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This is how ALL conversations go with these women in a 1 on 1 setting...:ld:

Mistake after mistake after mistake with the same patterns:francis:

choices.

every young woman entering highschool needs to see this.

Kevin in the comments already sheesh

:mjcry: That was tough. She's clearly dealing with trauma.

FYI this might be a fake channel. The uploader only got 176 subscribers
 

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Im going to be honest with you playa, once a woman gets a degree shes going to look for a upgrade. And in the black community its 10 times because most of our woman think men are beneath them.

This is true for a lot of women. When they get that 4 year degree or masters....very few people if any can tell them anything....they only listen to women on their educational level.



I know she's from Louisiana. I just know it. This is very sad. Heartbreaking to be honest.
 

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@HarlemHottie can you explain this for us in your opinion and if ur mom described abuse? Genuinely curious.

Or is it BW consider painful, uncomfortable, or hard to accept feelings as toxic/abuse.

my last ex pinged me on toxic by emotional invalidation. I see her pov, but in my pov she used feelings as an excuse to not produce or be accountable

I know you didn't ask me but both of my grandmothers were married for 30+ years until both of their husbands died.

Ones husband beat the shyt out of her for the longest time and she stayed because "he paid the bills." The other never experienced anything remotely close to a beating. He treated her very well. But he did step out on her. He created a son outside of the marriage but the son was basically never allowed to come around the family. My dad and I use to visit him.

My mom has been married for 30+ also. My dad never stepped out or laid a hand on her.

The miss treatment in these long term marriages of yester years did happen. Not to everyone and probably not the majority but it did happen.
 

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This is true for a lot of women. When they get that 4 year degree or masters....very few people if any can tell them anything....they only listen to women on their educational level.



I know she's from Louisiana. I just know it. This is very sad. Heartbreaking to be honest.

I couldn’t finish that one :mjcry:

The pain in her face was just too much
 

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But, through 32 years of marriage, I understand now that there will be some mistakes.
Exactly, and thats true for ANY ltr, whether you're siblings, parent- child, or even just good friends.

Explain where the mindset of "Long-term relationship or marriage with a BM = toxicity and abuse" comes from.

Idk if majority of BM were straight up abusing women like that. Was wondering if you hear this from friends and why u think that is.
Not irl, but, tbf, i choose friends partly based on how they manage their personal relationships. Irrational ppl are irrational with everybody, not just romantic partners, and i don't like them around me.


But i have been told that my relationship is toxic and/ or abusive by women online. :pachaha:

Edit: I wonder if we're playing fast and loose with terminology here. I dont think its particularly toxic or abusive to cheat. Im not sure our ancestors would have characterized it like that either. I think it's a shytty thing to do and an abuse of power, but if you that mad, leave.

As a corollary, I find it odd that whenever we talk about traditional marriage in the black community, we're told that it never existed bc black women always had to work outside the home, but when you talk about abuse, our foremothers are all of a sudden totally and completely dependent on their husbands. Which one is it?

My maternal grandfather had an outside kid, his business centered around Harlem nightlife, shyt happens. My grandmother never even acknowledged the situation. I wonder if the wife of the hvm my mother dealt with for decades feels abused by his nice pension, insurance policies, and posh manhattan condo. :usure:

As one trained as a historian, i just want to caution us against throwing anachronistic sauce on shyt. :hubie:
 
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So I noticed when KS talks to women who have baby daddies or men that they were going to get married to, etc. If the men aren't gainfully employed, he clowns the shyt out of the them.

Has he ever stated he was against marriage if the man doesn’t make a lot of money?
 

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So I noticed when KS talks to women who have baby daddies or men that they were going to get married to, etc. If the men aren't gainfully employed, he clowns the shyt out of the them.

Has he ever stated he was against marriage if the man doesn’t make a lot of money?

As long as you’re living within your means he doesn’t seem to have a problem
 

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*not Ms Harlem ,but still a woman*

The point of that video is being lost. The lady was saying too many people romanticize these “long marriages from the old days” not that all long marriages with a bm= toxicity

For me ,that would be my great grandmother (may she R.I.P.). Traditional marriage,she was a stay at home mother ,he was the provider and was older. I don’t know if he was abusive but he definitely cheated and had outside babies . I’m not going to pretend she was innocent either though,because they say she cheated back and one of our uncles (may he R.I.P) was said to not be by my grandpa (he looked totally different than everyone else lol)
Then you have her daughter,my grandmother who went to college and went on to have a great career. She was/is actually one of the first women to integrate her field .Also married an older man,who also cheated and was abusive-only she divorced him.

Only difference is time and women got more rights

So I agree with the video
Thanks for the perspective. I agree, I know things went down back in the day. My grandparents had drama too and two of my uncs kids aren't his because my aunt was a cheater. So I get the idea that we've romanticized their relationships.

Cheating sucks, and outside babies are completely valid reason to leave. But I hear "toxic" from young women today and there's no mention of cheating or physical abuse so it comes off as this easy card to pull hinting at emotional abuse.
 

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One common thing I see modern women utter that never gets challenged is this idea of being “loved correctly.”

It’s something they all say, but no one asks what that means. It could mean no struggle love. It could mean being spoiled. It could mean a lot of things to a specific woman.

Imagine Black men walking around talking about we wanted to be loved, correctly. Black women would challenge and pick that apart.
 

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LOL at the girl whose baby daddy who was 33 with two teenage children and he had a t-shirt company that I'd venture to say isn't that successful if they living the way they are
He had an ig live where he was talking shyt about this girl who is 21 that said an adidas manager proposed to her.

I was like, he’s not a high value man, but I see nothing wrong with him working at adidas as a college student. I think he was at least.
 

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One common thing I see modern women utter that never gets challenged is this idea of being “loved correctly.”

It’s something they all say, but no one asks what that means. It could mean no struggle love. It could mean being spoiled. It could mean a lot of things to a specific woman.

Imagine Black men walking around talking about we wanted to be loved, correctly. Black women would challenge and pick that apart.
I legit was about to ask you wtf does that mean lmao.
 

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He had an ig live where he was talking shyt about this girl who is 21 that said an adidas manager proposed to her.

I was like, he’s not a high value man, but I see nothing wrong with him working at adidas as a college student. I think he was at least.
He was probably telling her to aim higher if she was pretty and had no kids.
 

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I legit was about to ask you wtf does that mean lmao.

They just repeat it because they hear other women say it.

Ultimately, being “loved correctly” is specific to the individual person. Every person has their own love language(s). You could be pouring it on, but still loving incorrectly if you aren’t addressing the person’s love language(s).
 
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