Copy Ninja
Superstar
WTF
made me look at this post twice to make sure these weren't legit advanced stats acronyms 
Kick ball merchant Nikola Jokic is allowing 70 percent at the rim. Worst amongst Centers. Man ain't defending shyt
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WTF
made me look at this post twice to make sure these weren't legit advanced stats acronyms 
What best player in the world and "it's not close" is losing to an 8 seed in the first round? You're retarded
In The Zone '98
Superstar
Nah, fukk that. If it was anyone else they would get raked over the coals. Jokic was putting Wilt numbers during his finals run. He would not get the same grace if something like the Heat series happened
threattonature
Veteran
A lot of those heights were overestimated. There were only a few legit 7 footers even in the 90s. Plus today they measure without shoes on. Jokic is definitely not undersized by any measure.
Hakeem was listed as a 7'0 and most had him at 6'10 at best. Zo was 6'10. Smits, Shaq and a few others were the only real legit 7 footers.
There's two parts to this -
First of which, he is surrounded by arguably the worst collective of perimeter defenders in the league (Murray, Westbrook and MPJ), and the likes of Gordon have only played half a season, so it only stands to reason because they can't stop anything on the perimeter, that there's going to be a whole lot of traffic in the paint for him to defend.
Notice how OP fails to mention that Bam Adebayo allows a worse percentage at the rim, and he's regarded as one of the best big man defenders in the league, and that's largely down to the Heat's poor perimeter defense.
DFG% is a measurement of the closest defender, not the player who is responsible for giving up the bucket. If you're not using the appropriate context using a stat like this, you shouldn't be using it.
The second part to this is, Jokic can't get into foul trouble because it'll kill the team (they have the #1 offense with him on the floor, but without him, they'd be last), so if an offensive player already has the advantage of being in a spot where they're going to score, it doesn't make much sense for Jokic to contest in fears that it would put him into foul trouble.
First of which, he is surrounded by arguably the worst collective of perimeter defenders in the league (Murray, Westbrook and MPJ), and the likes of Gordon have only played half a season, so it only stands to reason because they can't stop anything on the perimeter, that there's going to be a whole lot of traffic in the paint for him to defend.
Notice how OP fails to mention that Bam Adebayo allows a worse percentage at the rim, and he's regarded as one of the best big man defenders in the league, and that's largely down to the Heat's poor perimeter defense.
DFG% is a measurement of the closest defender, not the player who is responsible for giving up the bucket. If you're not using the appropriate context using a stat like this, you shouldn't be using it.
The second part to this is, Jokic can't get into foul trouble because it'll kill the team (they have the #1 offense with him on the floor, but without him, they'd be last), so if an offensive player already has the advantage of being in a spot where they're going to score, it doesn't make much sense for Jokic to contest in fears that it would put him into foul trouble.
Defending the rim is only one part of defensive play.
Notice how OP fails to mention that Jokic leads all big men in steals at 1.7 per game; leads all big men in deflections at 3.7 per game; #2 in contested rebounds; and has one of the highest keep-in-front%s out of all big men.
His value on the defensive end isn't what he can defend at the rim. Anyone trying to clown his defense by solely focusing on that and not looking at all the other facets at that end of the floor clearly has an agenda in their back pocket.
Notice how OP fails to mention that Jokic leads all big men in steals at 1.7 per game; leads all big men in deflections at 3.7 per game; #2 in contested rebounds; and has one of the highest keep-in-front%s out of all big men.
His value on the defensive end isn't what he can defend at the rim. Anyone trying to clown his defense by solely focusing on that and not looking at all the other facets at that end of the floor clearly has an agenda in their back pocket.
FukkaPaidEmail
Retired Hoodrat whisperer
According to this Jalen Duren is a better defender than Bam Adebayo,AD,Giannis and Jakob Poetl….I assure you this is not reality 
Jokic can’t run the offense and be Dikembe
Jokic can’t run the offense and be Dikembe
T-K-G
Veteran
If Jokic gets in foul trouble that team gets blown out by 20-30 on a consistent basis
Low quality thread premise
Low quality thread premise
FukkaPaidEmail
Retired Hoodrat whisperer
Two of the better defenders in the league are at the top of this (Toumani and Avidja)
If you using this to measure defense without context
If you using this to measure defense without context
Giannis has 60% and also almost half the attempts
2023 postseason:
THIS HAS ALWAYS BEEN
HIS ACHILLES HEEL.
THAT ONE CHIP MADE PPL FORGET
HOW HE USED TO GET TARGETED EVERY
POST SEASON
Jokic's DFG% at the rim - 59% on 8.1 attempts per game
AD's DFG% at the rim - 54% on 8.5 attempts per game.
I guess AD must have been targetted too.
"Worst amongst centers"
Even when OP uses stats out of context, he still can't even get it right.
Even when OP uses stats out of context, he still can't even get it right.