Knicks should have kept David Lee.

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It's common knowledge that Amar'e coming to NY, leading them to a good record, and the LBJ remarks were what helped bring Melo here. If you disagree fine... but you're wrong. Melo wasn't gonna leave Denver for a losing situation. This isn't hard to figure out
 

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New York is the largest market in the world. All the Knicks needed to do to attract guys to sign was have capspace.

at the same time, they needed to reenergize the fan base and the city. Walsh in hindsight did an amazing job convincing New Yorkers to actually sit through a rebuilding phase and a roster purge to have a goal in mind of landing big time players for the hope of setting up their own super team. The Knicks play in NY, so a market can sell itself to a player, but the Knicks needed to sell themselves to the rest of the city. Amar'e for what it's worth, got people looking at the team seriously again, and then once Melo came, that's where fans felt like they could legit have title hopes again. As appreciated as Lee was, he just wasn't going to be the big splash that would have fans care again. Sucks for Lee because in a different summer or a different point in time, he'd still be a beloved Knick, but he was a casualty.

Knicks were looking for a player to build around, a franchise player. Lee wasn't gonna be that. Hell, Lee's not that for the Warriors.
 

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You're an idiot. If the deal didn't get done he was going to New Jersey. Or he would've resigned with Denver. You acting like Melo leaving Denver was a certainty before Amar'e coming to NY. Nobody was even thinking that before the Summer of Lebron

I've had this debate many a time with you about what Melo would have done. I'll just do something that's a Coli taboo:

Agree to disagree :merchant:
 

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You're an idiot. If the deal didn't get done he was going to New Jersey. Or he would've resigned with Denver. You acting like Melo leaving Denver was a certainty before Amar'e coming to NY. Nobody was even thinking that before the Summer of Lebron

:what: I was calling for Melo and Paul before Lebron even became a FA and those rumors were floating around. Melo no longer wanted a part of Denver and him going to New Jersey basically proves my point that he would come to the Knicks without Amare. I'm sure he was fukking stoked to go play with Brooke Lopez and Derrick Favors. Actually I'm sure Derrick Favors would of been part of the deal.
 

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:what: I was calling for Melo and Paul before Lebron even became a FA and those rumors were floating around. Melo no longer wanted a part of Denver and him going to New Jersey basically proves my point that he would come to the Knicks without Amare. I'm sure he was fukking stoked to go play with Brooke Lopez and Derrick Favors.

So Brook Lopez hasn't always been a bigger name than David Lee?

Edit: and you calling for it before the free agency period means absolutely nothing. Everything revolved around Lebron. Speculation beyond that would've been asinine
 

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Put it like this @Blackthoughts

The Warriors and inexplicably my team (because I was dead set against signing Lee or Gay) went after Lee for kinda the same reason the Knicks went after Amar'e: to make a splash to say to the league: Hey, we're here, and you're gonna have to take notice. The only difference is that the Warriors already had a player they felt they were building around and the Knicks didn't.
 
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The Knicks are 15-5, have the best record in the east, have enough talent to compete for a championship, and dudes in here are playing GM talking about the Knicks should've kept David Lee? :rudy:


Why are we even having this discussion?
 

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Still not a name that should get you excited to go to that team.

Assuming everything goes down the way it does except the Knocks make no moves outside of signing Raymond Felton, I'm almost 100% version Melo decides to try and make it work with the squad that took him to the WCF. He wasn't leaving for money
 

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Put it like this @Blackthoughts

The Warriors and inexplicably my team (because I was dead set against signing Lee or Gay) went after Lee for kinda the same reason the Knicks went after Amar'e: to make a splash to say to the league: Hey, we're here, and you're gonna have to take notice. The only difference is that the Warriors already had a player they felt they were building around and the Knicks didn't.
I agree. But right now no way would we deal D-Lee for a healthy Amare. Amare is overpaid and under produces. Lee's game doesn't rely on athleticism so he should be good past his current contract. Can't say the same for Amare.
 
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Assuming everything goes down the way it does except the Knocks make no moves outside of signing Raymond Felton, I'm almost 100% version Melo decides to try and make it work with the squad that took him to the WCF. He wasn't leaving for money

Lala wanted to be in LA or NY for her career. Staying in Denver wasn't an option.
 

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I agree. But right now no way would we deal D-Lee for a healthy Amare. Amare is overpaid and under produces. Lee's game doesn't rely on athleticism so he should be good past his current contract. Can't say the same for Amare.

that's irrelevant. Nobody's asking you to. Not to shyt on Lee, but one man's trash is another man's treasure. Just be happy the circumstances for the Knicks were at that point. Otherwise, you might have given Boozer's agent a call.
 

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Gotchu I just think he was done with Denver and if he was willing to accept a trade to the Nets who really didn't have much at the time theres no reason to think he would have not accepted going to the Knicks but it's all assumptions because the Knicks did sign Amare so it really doesn't even matter.
 

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I agree. But right now no way would we deal D-Lee for a healthy Amare. Amare is overpaid and under produces. Lee's game doesn't rely on athleticism so he should be good past his current contract. Can't say the same for Amare.

Glad you feel that way :troll:
 
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