Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

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There's 2 types of high value men .. but only one is the alpha.

You got the Idris Elba / Denzel / Will Smith types... The ones born with good genetics, height, personality and charisma.

Then you got the Jay-Z / Birdman / Russell Simmons types.... Not blessed in the looks department, so they had to grind and hustle to acquire wealth and resources in order to get the women the Idris Denzel Will's could get without it.

It's debatable who the alpha is. My personal opinion is money don't mean anything in the grand scheme of things. Sure, it gives you more access to women, but I'm sure Biggie didn't get the same kind of sex Trey Songz or Chris Brown is getting. When women are truly attracted to you, the sex is better , the p*ssy is better, the interaction is better. Being ugly with money just makes it a chore for these women to have sex with you.

If everyone was just stranded on an island where money didn't matter, the men who know how to hunt would get most of the women. However, the women would still desire the man that's more physically attractive. Physical attractiveness and genetics is undefeated in the grand scheme of things.


Edit- this is a great thread idea now that I think of it...


I disagree. women have dual mating strategy. It's all about Survival I don't want to get too Red Pill but "love" is subjective in itself and people's looks change over time. I remember reading this book called Berlin 1945 and there was this Blond actress who was a convinced nazi who kept a diary. Right after the war a Red Army Solider from Azerbaijan asked her where he could find a "good woman" to cook and clean for him in exchange for food.

She like several other women where gang raped several times, so she suggested herself. She said the dude was so excited that he couldn't perform the first couple of times, she stayed with him till he redeployed back home two years later.
 

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Honestly, if you ask me, I believe a lot of women don't even have a good perception of money. $100k salary ain't a lot either. It's comfortable in the south, but you not balling by any means.

The average HOUSEHOLD income is $50k for Black Americans.
Credit and deliberate debt leniency from the government has brainwashed Americans to thinking they have more than they have.
 

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This nikka told a woman to give up custody of her kids to her baby daddy to find a husband:gucci:

Ive heard this line of thought before, but the suggestion was to leave the kids with the ex husband.

Uhm, I don't know what you are going on about, but a mother abandoning their child to another man or his family, and leaving to go start a family with another man( as what occured back then) is absolutely damaging and in the end it just hurts the child of the separated parents.

Kevin's advice(as I read it) was not providing a father figure to the child but as actually just treating children as baggage. Mind you, Kevin's advice is in the best interest of men, as it was in the 60s as well. That time for women was not great and not worth romanticizing.

I don’t see a problem at all.

If a single mother has a son, she would do better to give that son to the father. At least after a certain age. Yes, a cycle of “broke families” may repeat. But you won’t have any more feminized boys in the community.

A woman can’t turn a boy to a man.

I honestly don't see what's the big fuss. If the Dad is on good terms with the mom and been in the kids life, why can't she let him get custody for a few years (especially if he's remarried, which was originally the circumstance for the caller) an has moved on with his life. The kid will be getting a 2 parent home for the time being and the mom gets to focus on her relationship for a while so when her son comes back, he's coming back to a 2 parent home with his mom happy and not bitter and stressed.

shyt and you right anyway, once that lil nikka get 12 or 13, he should be with his pops anyway, unless that nikka is super sorry or some shyt.

Y’all nikkas advocating that a mother kicking her child to their father for some new dikk need y’all asses kicked

y’all so desperate for a father figure y’all championing barbarism

He recommends mothers send their sons to their fathers to be raised, not giving them up you piece of trash. Clearly you could have benefitted from your thot mom giving you up to your dad to teach you sorely needed lessons on manhood

There's been a huge misrepresentation in many of the above quotes of the advice given on that particular segment. I added some quotes that attempted to restore the context, but I the pushback could've been better explained.

The single mother had no real job skills and was struggling to provide just for herself and subsequently putting her black son in a shytty situation to overcome.

The best case scenario advice that Samuels gave was the mother move from Washington state, where she had NO help raising her child, back to Oklahoma where her ex-husband's family and he could help raise the boy and then for them to see if they could work things out. The woman's police officer ex-husband was unfaithful, but Kevin asked her... are your son and you better off now than before? The answer was a clear "no." Furthermore, there was no proof of "abuse" on the ex-husband's end - the woman had grown up in an environment where her biological father had abused her older sisters.

