Kotaku: The console wars are over and nobody really won.

[IsThatBrothaMouzone?]

Seems like there are 2 different arguments in here.

Who "won" this console generation based on installed base/users etc.

The other argument seems to focus on what that means going forward. Sony stans say Xbox is done because PS5 dances circles around it with sales. Xbox stans say Xbox has already pivoted and Sony is playing catchup.

Seems like both are true. Sony won if we're talking console sales. Xbox...well really M$ won in terms of (perhaps) being better equipped for the future direction of gaming. We'll see who is right.

Either way, this whole generation felt flat regardless of who won. Nintendo is still pushing more units than either Xbox or PS5. Damn near everyone has a Switch and then PC/Xbox/PS5 for grown-up gaming.

 

[The Mad Titan]

Seems like there are 2 different arguments in here.

Who "won" this console generation based on installed base/users etc.

The other argument seems to focus on what that means going forward. Sony stans say Xbox is done because PS5 dances circles around it with sales. Xbox stans say Xbox has already pivoted and Sony is playing catchup.

Seems like both are true. Sony won if we're talking console sales. Xbox...well really M$ won in terms of (perhaps) being better equipped for the future direction of gaming. We'll see who is right.

Either way, this whole generation felt flat regardless of who won. Nintendo is still pushing more units than either Xbox or PS5. Damn near everyone has a Switch and then PC/Xbox/PS5 for grown-up gaming.

Spot on

 

[Rekkapryde]

 

[winb83]

Seems like there are 2 different arguments in here.

Who "won" this console generation based on installed base/users etc.

The other argument seems to focus on what that means going forward. Sony stans say Xbox is done because PS5 dances circles around it with sales. Xbox stans say Xbox has already pivoted and Sony is playing catchup.

Seems like both are true. Sony won if we're talking console sales. Xbox...well really M$ won in terms of (perhaps) being better equipped for the future direction of gaming. We'll see who is right.

Either way, this whole generation felt flat regardless of who won. Nintendo is still pushing more units than either Xbox or PS5. Damn near everyone has a Switch and then PC/Xbox/PS5 for grown-up gaming.

I think we have a lot of millennials here and millennials see the console world as it was when we were growing up. There really isn't much of a prize for winning the console wars. The reality is Sony and Microsoft were fighting for a piece of the same 180 million or so customers and a market where the only real growth is coming from microtransactions and charging people more for games and hardware.

The walled gardens millennials grew up with instead of bolstering the companies are now limiting them. Granted failure pushed them there but Microsoft realized this and kicked the walls down. Sony fanboys might mock them today but as time goes on expect Sony to do the same. It's not that they'll abandon home consoles it's just that there's limited growth to be had there. I don't think Sony can acquire much from Xbox customer base. Many will go straight to PC, many will stay with whatever Xbox becomes, and a decent portion of them probably already own PlayStation consoles anyway.

 

[Jaguar93]

Join PC gang bruhs

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

All this because of forza horizon 5

 

[Pressure]

All this because of forza horizon 5

I know right

 

[gurf]

Seems like there are 2 different arguments in here.

Who "won" this console generation based on installed base/users etc.

The other argument seems to focus on what that means going forward. Sony stans say Xbox is done because PS5 dances circles around it with sales. Xbox stans say Xbox has already pivoted and Sony is playing catchup.

Seems like both are true. Sony won if we're talking console sales. Xbox...well really M$ won in terms of (perhaps) being better equipped for the future direction of gaming. We'll see who is right.

Either way, this whole generation felt flat regardless of who won. Nintendo is still pushing more units than either Xbox or PS5. Damn near everyone has a Switch and then PC/Xbox/PS5 for grown-up gaming.

This is what we've been saying.

Xbox is going 3rd party, which might suit them and their software focus

Sony/Nintendo will scoop up that % of xbox users and keep selling consoles.

 

[Rekkapryde]

This is what we've been saying.

Xbox is going 3rd party, which might suit them and their software focus

Sony/Nintendo will scoop up that % of xbox users and keep selling consoles.

Exactly

It’s the Xboobs trying to spin this as some win that is comical. nikkaz about to get Sega’d

 

[Gizmo_Duck]

This is what we've been saying.

Xbox is going 3rd party, which might suit them and their software focus

Sony/Nintendo will scoop up that % of xbox users and keep selling consoles.

Also, how come when i suggested it, i got so much pushback?

Do you think Microsoft will eventually drop hardware and go 3rd party?

The series consoles have now fallen behind the xbox one, it seems like Microsoft is having a hard time selling hardware this gen. And whats worse is that they don’t expect an increase in revenue or hardware for next quarter with starfield :whoo:

www.thecoli.com

 

[Peter Parker]

Join PC gang bruhs

Forreal, you’ll see how much of an actual peon you’ve been this whole time once you understand what makes PC gaming so great

 

[Diondon]

Sony is playing catch up to what?
becoming a third party publisher?

 

[MeachTheMonster]

Sony is playing catch up to what?
becoming a third party publisher?

ummmm yeah

Sony: Acquisition of Bungie Represents a Major Step Forward in Becoming More Multiplatform

Breaking down barriers

www.pushsquare.com

 

[Diondon]

ummmm yeah

Sony: Acquisition of Bungie Represents a Major Step Forward in Becoming More Multiplatform

Breaking down barriers

www.pushsquare.com

I see. That's been Sony's aim all along
they've just been very bad at it

 

[Jaguar93]

PlayStation lil bro’d Xbox but it was all a friendly fade. Now that the war is over can we actually play games.