KKK creator Nathan Bedford Forrest is getting bushed from his grave

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It's actually true, that's why pretty much any book you read on the subject or documentary you watch states the same thing.​




I have several and the fact remains that the original incarnation wasn't politically motivated. That came later.


No argument there​



They wanted the same things, but not in the same manner, thus, the signing of the Klan Act of 1871.​

#1: Not true. I posted the foremost most respected historian/scholar on Reconstruction Klan. I can provide more sources for you if needed.

#2: Already corrected you on that.

#3: You can not be serious honey. Who is they? White folks? The Klan? Most whites were basically in support of the Klan.

The Klan Act of 1871 was a joke. And it was not successful as they stated it was. They continued to kill, harass and intimidate Black people - and nothing was done about it.

Two months later in April 1871, Congress passed the third and final measure, known as the Ku Klux Klan Act. This Act outlawed terrorist conspiracies by all racist vigilantes including but not limited to the Ku Klux Klan. It allowed the President to suspend the writ of Habeas Corpus in regions prone to terrorist activities.

Overall, the acts undermined the organized violence of the Ku Klux Klan. The Acts, unfortunately, did not stop all violent resistance to African American participation in voting across the South. That violence helped overthrow Reconstruction governments in all but three ex-Confederate states by the end of President Grant’s second term. The U.S. Supreme Court in two rulings also undermined the Acts. In United States v. Reese et al. 1876 and the United States v. Cruikshank 1876 opponents of the Enforcement Acts challenged their constitutionality. The Court agreed with the plaintiffs and concluded that voting rights are best-regulated by state authorities without federal intervention.​
 

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#1: I agree the group was formed in 1865 - but it still had the same goals and purpose. They were also still killing, harassing, violating and intimidating freedman, women and children. Under Forrest it was just more open and well accepted - Forrest did not control or was over the many chapters all over the South - who were already violent and demonic.

Can't really argue against this as one of the things the first Klan made a priority was secrecy surrounding their activities. The problem is proving THEY were the perpetrators. The second Klan under Forrest used the same tactic and infused it with a lot of puposeful misdirection to instill more fear.​

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#2: To call it a group would to wrong. It was many groups all over the South - many with their own leaders and rules under the KKK umbrella. They all operated for the same purposes - White Supremacy.

White Supremacy wasn't the 'purpose' of the first iteration, moreso the system that allowed them to become what they eventually did. Also, I'm ONLY referring to the Pulaski group.
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#3: Forrest didn't take over the full Klan. He was over TN. Not everywhere else. They were all doing their own thing. Forrest was the first Grand Wizard of the Reconstruction Klan -- aka the first Klan.

I'm specifically referring to that group. The original Ku Klux Klan.​
 

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Can't really argue against this as one of the things the first Klan made a priority was secrecy surrounding their activities. The problem is proving THEY were the perpetrators. The second Klan under Forrest used the same tactic and infused it with a lot of puposeful misdirection to instill more fear.​



White Supremacy wasn't the 'purpose' of the first iteration, moreso the system that allowed them to become what they eventually did. Also, I'm ONLY referring to the Pulaski group.


I'm specifically referring to that group. The original Ku Klux Klan.​

I listed the Reconstruction Klan official book. It was White Supremacy. What else would it be?

The purpose of White Supremacy was to not allow any advancement, any rights or anything allowed or for White folks --- which was everything to Black people.

Both Klans were extremely violent - Forrest just became the official face on the national scale. But, in the South - each Klan chapter and group did their own thing.
 

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Mother fukker you don’t think black people know who the fukk the KKK is. You think we give a fukk why the call eachother Grand Dragon Or any of that bullshyt. We don’t even need your link( and I read it). There is much literature about them. And not a single one expounds on them being a joke. I don’t give a fukk what them crackers did with eachother. The point was they were anti-black white supremacist demon pieces of shyt from the fukking beginning. Just like you...I don’t give a fukk if the names were stolen from cartoons. These motherfukkers were bout it since the beginning. Give a fukk bout your fukking link. Don’t matter if it was political or just hanging and killing black human beings for fun..This is never a subject to be taking lightly or jokingly in any way. Saying some shyt like that does that. fukk you to hell and yo mamma too. Wish I could smack the fukk outta you

if you black .. then rot in piss as well.


