@King Creole...the Slovenian cac. Step on in.

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One of the regrets I have from that posting period was being too forgiving about Candidate Trump's worst inclinations because he represented perhaps the last chance to break the political status quo and broaden the realm of what is considered politically possible, thereby opening up the lane for progressive/outsider politics. While his administration has been more vile than I foresaw, I think long-term, my overall take is still correct. I see Trump's election as chemotherapy. The groundswell of progressive politics that have risen in the wake of his election are the antibodies.
No you thought Donald Trump was a left leaning republican who would actually be good for the democratic party.

Your overall take is wrong.

Trump is actually an interesting figure. He's the most left leaning Republican candidate. He supports a single-payer health care system and is pro/neutral on abortion. He's spoken out (in a very shallow manner, mind you) against police brutality. He's spoken out about corporate America's undue influence on the political process. He's protectionist and focused on bringing jobs back to America. And this is the Republican front-runner. That's pretty incredible. His problem is his signalling. It's all being taken to the extreme, and he's allowing it to happen because he's playing the short game. The personal vendetta he has with Megyn Kelly led him to being lambasted as misogynistic when he's the only Republican candidate to extoll the importance of funding women's health care. His crass comments about the nature of illegal immigrants have led him to being (legitimately) characterized as racist when the core of his stance on the issue is imo at least defensible. He has no worse history on black issues than Hillary Clinton or Martin O'Malley. I think if he plays his cards right (which he's not doing right now) he could actually capture a lot of moderate, youth and black votes. He's easily the most authentic person in this race, and it's evidently incredibly refreshing to many people.

But I think there is a natural, perhaps growing affinity between the black community and Republicans ideals. At least if the Republicans are smart with the direction they take their party in after this impending self-immolation, which I see no reason to believe they will be.


But really. :Ifyouinsist::Pressley:
 

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Ok for the record I'm black, I've never been to Slovenia in my life, honestly couldn't even point it out on a map. Literally some poster ridiculously accused me of posting like a Slovenian and I said "Yes, I am Slovenian." as a joke. That's the entire origin story of the Slovenian thing. :mjlol:
 

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:yeshrug: i doubt hes slovenian
Probably a c00n though :unimpressed:

He looked so comfortable up there wilding and stunting, this truly is Don's world :jbtrump:

Trump IS hip hop!

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Faith of a mustard seed :jbtrump:
 

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No you thought Donald Trump was a left leaning republican who would actually be good for the democratic party.

Your overall take is wrong.
Candidate Trump undoubtedly adopted more left-leaning positions than any Republican nominee in modern political history. He was running a schizophrenic campaign with Bannon's strategy of establishing a cross-racial nationalist coalition. Everything I said there was based on actual things Candidate Trump had actually said. Again, I was being too credulous and didn't foresee the Bannonites losing the internal civil war of controlling the idiot President to the McConnellites during the early stages of his administration, and I was too quick to overlook the degree of immorality he was courting because I was disgusted by the more palatable immorality I saw the other side courting, but it is revisionist history to claim Candidate Trump wasn't breaking the traditional Democratic-Republican paradigm. It's literally a fact that he basically called George Bush a war criminal on a national debate stage and advocated for Universal Health Care, however addled his brain may be.
 

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Wanting Trump to win for x to happen was a real master class

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I'll take the timeline with Trump and progressive revolution of AOC/Omar/Tlaib/President Warren over the timeline with Hillary and no progressive revolution. I don't think you're a progressive though, so it makes sense that you think Trump is the worst thing to ever happen to America.

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How many times has Trump threatened to use his nukes? :PatriceTrump:

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#TrumpSet in the cityyyy be back immediatelyyyy to confiscate the moneyyyy

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Yes, he's confiscating the money of the poor and blacks and giving it to the wealthy.
How this going? The swamp is doing better than ever?

I never knew much about Bannon, never even visited Drudge before, always thought he was just some gutter press, far/alt right, Fox news wannabe creep, but that Vatican interview has me...intrigued. To call him simply a white supremacist isn't doing his philosophy justice. It's almost as if he's a Judeo-Christian Capitalist Accelerationist. Race doesn't appear to be a motivating factor in his philosophy. He's not going to push Trump to open up fukkin black internment camps. Y'all are parroting the stupid shyt hack Dems are saying on CNN.

Bannon had my curiosity, now he has my attention. Like, this dude might actually, literally be a Christopher Nolan Batman supervillain. But I am shameless in the presence of anything that calls itself an ideology. :lupe:

This is amazing.

Wait what nikka? Not even @DEAD7 rides for Steve Bannon. Woooooow. :scustedcam:
 

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Defending Trump after it came out Trump thinks the Central Park 5 are still guilty, more gems in thread :mjpls:

As I've been saying for months, my priority issue is foreign policy, and I have no doubt in my mind that Hillary, from her unrepentence about her disasterous term as SoS to her stoking Russophobic sentiments with the neoconservative establishment coalescing around her, is the more competent and willing warhawk. But please, I would love to hear how opposition to amnesty and trade deals like TPP have been "discredited". My feeble mind simply cannot understand how legalization of millions of illegal immigrants primarily working in the same sectors as much of the African-American community is a better policy for the African-American community than enforcing deportation laws. When you're done with that one, I would love to hear how the corporate overlords would look after the African-American community in the wake of TPP. I was unaware that the only reasonable policy is to continue sliding down the mountain face, smiling.

Trump is Dove


...the one who has actually enacted warhawk policies in the past and has all the most prominent warhawks supporting her?
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I'm saying breh



He also gave his marquee foreign policy speech on August 15th calling for an end to nation-building and a reanalysis of America's shytty current global posture w/r/t relationships with foreign nations.

Full text: Donald Trump's speech on fighting terrorism

I've been taking a break from the election for the past few weeks, but it looks like as he's closing in on Hillary, he's abandoning some of those sentiments to attract the moderate Republicans HRC is courting. Like, he recently mirrored her position and called for an end to sequestration cuts to the defense budget and an increase in defense spending


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Of course Hillary is competent, I've never denied that. If she wasn't competent, she wouldn't be able to do the damage she's about to.

And I've never claimed that Trump was a dove, just that he's more of a dove than Hillary. She has ideologically inherited the American foreign policy establishment's geopolitical framework, so she has her enemies already lined up (Iran, Russia, Syria, et al). Trump is foreign policy know-nothing. He doesn't care about checking Russian aggression or appeasing the Saudis. It's far more likely that Hillary, with her "first in" and "get caught trying" mentality, will exacerbate tensions and spark a military conflict.


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