Krayzie Bone - Thug Mentality 1999.......15 Years Later

[Wacky D]

The album sold but If u watch the thug mentality video flesh is with bone instead of bizzy. And bizzy not on the album. I think that's where the jealousy started. Then layzie (the leader) basically forced krayzie to do btnh resurrection while he was touring his album. I forgot where the interview is. He broke it down.

layzie cant force krayzie to do anything.

ruthless and/or relativity forced krayzie & wish bone off the road by cancelling krayzie's remaining tour dates and they stopped promoting TM99. all in an effort to get krayzie & wish on the ressurrection album, which i guess they wanted done by a certain time cuz that chit came out not long afterwards.

all cuz they needed krayzie's hooks.

how is Layzie the leader tho? i always pictured Krayzie as the leader then Lay, Wish, Bozzy doesn't count cos he's so fukkin crazy anyway

layzie was indeed the leader. its his group and mo thugs was always his label.

krayzie was the leader in the studio tho.

 

[Wacky D]

I was waiting for someone to catch that
Like I said though...I'm bowing out gracefully...

whats you think of ASU in the booth?

 

[mobbinfms]

whats you think of ASU in the booth?

???

 

[Wacky D]

What marked the end then? I remember this album coming and going.

as for the bolded, i see what you mean.

they didnt drop a single in the summer, basically going 3-4 months before droppin a 2nd single. then when they finally dropped it and the album started to pick up again, it wasnt long until the label cancelled his tour and stopped promoting it because they wanted kray & wish in the studio for the bone album.

album shouldve went double at least.

 

[Wacky D]

???

the rap city vid in the OP.

 

[Leti Cook]

I gotta go back and fukk with this. For some reason, the only Krayzie Bone solo I really fukked with was "Talk to myself" from his 2nd album and that's about it. I still jam that shyt when I'm smoking. I don't know how the hell I missed Thug Mentality. I remember the video, blanking on ever hearing the album.

Layzie was always my favorite but that LBurna shyt was !!!!!!!!!! fukked up my Layzie better than Krayzie agenda something awful back in high school. nikkas was frying me. fukk was I thinking?

 

[Wacky D]

Layzie was always my favorite but that LBurna shyt was !!!!!!!!!! fukked up my Layzie better than Krayzie agenda something awful back in high school. nikkas was frying me. fukk was I thinking?

ruthless sabotaged layzie's album. kinda like how they did bizzy 1st joint.

i liked layzie's 1st album alot. even tho it was sloppy & sounded cheap.

 

[Ronnie Lott]

layzie cant force krayzie to do anything.

ruthless and/or relativity forced krayzie & wish bone off the road by cancelling krayzie's remaining tour dates and they stopped promoting TM99. all in an effort to get krayzie & wish on the ressurrection album, which i guess they wanted done by a certain time cuz that chit came out not long afterwards.

all cuz they needed krayzie's hooks.



layzie was indeed the leader. its his group and mo thugs was always his label.

krayzie was the leader in the studio tho.

Layzie was not the leader

 

[Wacky D]

Layzie was not the leader

yes he was dog. at least back then.

the rest of them will tell you the same.

its HIS group. the bone name and all that.

 

[Abstract83]

layzie cant force krayzie to do anything.

ruthless and/or relativity forced krayzie & wish bone off the road by cancelling krayzie's remaining tour dates and they stopped promoting TM99. all in an effort to get krayzie & wish on the ressurrection album, which i guess they wanted done by a certain time cuz that chit came out not long afterwards.

all cuz they needed krayzie's hooks.



layzie was indeed the leader. its his group and mo thugs was always his label.

krayzie was the leader in the studio tho.

Here's part of the interview with Krayzie addressing everything with Bizzy and Ressurection. The whole shyt is hilarious.



