Kurt Angle should be a lock for everyone's list of Top 5 Greatest Wrestlers

[stro]

If your criteria is only US wrestlers that worked in mainstream promotions in the last 20 years, then yeah, Kurt has a very strong case for top 5. That's why the concensus is that's he's one of the GOATs as not a lot of people feel the need to watch an insane amount of wrestling, and there's nothing wrong with that.

But there's a shyt ton wrestling out there, you gotta be really fukking good to be top 5 if you watch a good chunk of it.

On a poll taken by the nerdiest wrestling nerds this year- were people took into account japan, mexico, england and a shyt ton of pre-90's wrestling - Kurt Angle was ranked 68



WCW Rick Rude lasted like 4 years. That's enough for top 5 ALL TIME?

Yes. God-tier. Steamboat/Rude iron man match is the GOAT wrestling match and should be something every wrestler and fan should watch. Perfectly encapsulates and explains every facet of what wrestling is, how it works, why it works, and why it is so dope when it all comes together.

That's just my personal rankings of favorites, not who I think is truly the GOAT. I love Rude's WCW run so fukking much, though.

 

[mrken12]

If your criteria is only US wrestlers that worked in mainstream promotions in the last 20 years, then yeah, Kurt has a very strong case for top 5. That's why the concensus is that's he's one of the GOATs as not a lot of people feel the need to watch an insane amount of wrestling, and there's nothing wrong with that.

But there's a shyt ton wrestling out there, you gotta be really fukking good to be top 5 if you watch a good chunk of it.

On a poll taken by the nerdiest wrestling nerds this year- were people took into account japan, mexico, england and a shyt ton of pre-90's wrestling - Kurt Angle was ranked 68



WCW Rick Rude lasted like 4 years. That's enough for top 5 ALL TIME?

His opinions are awful so I wouldn't take them seriously. I'm still laughing at him saying Rick Martel was better than Kurt Angle.

 

[stro]

Why can't y'all just let a dude like what he likes?

 

[Riley Escobar]

Because you consistently come out with the most ridiculous shyt that's solely based on a need for attention

 

[stro]

Because you consistently come out with the most ridiculous shyt that's solely based on a need for attention

This is my least favorite thing about internet discussions. Anything that doesn't match up with what you like is always trolling or trying to get attention. I run a wrestling review site. My bias for 70s-pre Attitude Era is discussed in detail there. I like what I like. It isn't trolling or looking for attention to have 1970s/80s AJPW, Dangerous Alliance era WCW, and Golden Era WWF be my favorite things to watch. I got into wrestling even pre New Gen/Nitro era. And having watched a ton of wrestling before, during, and after, I'm quite confident and positive in what I like.

I liked ROH and indie wrestling when I was 15. Closer to 30, I think it is trash and almost all of the indie stars in WWE brought the worst indie tenancies along with them from Paul London and Spanky on. I don't need to justify to you what eras of pretend fighting I enjoy most, you fukk.'


When we're at a point where people don't even have a clue at how great Rick Martel was in the 80s and consider even the idea that he was better than Kurt Angle in the 2000s to be sacrilege, I know the group I'm talking to. The bias at this site for Attitude Era on (and US/WWE exclusive) is insane.

 

[Riley Escobar]

This is my least favorite thing about internet discussions. Anything that doesn't match up with what you like is always trolling or trying to get attention. I run a wrestling review site. My bias for 70s-pre Attitude Era is discussed in detail there. I like what I like. It isn't trolling or looking for attention to have 1970s/80s AJPW, Dangerous Alliance era WCW, and Golden Era WWF be my favorite things to watch. I got into wrestling even pre New Gen/Nitro era. And having watched a ton of wrestling before, during, and after, I'm quite confident and positive in what I like.

I liked ROH and indie wrestling when I was 15. Closer to 30, I think it is trash and almost all of the indie stars in WWE brought the worst indie tenancies along with them from Paul London and Spanky on. I don't need to justify to you what eras of pretend fighting I enjoy most, you fukk.'


When we're at a point where people don't even have a clue at how great Rick Martel was in the 80s and consider even the idea that he was better than Kurt Angle in the 2000s to be sacrilege, I know the group I'm talking to. The bias at this site for Attitude Era on (and US/WWE exclusive) is insane.

