Kryptonian Vs Saiyan - What would you rather be?

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Who has Superman beaten in impressive fashion? Name me some names?

Ok.

Before I do this however, tell me what you find to be "impressive" so I have something to build off of. I could list a bunch of names of characters you have never heard of and that you might outright dismiss because of that. I would just like to know what exactly would impress you before I can give you an impressive list.


Doomsday battle pales in comparsion to any of Goku's finishes.

You know Superman has fought Doomsday multiple times, right? The first time they fought and it was a "draw" even tho Superman was fatigued.



In the Dark Knight Returns, Batman stuns Superman with electricity dawg
He also drops Superman with a PUNCH, and thats before green arrow hits him with the kyrponite arrow.

This is Batman with prep-time. A guy that knows Superman better than everyone and specifically studied him and how to take him down. Also keep in mind that story it out of continuity.

Goku always fought against impossible foes, they will merk superman. Every person goku ever fought had all superman's abilities plus they knew how to fight.

If they were impossible, Goku wouldn't have beaten them, now would he? :smugbiden:


I would argue none of them were as tough or durable as Superman, but thats another debate....


It's a fact Batman is better with the hands than Superman, if he had a super strength he'd beat the shyt out of superman easily.


But then Superman wouldn't have to hold back as much. Like he does every time. :smugbiden:


Goku is an elite martial artist with cosmic strength, superman don't stand a chance.

Elite martial artist I agree with...

but Cosmic strength?!?:heh: You sure about that?

What's the heaviest thing Goku has lifted?


Also Goku can instant transmission Superman to King Kai's planet, where he won't have the benefits of the yellow sun, and kick his ass for all eternity,


You do know Superman stores all the energy he absorbs. One thing I definately believe is that if it goes down to a slugfest or an endurance competition, Superman would definately take the W.
 
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Ok.

Before I do this however, tell me what you find to be "impressive" so I have something to build off of. I could list a bunch of names of characters you have never heard of and that you might outright dismiss because of that. I would just like to know what exactly would impress you before I can give you an impressive list.




You know Superman has fought Doomsday multiple times, right? The first time they fought and it was a "draw" even tho Superman was fatigued.





This is Batman with prep-time. A guy that knows Superman better than everyone and specifically studied him and how to take him down. Also keep in mind that story it out of continuity.



If they were impossible, Goku wouldn't have beaten them, now would he? :smugbiden:


I would argue none of them were as tough or durable as Superman, but thats another debate....





But then Superman wouldn't have to hold back as much. Like he does every time. :smugbiden:




Elite martial artist I agree with...

but Cosmic strength?!?:heh: You sure about that?

What's the heaviest thing Goku has lifted?





You do know Superman stores all the energy he absorbs. One thing I definately believe is that if it goes down to a slugfest or an endurance competition, Superman would definately take the W.

Okay just for arguments sake, because I'm getting tired of talking about this.

Lets say Superman can lift more than Goku, lets say he can beat Goku in 40 yard dash.

What that shyt gotta do with fighting.

Superman cannot lay a finger on Goku because of technique alone.

He'll Anderson Silva this guy.

GOKU ENJOYS FIGHTING. Superman does not.

If electricity can stun superman, then Goku can scramble his brains.

I'll give you this. Superman can beat Goku ain't the very beginning at DBZ. Once he lands on Namek, Goku at that level will beat Superman.
 

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Cool thing about goku is that he always gets stronger. If they went passed GT dude would be at SSJ5-6 and basically a God
 

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Kame Senin destroyed the moon....but for some reason Goku can't nuke a planet? :russ:
 

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Okay just for arguments sake, because I'm getting tired of talking about this.

We can continue this later if you want...


Lets say Superman can lift more than Goku, lets say he can beat Goku in 40 yard dash.

What that shyt gotta do with fighting.

Superman cannot lay a finger on Goku because of technique alone.

Thing is, Superman is at least as fast as Goku, if not faster and has shown the ability to fight at these speeds. Peep this... it takes sunlight (light speed) 8 minutes to reach Earth. Superman flew to the sun, beat up Wonder Woman and flew BACK to Earth and the total time of all of this was 1 minute and 54 seconds. that is 4 times the speed of light. We've never seen Goku go that fast before. And definately not in a fight.

Superman explicitly hits the speed of light. Superman v2 #191
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/flight/superman191c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/flight/superman191d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/flight/superman191e.jpg




He'll Anderson Silva this guy.

GOKU ENJOYS FIGHTING. Superman does not.

If electricity can stun superman, then Goku can scramble his brains.


I saw Krillin hurt Goku by throwing a rock.

A rock.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JyLEVQeAQuM]DBZ - Krillin throws rock at Goku [Remastered] - YouTube[/ame]



I'll give you this. Superman can beat Goku ain't the very beginning at DBZ. Once he lands on Namek, Goku at that level will beat Superman.


I believe Superman to be physically stronger and tougher than ANY version of Goku. The strongest version of Goku (SSJ4) struggled to lift a city block (maybe not even that much). See here:






Meanwhile, HERE we have Superman not only duplicating the feat, but doin it with a larger object with ease:


Lifts a magically animated mountain into space. The creature was apparently large enough to crush most of Metropolis in one step (first scan gives an idea of scale). Action Comics #585
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/ActionComics585b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/ActionComics585c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/ActionComics585d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/ActionComics585e.jpg



Would you honestly say Goku is even in the league of Superman physically after seeing this? And if so, let me know I can get more feats...
 