And like, my problem came into play – this is the only problem that I had with the whole Bizzy situation – when we first did our solo albums. Bizzy put his solo album out. It did what it was going to do. Cool. I didn’t even initiate the whole solo thing, and Layzie backed him on it because Layzie came to us and was like, “Man, I think if we let him go out here and let him do a solo album he’ll get that out his system.” So I was like, alright, cool, and they was like, okay. So [Layzie], “I’m electing you to go second.” I didn’t say I was going out next. Dudes in the group nominated me to go second because I lived in the studio. So I already had solo songs recorded while I was still working on all these Bone projects. You know, so it was like, since you already got music done you should go next. And I was like, cool, I mean, I’m cool with that.

So with that being said, once the album was released it was all this hype. Like, “Bizzy’s about to come out, he’s about to be on top of the world, he’s about to sell more than Michael Jackson”, this and that, this and that, he’s about to be a star. And then when the album came out, it didn’t live up to the hype. So, to me, that was a major blow, and it made it even harder for him to come back and humble himself to us. So then when I started working on my album, and my album came out and it was successful, and it blew up, and I was out on tour and I had all this stuff going – You know, I’m out on the road one day, promoting my album, it was just getting hot, we was moving in to the second single, “Paper”, which you know the first single was a hit, and I get a call while I’m on the road from Ruthless Records, from Tomica. And um (corrects himself) – no, no, no, no – I actually got a call from Layzie and Bizzy while I was on the road. I’m like, wow, I ain’t talked to this dude Bizzy – this is a kind of strange call. They were like, “You know, we just wanted to let you know that we started working on the next album, which is called Resurrection.”

AllHipHop.com: Right, and that’s why you’re not on it, at least like you should be.

KB: Right, it was like, “We already started working on the next album, and we feel like you need to come back and get in on this album.” I’m like, “Hold on. Dawg. What are you talking about? Don’t y’all see I’m in the middle of promoting my album that just came out?” I’m in the middle of this, I’m like, “You had a chance to do everything you had to do for your album, so just because it didn’t work out, y’all trying to come in and cut me short now, right?” You know, so I guess they went in and the got Ruthless Records behind them, Tomica behind them, and you know, everybody was trying to stop what I was doing.

AllHipHop.com: Well, a Bone album will always supersede a solo album, right?

KB: Right, and they were like um…How I ended the conversation with Layzie and Bizzy, I’m like, “Dawg, I’m out here promoting my album. You had the opportunity to do yours, I should have the right to finish promoting mine and milk what I can out of this album.” And they were like, “Okay, don’t worry about it. What we’re going to to do is, we’re going to record this album without you.” I was like, “What?! Y’all going record the album without me. Okay, fine. Talk to y’all later.” Hung up the phone.

Two weeks later, I get a call from the executives at Ruthless Records telling me that I was going to have to cut my album short. Because at the time, Tomica had the right to cut that album short if she wanted to. They were telling me I had to cut my album short so I was like man, what are y’all talking about? I was furious! They tried to bring it to me like, “The album is not sounding the way it usually sounds without your involvement.” Just basically trying to pump me up, like I don’t see what they’re trying to do, you know what I’m saying? Like, oh, y’all need me? But I was upset about it. All that lil stuff they was doing was not working on me. They had different people call me saying it’s just not sounding the same, the guys need you in there on it. I was basically backed up against the wall, I had no choice, because they told the record company, Relativity Records at the time, that they wanted to cut it short. So I was upset about that. And that’s the problem I had. And that ain’t right, because dude had his chance.

Like, he had all this hype, he was playing the group like he was better than us at the time. And all this, you know – sticking the record label up just to do interviews with us. (As Bizzy): “If y’all want me to do an interview with Bone, y’all got to pay me this and that. AND…I need to be on a separate couch.” This is the kind of stuff that was going on. I’m like, man, who do this dude think he – man, it’s been plenty of times that we was about to jump on this dude. Seriously. Seriously. Because the way he was trying to play us was like he above us. You know, and it was crazy. That’s the only personal thing that I had with him throughout our whole career. Everything else had to do with the way he was doing Bone. Everything else. So that’s how that whole thing played out, as far as that situation, that Krayzie and Bizzy Bone thing. I mean, people could have took it like animosity, but once I got over that, I didn’t really let that stand in the way I went into the studio to record albums. I came into the studio to get on the songs and I wasn’t feeling half the songs. That’s why I wasn’t on a lot of the songs, because I was like, dawg, this ain’t what we do.