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the OGs ain't safe from history. this statute should of been removed long time ago. America sucks. Seriously, it is the land of immigrants
 

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You are weird AF and I know you are anti-Black American. I see your daps and your passive aggressive comments.

ALL my life. And if anyone knows me on this board from DAY ONE I have been the same. I have always talked and educated about ADOS history and our ancestors. History and genealogy are my passions - and it's something I have been vocal about since day one on this forum. Feel free to look it up. :smile:

I know it bothers you I am proud of who I am - and stand up and speak up for my people. Sorry. :smile:

Shame on me for knowing my history and being able to properly educate on it -- huh? Weird perspectives my ass.

Interesting you came at me - for educating on the facts of the KKK. As they say... hate to see it. :smile:

I just negged that fakkit. I peeped he's the only one been dapping up this clown @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited
 

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xoxodede said:
I listed the Reconstruction Klan official book. It was White Supremacy. What else would it be?

Initially, it would be for THEIR idea of 'trolling'. Later, under Forrest, for the furtherance of White Supremacy and putting the Democrats in power. Not a whole lot of time between the two.​

xoxodede said:
The purpose of White Supremacy was to not allow any advancement, any rights or anything allowed or for White folks --- which was everything to Black people.

No argument there
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Both Klans were extremely violent - Forrest just became the official face on the national scale. But, in the South - each Klan chapter and group did their own thing.

I'm specifically talking about the 6 men of the original Ku Klux Klan, not other groups. As far as the violence associated with the Pulaski group....

Grant, Reconstruction and the KKK | American Experience | PBS
At the time of Ulysses S. Grant's election to the presidency, white supremacists were conducting a reign of terror throughout the South. In outright defiance of the Republican-led federal government, Southern Democrats formed organizations that violently intimidated blacks and Republicans who tried to win political power.

The most prominent of these, the Ku Klux Klan, was formed in Pulaski, Tennessee, in 1865. Originally founded as a social club for former Confederate soldiers, the Klan evolved into a terrorist organization. It would be responsible for thousands of deaths, and would help to weaken the political power of Southern blacks and Republicans.

 

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@xoxodede how long you been ados? You talk about a lot of this shyt like you just learned it.

You still vehemently believe that ados wouldn’t have liked Obama if his wife was African?

Weird perspectives for a natural born ados person.
She is ADOS, don’t even Fukkin try it or speak on her level of “blackness”, unless you plan on being put in the spotlight just like that @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited clown in this thread. Unlike him, she doesn’t fraud and I’ve seen her be just as much as advocate behind the scenes and knowledgeable just as she does on here. If y’all are trying to start some c00n - cac division tactics against solid verified black posters then you better Fukkin bring a legion. No way can you sit here and come at her when that clown is posting up as a KKK advocate trying to justify his tactics and is STILL doing so, that dumb m’fer has been here since 2012, it’s like a repeat cycle - older poster using the word n—er, always cacking. But you didn’t say a word to him. She’s the problem for posting historical research analysis from peer - reviewed platforms but he posts up The History Channel and you’re asking her if she just learned this?? Clearly this is a failed whitewash on his part.
 
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She is ADOS, don’t even Fukkin try it or speak on her level of “blackness”, unless you plan on being put in the spotlight just like that @Dafunkdoc_Unlimited clown in this thread. Unlike him, she doesn’t fraud and I’ve seen her be just as much as advocate behind the scenes and knowledgeable just as she does on here. If y’all are trying to start some c00n - cac division tactics against solid verified black posters then you better Fukkin bring a legion. No way can you sit here and come at her when that clown is posting up as a KKK advocate trying to justify his tactics and is STILL doing so and that dumb m’fer has been here since 2012, using the word n—er. But you didn’t say a word to him.

Woo sah
 
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