Kobe is 100 Points away from 30,000

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If a 17 year old Kobe was ready to start and score 20 points, he would have been drafted much higher.
 

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If a 17 year old Kobe was ready to start and score 20 points, he would have been drafted much higher.

not when there were NO perimeter HS players that EVER came out before him. The mindset of the NBA toward HS players esp perimeter players was much different in 96 than the early 00s. Kobe was the main reason that mindset was shattered. Truly a NBA Trailblazer:myman:
 

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Lol, At Kobe not being good enough to play as a youngin. He would eat eddie jones up in practice. But we all know the politics that come with the NBA. They not going to bench a veteran for a 17 year old fresh out of high school. NBA Franchises weren't handing the key to the franchise to 18 years olds like they do know. But after seeing what Kobe did when actually given a chance. Teams just invest their whole franchise on 18 year old prospects.

It got so bad Stern put a ban on kids coming out of high school. Lol Come on yall. Kobe opened the lane up for the likes of Lebron, Howard even the Droses and John Walls.


Can you imagine if Kobe was given the keys to a franchise as a rookie with a green light? Kareem record would have been broken brehs
 

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Who was an allstar at the time.

And if Kobe would have been scoring the hypothetical 20-25 ppg these stans are saying he would have scored during that time, he was an all-star too, right?

These discussions are just comedy. There is good reason why players drafted out of high school aren't typically just sent out there to sink or swim. It's bad for the long term development of the player and its why teams were scared off from taking the high school guys like that in the first place. They're projects at that stage of their career and drafting them sends a message to the fanbase that the team has given up on the present and is looking to the future. If they say fukk it and just send them out there from day one, they might see their prized prospect crash and burn and never recover from it.

People want to say how many points Kobe would have scored if he immediately started, never had Shaq, etc like he would still be the player he is today if that hadn't happened. He learned a lot of valuable lessons from the way things went down and if he had just been playing me against the world from age 17 on, how many rings would he have? How long would he have even lasted in the league?
 

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Although he wouldnt have 5 rings, but being a team player cost him at least 4,000-5,000 points. Its crazy that he still has 30,000 points.

And if Kobe would have been scoring the hypothetical 20-25 ppg these stans are saying he would have scored during that time, he was an all-star too, right?

These discussions are just comedy. There is good reason why players drafted out of high school aren't typically just sent out there to sink or swim. It's bad for the long term development of the player and its why teams were scared off from taking the high school guys like that in the first place. They're projects at that stage of their career and drafting them sends a message to the fanbase that the team has given up on the present and is looking to the future. If they say fukk it and just send them out there from day one, they might see their
prized prospect crash and burn and never recover from it.

People want to say how many points Kobe would have scored if he immediately started, never had Shaq, etc like he would still be the player he is today if that hadn't happened. He learned a lot of valuable lessons from the way things went down and if he had just been playing me against the world from age 17
on, how many rings would he have? How long would he have even lasted in the league?

Pay attention Bilz, I touched on this waaaay back in the beginning when the
convo still made sense. I'm just saying he could've scored more if he had more freedom in his early years but he had to keep within the system and play team ball, WHICH IS HOW THEY WON THE RINGS. Like Phil has said a few times, Kobe sacrificed his game for the good of the team and became the facilitator that was needed, something he said thet even MJ couldn't do. You
dudes take one piece of something someone says, chop it up and drop it off to another planet just to change the subject. Bottomline, Kobe scoring 30,000 is something only 4 other players have done and all of those players were the #1 option from day one and the majority of their careers, meanwhile Kobe didn't become the #1 until 2004-2005 his 9th SEASON :wtf: is wrong with you dudes? Hate runs that deep for you niqqas.:umad:
 

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Pay attention Bilz, I touched on this waaaay back in the beginning when the convo still made sense. I'm just saying he could've scored more if he had more freedom in his early years but he had to keep within the system and play team ball, WHICH IS HOW THEY WON THE RINGS. Like Phil has said a few times, Kobe sacrificed his game for the good of the team and became the facilitator that was needed, something he said thet even MJ couldn't do. You dudes take one piece of something someone says and drop it off to another planet.

Did I ever claim that you didn't? Other people miss that point and you're still missing the other point that I am making, which is if he never had those limitations early on, he may have never become what he is today. Trying to score 40 a night from day one would have been a lot harder on him physically. You can't simply add 5,000 points on to his career for and disregard the fact that he may not even be around to score 25 a game now if he had burned out earlier.
 

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Did I ever claim that you didn't? Other people miss that point and you're still missing the other point that I am making, which is if he never had those limitations early on, he may have never become what he is today. Trying to score 40 a night from day one would have been a lot harder on him physically. You can't simply add 5,000 points on to his career for and disregard the fact that he may not even be around to score 25 a game now if he had burned out earlier.

I'm not simply adding on points and I'm not disregarding anything, all I'm saying is what I said, now if you wanna add on other factors then be my guest. We all know that it would've harder BUT that doesn't mean that he wouldn't have still scored 30,000. Check it, this dude is in his 17th damn season and he STILL leads the league in scoring and has been in the top 3 for forever, nothing shows me that anything would've been different, whether you haters wanna admit it or not Kobe is cut from a different cloth than these dudes, you and your niqqas just don't wanna admit that (doesn't make a difference if y'all do), matter of fact ALL the old heads that still playing is from a different cloth, it's just that Kobe is still playing at a higher level that them.
 
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