AllHipHop.com: On Resurrection, really?

KB: I mean, a lot of songs was changed, when I came in. I’m talking about, a lot of the songs that I wasn’t on, they were kind of done already, and it was like, I didn’t really touch none of those songs because I didn’t really hear none of them. But when I came to the studio they were feeding me all new tracks. Like, “Here, put hooks on this. Do this and do that.” So like, I really didn’t hear those songs. Those songs came into the mix when it was time to put all the songs together: ”Okay, what do we want to put out?” So I was like, man, it’s whatever, I wasn’t having too much input in this album anyway, so I ain’t mad and I really don’t care.

 

[Wacky D]

Here's part of the interview with Krayzie addressing everything with Bizzy and Ressurection. The whole shyt is hilarious.



And like, my problem came into play – this is the only problem that I had with the whole Bizzy situation – when we first did our solo albums. Bizzy put his solo album out. It did what it was going to do. Cool. I didn’t even initiate the whole solo thing, and Layzie backed him on it because Layzie came to us and was like, “Man, I think if we let him go out here and let him do a solo album he’ll get that out his system.” So I was like, alright, cool, and they was like, okay. So [Layzie], “I’m electing you to go second.” I didn’t say I was going out next. Dudes in the group nominated me to go second because I lived in the studio. So I already had solo songs recorded while I was still working on all these Bone projects. You know, so it was like, since you already got music done you should go next. And I was like, cool, I mean, I’m cool with that.

So with that being said, once the album was released it was all this hype. Like, “Bizzy’s about to come out, he’s about to be on top of the world, he’s about to sell more than Michael Jackson”, this and that, this and that, he’s about to be a star. And then when the album came out, it didn’t live up to the hype. So, to me, that was a major blow, and it made it even harder for him to come back and humble himself to us. So then when I started working on my album, and my album came out and it was successful, and it blew up, and I was out on tour and I had all this stuff going – You know, I’m out on the road one day, promoting my album, it was just getting hot, we was moving in to the second single, “Paper”, which you know the first single was a hit, and I get a call while I’m on the road from Ruthless Records, from Tomica. And um (corrects himself) – no, no, no, no – I actually got a call from Layzie and Bizzy while I was on the road. I’m like, wow, I ain’t talked to this dude Bizzy – this is a kind of strange call. They were like, “You know, we just wanted to let you know that we started working on the next album, which is called Resurrection.”

AllHipHop.com: Right, and that’s why you’re not on it, at least like you should be.

KB: Right, it was like, “We already started working on the next album, and we feel like you need to come back and get in on this album.” I’m like, “Hold on. Dawg. What are you talking about? Don’t y’all see I’m in the middle of promoting my album that just came out?” I’m in the middle of this, I’m like, “You had a chance to do everything you had to do for your album, so just because it didn’t work out, y’all trying to come in and cut me short now, right?” You know, so I guess they went in and the got Ruthless Records behind them, Tomica behind them, and you know, everybody was trying to stop what I was doing.

AllHipHop.com: Well, a Bone album will always supersede a solo album, right?

KB: Right, and they were like um…How I ended the conversation with Layzie and Bizzy, I’m like, “Dawg, I’m out here promoting my album. You had the opportunity to do yours, I should have the right to finish promoting mine and milk what I can out of this album.” And they were like, “Okay, don’t worry about it. What we’re going to to do is, we’re going to record this album without you.” I was like, “What?! Y’all going record the album without me. Okay, fine. Talk to y’all later.” Hung up the phone.