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We can continue this later if you want...




Thing is, Superman is at least as fast as Goku, if not faster and has shown the ability to fight at these speeds. Peep this... it takes sunlight (light speed) 8 minutes to reach Earth. Superman flew to the sun, beat up Wonder Woman and flew BACK to Earth and the total time of all of this was 1 minute and 54 seconds. that is 4 times the speed of light. We've never seen Goku go that fast before. And definately not in a fight.

Superman explicitly hits the speed of light. Superman v2 #191
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/flight/superman191c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/flight/superman191d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Speed/flight/superman191e.jpg







I saw Krillin hurt Goku by throwing a rock.

A rock.

DBZ - Krillin throws rock at Goku [Remastered] - YouTube






I believe Superman to be physically stronger and tougher than ANY version of Goku. The strongest version of Goku (SSJ4) struggled to lift a city block (maybe not even that much). See here:

GT Goku and the City - YouTube




Meanwhile, HERE we have Superman not only duplicating the feat, but doin it with a larger object with ease:


Lifts a magically animated mountain into space. The creature was apparently large enough to crush most of Metropolis in one step (first scan gives an idea of scale). Action Comics #585
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/ActionComics585b.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/ActionComics585c.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/ActionComics585d.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Strength/lifting/ActionComics585e.jpg



Would you honestly say Goku is even in the league of Superman physically after seeing this? And if so, let me know I can get more feats...

Man for one the shyt with Krillen was comic relief, Goku wasn't hurt
Then the second, he didn't struggle, he grunts whenever he does anything thats DBZ, and it the end he was relieved the people were safe.

Further more, I already conceded the fact Superman can lift more than Goku, he can't fight better than Goku. He hasn't faced stronger opponents than Goku.

Superman needs to work for FEMA, and leave ass kicking to the professionals.

Once again Batman dropped him with a punch in a graphic novel.

Let's not even go to animated series, where Batman hip tossed dude like Razor Ramon did 1 2 3 Kid back in the day.

A super saiyan ki blasts will incinerate superman, or at least overload his cells.

You underestimate how powerful the ki blasts our in DBZ, if the fighter doesn't have his guard up or is paying attention they are DEADLY even when coming from a weaker opponent.
 

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Saiyan because Superman is full of shyt, its one thing to have a character with a power here or there but the shyt they pull out of their ass to make Superman untouchable is :smh: status.
 
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I've seen all of Dragonball and Dragonball Z but I can't think of many feats of physical strength displayed by Goku outside of fighting. How many tonnes we reckon he's lifting?
 

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Lol, I'm literally learning more about Superman the more research I do, this dude's feats are ridic man... :snoop:


Look, this is Superman pulling the literal equivilent of training in 10^22 times gravity... Thats 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 times gravity... and he's just chillin...

Using alternating blasts of heat vision and freeze breath, Superman causes a white dwarf star to expand and contract, producing more than a planet’s worth of gravity – which he endures with no problem. Adventures Of #618
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy Feats/adventuresof618c.jpg
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Man for one the shyt with Krillen was comic relief, Goku wasn't hurt

He said "OWWWWW" man and held his head... :obama:

Then the second, he didn't struggle, he grunts whenever he does anything thats DBZ, and it the end he was relieved the people were safe.

Further more, I already conceded the fact Superman can lift more than Goku, he can't fight better than Goku. He hasn't faced stronger opponents than Goku.

I would agree Superman is not a better fighter than Goku, however Goku has never faced an opponent stronger than Darkseid.


Superman needs to work for FEMA, and leave ass kicking to the professionals.

Once again Batman dropped him with a punch in a graphic novel.

Let's not even go to animated series, where Batman hip tossed dude like Razor Ramon did 1 2 3 Kid back in the day.

A super saiyan ki blasts will incinerate superman, or at least overload his cells.

Why? It wouldn't be anything he hasn't shrugged off in the past....

Ahem...

The hat-trick of Green Lanterns… Superman tanks Hal Jordan’s explicitly intended-to-kill blast. Superman/Batman [URL=http://www.the-coli.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 9[/URL]
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/supermanbatman29a.jpg
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Superman shrugs off not one, not two, but three separate doses of Darkseid’s Omega Effect. Adventures Of #595
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/adventuresof595a.jpg
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Superman quite literally laughs off being struck by lightning. Adventures Of #440
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/adventuresof440a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Durability/blasts/adventuresof440b.jpg






You underestimate how powerful the ki blasts our in DBZ, if the fighter doesn't have his guard up or is paying attention they are DEADLY even when coming from a weaker opponent.

I know the strongest Ki blast we have seen in DragonBall Z was enough to destroy planets and potentially galaxies.

I have seen Superman do the same and he didn't have to charge up...

Splits one of Saturn’s moons in two. Also note that he also flies there from Earth in approximately four minutes. My astrology isn’t great but I believe that’s above light-speed. Superman: Lex2000
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy Feats/Superman-Lex2000a.jpg



Superman pushes a miniature (but growing) sun and multiple planets orbiting it. Hard to gauge exactly how uber this is, decide for yourselves. Trinity #2
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy Feats/Trinity02a.jpg
http://i1007.photobucket.com/albums/af191/lgu88/Superman/Crazy Feats/Trinity02b.jpg
 
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