being right, they're reflective of the agenda you're pushing. There's a reason why posters don't get many "daps" for their pro-Warriors arguments on this board.

I think I gave you too much credit for thinking you knew what you're talking about, cause here you are trying to prop your opinions up by how many daps you get.

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You get shytted on by everyone when it comes to LeBron, not just by those who hate him.

Except that I always get more daps/reps than whoever I'm arguing against by a WIDE margin, so you're being horrifically self-deceptive here.



Because I make more enemies across the board over a whole range of topics, whereas you just simply argue about LeBron.

I never make extensive, detailed arguments questioning the quality of play in the 1950s and 1960s?

I never go into huge detail to pump up Duncan?

I wasn't stanning like crazy for Draymond's impact?

I didn't rip the hell out of Westbrook's stat-chasing?

I don't pump up Brandon Roy?

I haven't broken down the championship/clutch resumes of every top-10 great in NBA history?

I don't constantly point out the diluted weakness of the 1990s era?

I didn't cape for Kawhi as an A-tier player?

I haven't mocked the hell out of people who claim that Curry couldn't make it in other systems?

I didn't make an extensive post questioning Wilt's offensive dominance in the postseason?

Not to mention being involved in many of the same style-of-play arguments that you been involved in. Aren't you commenting on my center thread right now?

And that's not even bringing up some of the heated arguments I been involved in regarding NFL, college football, distance running, and Olympic sports.

You see what you want to see.



Dap game? Dap game? I don't give a fukk about that. If I did I'd be regurgitating the same tired, casual, box-score bullshyt that you do. Daps aren't reflective of being right, they're reflective of the agenda you're pushing. There's a reason why posters don't get many "daps" for their pro-Warriors arguments on this board.

I think I gave you too much credit for thinking you knew what you're talking about, cause here you are trying to prop your opinions up by how many daps you get.

:picard:

Classic Gil, once again proving that he is impervious to all opinion that originates outside of Gil himself. :lolbron:
 
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Except that I always get more daps/reps than whoever I'm arguing against by a WIDE margin, so you're being horrifically self-deceptive here.
Because a large majority (80%+) of your posts are about LeBron. Even if my arguments had half the amount of knowledge, critique, and stats but I was pro-LeBron, my daps would be through the roof. I'm typically on the opposite side of the majority when I argue for/against something. I've got A LOT of enemies on this board who either purposefully dap those who I'm arguing against, or don't dap me even when they know I'm right.
I never make extensive, detailed arguments questioning the quality of play in the 1950s and 1960s?

I never go into huge detail to pump up Duncan?

I wasn't stanning like crazy for Draymond's impact?

I didn't rip the hell out of Westbrook's stat-chasing?

I don't pump up Brandon Roy?

I haven't broken down the championship/clutch resumes of every top-10 great in NBA history?

I don't constantly point out the diluted weakness of the 1990s era?

I didn't cape for Kawhi as an A-tier player?

I haven't mocked the hell out of people who claim that Curry couldn't make it in other systems?

Not to mention being involved in many of the same style-of-play arguments that you been involved in.

And that's not even bringing up some of the heated arguments I been involved in regarding NFL, college football, distance running, and Olympic sports.

You see what you want to see.
I'd estimate all these probably make up 15% of your posts on this side of the board - the rest about LeBron. Whereas I argue about anything and everything that I have enough information/knowledge to have a credible opinion on. I break the walls of a lot shyt that is perceived to be common knowledge that folk don't pay attention to, because they're too busy regurgitating shyt that the next man is posting. I fight more one-man crusades than any other poster on this board. I could easily just be a follow-the-leader type poster on this board and my daps will be sky high, but I don't particularly care about that shyt.

I only care about digging down to the truth, and the truth isn't looked upon fondly on this board.
Classic Gil, once again proving that he is impervious to all opinion that originates outside of Gil himself. :lolbron:
@Gil Scott-Heroin typically ends up with the last laugh, not those who get all the daps.

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@The Dankster

I'll do this experiment - I'll post with the same activity rate as I normally do, but I'll post shyt that follows in line with the agendas of the majority for the next 3-4 weeks, and we can look at my post-to-dap ratio over that period and compare it to my post-to-dap ratio as it stands now.

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Four coaches voted for Bron onto the All-Defensive Team the year BEFORE he played with Kobe in the Olympics even though defense "wasn't even on his radar"?

Top-10 in the NBA in steals AND 1.1 blocks/game too without even trying to play defense? That's impressive.





The bolded is the biggest fukking joke I've seen. Westbrook hardly defends ANYONE, much less stars. Why the hell do you think that the Thunder have had to start purely defensive Andre Roberson to cover for him for the last 4 years, and Sefolosha every season before that? :gucci:

Bron DOES defend great players, all the time. He's defended Kobe in tons of games over the years, he defended Carmelo, he defended Paul Pierce in all of their battles (except when he got switched onto Rondo who was eating the Cavs alive), he defended D-Rose in the ECF in D-Rose's MVP year, he defended Durant in the regular season and their first Finals.

But there's a reason that Magic was always hidden on defense, Scottie always took the toughest defensive matchup instead of MJ, the Lakers got first Ariza and then Artest to take responsibility for defending the best perimeter player away from Kobe, and Klay/Draymond both have bigger roles on the defensive end than Curry and Durant. Any player taking the main load on offense, especially as they get older, is going to need someone else to step up on defense or they'll become a damn sieve. There is way too much being done on every play now - you can't go 40 minutes as the #1 option on both ends and expect to make it deep in the playoffs.

All I read was buttals

Bron does not have a competitive spirit on the defensive end, period

Stop equating stats w/ defense...it's an attitude
 
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I won't say Kyrie's my personal MVP favorite or anything but I will say it is hilarious to see all the Bron Stans who were shytting on Kyrie for wanting to leave Cleveland because "He's a selfish ball-hogging ISO stat-padder who can't play defense or win anything on his own" now that he's leading his new, young team to the best record in the NBA and playing the best defense of his career they're on their "W-w-w-wwell his STATS are trash compared to last year tho!!11!11"

Guess what: that's what happens when you make a concerted effort to play real defense every game instead of being a turnstile for 6 months straight then trying to "Flip the switch" in June; your offensive stats drop due to the effort and attention your devoting to defensive play. Bron's stats would be dropping just like Kyrie's are now if he'd make any attempt to be anything but a roaming matador like he has been every year since 2014.
 

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Because a large majority (80%+) of your posts are about LeBron. Even if my arguments had half the amount of knowledge, critique, and stats but I was pro-LeBron, my daps would be through the roof. I'm typically on the opposite side of the majority when I argue for/against something. I've got A LOT of enemies on this board who either purposefully dap those who I'm arguing against, or don't dap me even when they know I'm right.

That was a real quick shift from "fukk you, you get shytted on by everyone" to "fukk me, I get shytted on by everyone." :mjlol:



I'd estimate all these probably make up 15% of your posts on this side of the board - the rest about LeBron.

You argued that about threads before and I proved you decisively wrong. I'm not going to count up 3000 posts, but you wrong there too. :mjlol:



I only care about digging down to the truth, and the truth isn't looked upon fondly on this board.

@Gil Scott-Heroin typically ends up with the last laugh, not those who get all the daps.

:lolbron:

Talking about self-deception, then aggrandizing yourself in the third person? :mindblown::what::mjlol:
 
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