Kobe Bryant droppin Knowledge on u fools: "I'm the best 1 on 1 player of all time..."

[CantStop]

And Kobe at Durants height would just be Anthony Randolph

Kobe is more skilled than Durant,has a harder work ethic and I bet his pipe game is stronger so how would he be anthony randolph if he's taller?

 

[Malta]

Because KD doesn't sacrifice his game for Russ. Russ' game actually allows KD to be more efficient and Russ is actually the engine of the team. I'm struggling to find what KD would do more of without Russ. It's the fact that early on in his career he wasn't given the latitude to use his full arsenal or go all out. It's not really the same thing. You can't pretend that Kobe had anywhere near the greenlight that KD had since day 1.

He'd get more shots up, come on fam, KD is only taking 18 a game, in 03 Kobe was at 23.5.

Would his efficiency go down without Russ? Sure, but his scoring would go up without question, this isn't someone that NEEDS screens to score, he just uses them as part of his teams gameplan. We've all seen KD score effortlessly in isolation.

 

[Loose]

Because KD doesn't sacrifice his game for Russ. Russ' game actually allows KD to be more efficient and Russ is actually the engine of the team. I'm struggling to find what KD would do more of without Russ. It's the fact that early on in his career he wasn't given the latitude to use his full arsenal or go all out. It's not really the same thing. You can't pretend that Kobe had anywhere near the greenlight that KD had since day 1.

He's averaging a Career Low 18 shots per game what in the hell are you talking about :kat:


Take more shots per game

 

[Mac071415]

Kobe is more skilled than Durant,has a harder work ethic and I bet his pipe game is stronger so how would he be anthony randolph if he's taller?

And you have the audacity to call someone else a faq. Pot calling the kettle black.


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[madness]

Who is your best friend in the NBA that’s not a former teammate?

[Long pause.] There’s nobody I’m really hanging out with and going out with every night. But I’d probably say Carmelo Anthony. We’re pretty close. A lot of the guys from Team USA I get along with really well. I really respect those guys.

@this loser having NO friends except vanessa and his daughters

most of his stans are anti-social losers in real life too, prolly why they love him so much

nikka threw melo's name out there in desperation...melo dont like that nikka tho

 

[Malcolmxxx_23]

He'd get more shots up, come on fam, KD is only taking 18 a game, in 03 Kobe was at 23.5.

Would his efficiency go down without Russ? Sure, but his scoring would go up without question, this isn't someone that NEEDS screens to score, he just uses them as part of his teams gameplan. We've all seen KD score effortlessly in isolation.

i can swear to my life that this nikka @BarNone never hooped a day in his life











wait this nikka durant taking 18 shots

 

[No1]

He's averaging a Career Low 18 shots per game what in the hell are you talking about :kat:


Take more shots per game

Didn't read the post right

 

[No1]

He'd get more shots up, come on fam, KD is only taking 18 a game, in 03 Kobe was at 23.5.

Would his efficiency go down without Russ? Sure, but his scoring would go up without question, this isn't someone that NEEDS screens to score, he just uses them as part of his teams gameplan. We've all seen KD score effortlessly in isolation.

Well, I was reading your post wrong. I thought you were just simply talking about why people say Shaq detracted from Kobe's game period. I wasn't talking PPG averages. If you meant just KD chucking up more shots than of course Russ hurts him, but I wasn't reading through this thread. You just had the most recent post.

Case of making different arguments

I'll take that L.

 

[Loose]

Loose you're not that great at this basketball shyt and you show that all the time. He's taking less shots because he's more efficient this year and getting the same production. That's the entire point, without Russ, KD would have to force the issue more which would actually take away from his game. Don't be ridiculous. You're contradicting yourself with this very post, it is the antithesis of everything you ever say about the KD-Russ relationship. Go sit this one out. That's like saying why was Kobe more efficient a lot of those years with Shaq but he was averaging less PPG than he did without him.

The point is, KD has luxury (to an obviously lesser degree), but he's still the first option. Kobe wasn't. Early on in his career KD struggled with physical defenders guys that got into his body, he got so much of his offense moving without the ball and spotting up. Westbrook complimented him, KD would not have been a better player without him.