Two weeks later, I get a call from the executives at Ruthless Records telling me that I was going to have to cut my album short. Because at the time, Tomica had the right to cut that album short if she wanted to. They were telling me I had to cut my album short so I was like man, what are y’all talking about? I was furious! They tried to bring it to me like, “The album is not sounding the way it usually sounds without your involvement.” Just basically trying to pump me up, like I don’t see what they’re trying to do, you know what I’m saying? Like, oh, y’all need me? But I was upset about it. All that lil stuff they was doing was not working on me. They had different people call me saying it’s just not sounding the same, the guys need you in there on it. I was basically backed up against the wall, I had no choice, because they told the record company, Relativity Records at the time, that they wanted to cut it short. So I was upset about that. And that’s the problem I had. And that ain’t right, because dude had his chance.

Like, he had all this hype, he was playing the group like he was better than us at the time. And all this, you know – sticking the record label up just to do interviews with us. (As Bizzy): “If y’all want me to do an interview with Bone, y’all got to pay me this and that. AND…I need to be on a separate couch.” This is the kind of stuff that was going on. I’m like, man, who do this dude think he – man, it’s been plenty of times that we was about to jump on this dude. Seriously. Seriously. Because the way he was trying to play us was like he above us. You know, and it was crazy. That’s the only personal thing that I had with him throughout our whole career. Everything else had to do with the way he was doing Bone. Everything else. So that’s how that whole thing played out, as far as that situation, that Krayzie and Bizzy Bone thing. I mean, people could have took it like animosity, but once I got over that, I didn’t really let that stand in the way I went into the studio to record albums. I came into the studio to get on the songs and I wasn’t feeling half the songs. That’s why I wasn’t on a lot of the songs, because I was like, dawg, this ain’t what we do.

AllHipHop.com: On Resurrection, really?

KB: I mean, a lot of songs was changed, when I came in. I’m talking about, a lot of the songs that I wasn’t on, they were kind of done already, and it was like, I didn’t really touch none of those songs because I didn’t really hear none of them. But when I came to the studio they were feeding me all new tracks. Like, “Here, put hooks on this. Do this and do that.” So like, I really didn’t hear those songs. Those songs came into the mix when it was time to put all the songs together: ”Okay, what do we want to put out?” So I was like, man, it’s whatever, I wasn’t having too much input in this album anyway, so I ain’t mad and I really don’t care.

lol.

yea thats the interview.

and im watching that rap city episode right now. i aint know TM99 went platinum in 3 weeks........and so the reason it took them months to put out a 2nd single was because of the loud/relativity merger.

krayzie couldnt catch a break.

 

[Leti Cook]

ruthless sabotaged layzie's album. kinda like how they did bizzy 1st joint.

i liked layzie's 1st album alot. even tho it was sloppy & sounded cheap.

i tried so hard to like that album. At least I got a good weed song out of it

roll up that hyyyyyydrroooooooooo

 

[Wacky D]

i tried so hard to like that album. At least I got a good weed song out of it

roll up that hyyyyyydrroooooooooo

yea, i can see why someone wouldnt like it.

but that was some powerful music.

 

[Wacky D]

BTNHResurrection went plat i think and according to wiki it went to #2 on the top 200 but that was also the album that Krayzie wasn't really a part of too much, i think he's mainly on hooks anyway. they have always been popular but the problems inside the group really started to take it's toll around that album. i don't know where or how they got wiped from history as far as magazines & tv shows and award recognition.

real talk, im not surprised that they got wiped out of history.

the industry was always throwing shade at them. jipping them out of awards, half-ass acknowledging them, half-ass magazine ratings.

bone was always the peoples champions. they used to keep the viewer request countdowns & shows on lock and be #1 for months. but usually those same videos would not be #1 on the channel-programmed countdowns. same with radio - up here at least. they used to pull the same chit, until they eventually stopped playing them altogether. even when they were still amongst the biggest names & sellers in the game.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

and what was that noise he did on somehow , some way?