The second case scenario advice he gave the young woman was she give up custody of her son to his father (who had a stable, full-time career, with benefits) so that she could focus on putting herself in a better position to ensure relational AND financial success for herself. His (valid) argument was if she continued on the path she was on - a single mother with neither workforce nor homely skills - all she would end up being was a pump and dump for the men she wanted to take her seriously and her fatherless son would be infinitely worse off.

In context, I have to say I'm on board with the logic train. At this point, the most important factor in her situation was their young son, whose likelihood of growing up to be a "fukkboy" bum - or worse - increase by the thousand each day he's living in poverty with his emotional single mother. It sucks hard for a lot of women that some dudes don't have enough respect for their fukking wife to at least not have a side baby on her, but all statistics on the outcomes of boys raised by single mothers show the best chance mothers have of curbing that mentality in future generations of men is a two parent household.

EDIT: The reason I'm commenting on this is because listening to that segment is what convinced me that Kevin Samuels is truly passionate about getting black people to recognize that life isn't a game, we are behind and that we - our generation and the next couple of ones - need to make real, personal sacrifices in order to ensure our descendants a hundred, two hundred years from now aren't repeating the exact same complaints the past a hundred and sixty years of black folks have been regurgitating.
 
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This is tragic, I know her father didn't put her in Penn State for her to be a bird:mjtf:

I have absolutely no sympathy for grown ass women. But when they are young like this I can’t help but hope. I pray to the most high she get her shyt together. She is headed face first for disaster. Her parents did there job but STILL she wants the street life.

Got damn this sad:mjcry: playa!!! Just sad...
 
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There's been a huge misrepresentation in many of the above quotes of the advice given on that particular segment. I added some quotes that attempted to restore the context, but I the pushback could've been better explained.

The single mother had no real job skills and was struggling to provide just for herself and subsequently putting her black son in a shytty situation to overcome.

The best case scenario advice that Samuels gave was the mother move from Washington state, where she had NO help raising her child, back to Oklahoma where her ex-husband's family and he could help raise the boy and then for them to see if they could work things out. The woman's police officer ex-husband was unfaithful, but Kevin asked her... are your son and you better off now than before? The answer was a clear "no." Furthermore, there was no proof of "abuse" on the ex-husband's end - the woman had grown up in an environment where her biological father had abused her older sisters.

The second case scenario advice he gave the young woman was she give up custody of her son to his father (who had a stable, full-time career, with benefits) so that she could focus on putting herself in a better position to ensure relational AND financial success for herself. His (valid) argument was if she continued on the path she was on - a single mother with neither workforce nor homely skills - all she would end up being was a pump and dump for the men she wanted to take her seriously and her fatherless son would be infinitely worse off.

In context, I have to say I'm on board with the logic train. At this point, the most important factor in her situation was their young son, whose likelihood of growing up to be a "fukkboy" bum - or worse - increase by the thousand each day he's living in poverty with his emotional single mother. It sucks hard for a lot of women that some dudes don't have enough respect for their fukking wife to at least not have a side baby on her, but all statistics on the outcomes of boys raised by single mothers show the best chance mothers have of curbing that mentality in future generations of men is a two parent household.

EDIT: The reason I'm commenting on this is because watching that segment is what convinced me that Kevin Samuels is truly passionate about getting black people to recognize that life isn't a game, we are behind and that we - our generation and the next couple of ones - need to make real, personal sacrifices in order to ensure our descendants a hundred, two hundred years from now aren't repeating the exact same complaints the past a hundred and sixty years of black folks have been regurgitating.
I saw the whole video

There was no misrepresentation
 

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These chicks really be getting him in his feelings. I be like dude calm down shyt ain't that serious damn.

over a period of time I think it can get to you though. Knowing night after night you got people who still call not knowing what the topic is, people don’t unmute themselves, asking the same questions the last 5 chicks asked.:lolbron:

When I used to be a teacher my first year I had the patience of a saint. By year 4 during second semester I was damn near ready to cuss out students for asking me normal ass questions. Lol
 

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A lot of new white girls popping up on his show talking about “I heard you have good content”
:sas2:

Yup. Other groups, especially white girls have no problem being humble and taking advantage. These women will take the info and utilize it for their own group and for the black men they want.

I don’t blame them. A lot of women don’t want to be alone lol.

Covid was a wake up call.
 
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