When you say shyt like "wrestlers should actively start taking shyt-tons of steroids again" and "any Attitude Era match that didn't have Austin, D'Lo Brown or X-Pac in it was awful" then yes, you're either trolling or trying to get attention.

Pick one.

 

[stro]

I have never said anything here that is trolling or trying to get attention. Attitude Era was dog shyt besides a handful of dudes. I stand by that.

I enjoy the bygone era when dudes were freaks of nature and larger than life instead of normal looking dudes like Daniel Bryan, Sami Zayn, and Kevin Owens (all of whom I've followed their entire careers and have very much enjoyed most of their work). If my choice is "average looking guys you might see a whole foods or a bar" and "freaks of nature", I'm going for the freaks every time, because I was first introduced to wrestling in an era of larger than life super hero types instead of guys you can relate to types.

I have zero issue with fake pro athletes taking steroids. I have zero issue every day people taking steroids/HGH. Steroids are bad for you. So is slamming your body on a mat made out of metal and plywood for a living. If dudes (or ladies) want to get on the gear, they're adults and know the risks. I personally know people who took steroids, who weren't athletes, and did it just to feel good about themselves. They were adults. They knew the risks, and it made them feel better about themselves and perform better at what they wanted to perform better at and stayed healthy and happy. Who am I to say, "No, you can't do that"?

 

[King P]

For what it's worth, my personal Top 5 (in no particular order except #1)

Bret Hart
Randy Savage
Kurt Angle
Chris Benoit
Ricky Steamboat

Dynamite Kid, Dean Malenko, Mr. Perfect, Hakushi, Daniel Bryan, Eddie Guerrero, Chris Jericho, Rick Rude, Bob Backlund, and Verne Gagne are up there for me as well.

 

[mrken12]

When you say shyt like "wrestlers should actively start taking shyt-tons of steroids again" and "any Attitude Era match that didn't have Austin, D'Lo Brown or X-Pac in it was awful" then yes, you're either trolling or trying to get attention.

Pick one.

I remember when he said that dumb shyt about the steroids. Messiah has done a terrible job of hiding his identity.

 

[Jmare007]

His opinions are awful so I wouldn't take them seriously. I'm still laughing at him saying Rick Martel was better than Kurt Angle.

Actually I can see a case for Martel being the better wrestler if you take into account his AWA and Portland run. It's at least a discussion

 

[Mr.Moon]

Best 5 Wrestlers are =

1. Kurt Angle
2. Bryan Danielson
3. Shinzuke Nakamura
4. Claudio Castagnoli
5. Bret Hart / Benoit / AJ Styles / Rollins / El Generico / ...

The best complete wrestler and Superstar is Kurt Angle.

 

[mrken12]

Actually I can see a case for Martel being the better wrestler if you take into account his AWA and Portland run. It's at least a discussion

We're not talking about a run. We're talking about overall career. Martel isn't even close.

 

[Jmare007]

We're not talking about a run. We're talking about overall career. Martel isn't even close.

It depends on criteria breh. Martel's peak lasted like 10 years if you take into account his time in Portland until he became The Model, that's not a short run. Hell, Angle's whole career lasted like 15 years.

As an overall star then yeah, Angle smokes him because he's more current and even though Martel had some success in the territories, he wasn't on the elite level of stardom. Kurt is indeed an icon.

But if you base the criteria in pure in ring action, then I can see the argument for Martel, Angle's style isn't for everybody. Neither is Martel's for that matter, but he has enough of resume for the comparison to not be ridiculous

 

[mrken12]

It depends on criteria breh. Martel's peak lasted like 10 years if you take into account his time in Portland until he became The Model, that's not a short run. Hell, Angle's whole career lasted like 15 years.

As an overall star then yeah, Angle smokes him because he's more current and even though Martel had some success in the territories, he wasn't on the elite level of stardom. Kurt is indeed an icon.

But if you base the criteria in pure in ring action, then I can see the argument for Martel, Angle's style isn't for everybody. Neither is Martel's for that matter, but he has enough of resume for the comparison to not be ridiculous

There is no argument. No wrestling historian is having Rick Martel in their top 10 let alone their top 5. And they damn sure aren't ranking Martel over Angle in any capacity.

 

[Notorious 1 E.Y.E.]

I heard he was a redneck bully type, so f_ck him.

He was