Im not good at basketball discussion? oh really you have yet to support your opinion with zero statistical evidence instead you have relied on nonfactual information to try to pass your bs opinion on as a fact. Going by your logic KD would be less efficient because of the loss of James harden because of his increase role of decision making. instead you look ridiculous because even in 2003 with Shaq, Kobe shot 45% shooting with a 55% TS% taking 24 shots per game. Kobe was not more efficient during those years infact 03 was only his 6th best Efg% year.


Lets look at Durant on the other hand in 2012-2013, his eFG% is 3% higher then last year with the loss of harden and an increase in TS% as well.Durant if he continues onto his current pace he is seeking to join Charles Barkley , Adrian Dantley, Kevin McHale and Amar’e Stoudemire as the only players in NBA history to average 25 or more points per game with a true shooting percentage of .650 or higher. but hey lets ignore that












edit : nvm forget the discussion

 

[holidayinn21]

how did turn into a kobe/durant thread?

u stay trolling loose.

with that said, 03 kobe beats current durant relatively easily.

kobe was kobe busting prime kirilenko's ass everytime they played. length and height wouldn't an issue.

durant's only advantage is that he can shoot over him at anytime.

 

[swag2011]

lol bean got these nikkas mad like always.

 

[feelosofer]

So Durant is just a glorified Kirilenko, check.



I feel like Kobe is desperate, it's like he's watching Lebron pass him up in the GOAT discussion and he's begging for attention. Kobe's having a great season in his own right, just leave it at that.

 

[A-Train]

I find it interesting that when the topic of Jordan vs Kobe comes up that the excuse for Kobe not scoring more during his early days is because he had to share shots with Shaq, right? So, in the discussion of Kobe vs Durant, why is the topic of KD sharing shots with Russ not coming up, especially since Russ has the ball and decides where it goes.

Remove Russ from the equation and what does KD do? This is the same argument you dudes have used, but now in KD's case it's no longer applied.

Remove Russ from the equation and am still not sure KD's one on one game becomes highlighted.
I hope I making myself understandable but I think the only reason the Kobe/Shaq argument is valid is because as fans we know for a fact if Kobe had free reign on the court during the Shaq era, zero fukks would be given by that man. It was clear as day on and off the court that Kobe wanted the ball in his hands. I think that's the thing when it comes to what makes someone a good one-on-one player, the fact that they have this need and overwhelming confidence that they can score on their own damn near every possession.

I think there would be a legit KD/Russ argument if we actually seen that nikka with that hunger/killer instinct offensively the way MJ/Kobe had. shyt, sometimes I feel like Russ has it more than KD. Who took over game 4 in the finals? Who is always defending Russ's aggressiveness? I can't see Kobe or MJ willingly saying something like this “We’re worse when I take more shots,” or this "But we’re better when he does do that and he’s aggressive. And I’m better when I’m out there facilitating, rebounding.."

Don't get me wrong, I think KD is a great player and a terrific scorer, but when it comes to one-on-one, I think what is not being mentioned enough in some of these arguments is the mental aspect of these players.

 

[Swagnificent]

So Durant is just a glorified Kirilenko, check.



I feel like Kobe is desperate, it's like he's watching Lebron pass him up in the GOAT discussion and he's begging for attention. Kobe's having a great season in his own right, just leave it at that.

Kirlenko was one of the top defenders in the league back then. Durant is no where close to his level defensively. The point of that comparison is to show that Kobe can light up someone with Durant's length and athleticism.

Prime Kobe is the of one on one scoring. Dude could break you off every way imaginable while locking you up. I think threads like these separate those who actually watch the games versus those who don't. Durant is GREAT. But he's more of a catch and shoot scorer. He ain't built for one on one like Kobe. Hell I'd take Russ if he was 6'7" over Durant when it comes to pure one on one play.

 

[Loose]

Kirlenko was one of the top defenders in the league back then. Durant is no where close to his level defensively. The point of that comparison is to show that Kobe can light up someone with Durant's length and athleticism.

Prime Kobe is the of one on one scoring. Dude could break you off every way imaginable while locking you up. I think threads like these separate those who actually watch the games versus those who don't. Durant is GREAT. But he's more of a catch and shoot scorer. He ain't built for one on one like Kobe. Hell I'd take Russ if he was 6'7" over Durant when it comes to pure one on one play.