Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[HarlemHottie]

Lets get the thread on track and leave the ethnic shyt out.

I didn't bring up ethnicity for the sake of it and will push back on the suggestion. He, non ados, literally asked me, an ados woman, what happened to ados women. Thus, I was not wrong for engaging him on that basis. I was not at all disrespectful.

If anybody seen me post, when I'm being messy, I do it on purpose. I use messy smilies and everything.

 

[Ahadi]

Y’all meeting him in NYC?

 

[Apollo Creed]

We're disagreeing on details. I, at 12, in 1993, was more up on feminism than any of my mother's friends (and I know bc I was allowed to stay in the room while they talked). I'm telling you what happened on the ground.

In fact, in retrospect, the class of women I was raised around (mostly low) never said "I don't need no man." That must have come from bw with good jobs, lol. I do know several educated bw forced to do it on their own bc their husband got strung out, tho. They didn't tout it at the time, maybe later to their daughters.

I have and will continue to dap you itt bc, as an 'outsider', you do have a useful perspective. I just don't think it's especially helpful at this point to, you know, shyt on ados for where we find ourselves. This is the generation recovering after a war that took out our elders (and left vast portions of our children to be raised by colonizers, ie, social services). Let's be truthful, but also mindful. No need for sensible ppl to argue amongst ourselves, there are much bigger fish to fry.

Cool?

The simple fact you were 12 yrs old and "up on feminist" instead of being a child is the problem. And to clarify I'm not saying that as a diss, I'm more so saying as a man that literally means nothing to him lol.

 

[Neuromancer]

you'll see that these woman who get mad at Kevin aint mad cause he wrong, they mad cause they saying there is no hope for them. Think about all the calls women calling in saying "IM A SINGLE MOM WHAT YOU MAN I AINT HIGH VALUE"

These folks be telling on themselves and cant even see it. Like if you are happy with your life, why are you calling into Kevin's show to prove him wrong? lol. And even then none of these women have secured a husband, they always got the same stories:
1.They "date" high value men all the time.
2.They been engaged numerous times/hand numerous men proposed but turned them down.

Women think being a side chick, or a late night g freak = dating.

Many of these lost women want to make human relations "transactional" but still get the benefits of actual commitment. I'm like you want a man to love you and trick? What? Why not just sell him your body for a flat fee and end the games?

I've never seen 30-40 year old men looking at teens and 20 yr olds as inspiration, but I see a ton of 30-40 year olds looking at Cardi B, City Girls, and Meg as inspiration. This is alarming. There is a reason many of the women who call into Kevin's show are in their 30s-40s but literally sound like children who can't get their thoughts together when presenting their point. Kevin literally asks Yes or No questions, and these folks delve into long winded responses that have nothing to do with the question.

Kevin : What ws your weight at your last weigh in and your height
Caller: Well I college I was depressed and my cat died, and I like listening to RnB, but I didn't like Rap Like that so I was never excited about working out.
Kevin: Ma'am I just asked for your weight
Caller: Well in 1993 I used to run track and was in shape
Kevin:Ma'am
Caller: Ok I`m 5 foot 1, 220 lbs

How reversible do you see this thinking? Do

 

[Apollo Creed]

How reversible do you see this thinking? Do

It isn't.

As a Man i this day and age if your cultural traditions is that of a Man being a Leader, and Wife is your help mate, then the pickings are going to be slim, and your best bet is to find a younger woman who is down to cooperate. If kids aren't your think then they dont have to be young, but chances are you will be dealing with an older woman with alot of psychological damage from her past, so you have to be prepared for that.

The biggest thing is finding a woman who believes in you that is down to listen to you and cooperate. If she cant cook, ok yall can do cooking classes, or you set her up with a side hustle and yall just do meal prep services, and she treats you to dinner dates every so often. If she isn't good at cleaning, then cool you set up a molly maid, the biggest thing is for the things she isn't good at, where does she bring value elsewhere? A woman should make your life easier not be a burden. Alot of young men take on burdens that stunt their growth, because during a time they should be building themselves up, they tryna make a chick happy that doesn't cook, clean, drive, etc.

 

[HarlemHottie]

The simple fact you were 12 yrs old and "up on feminist" instead of being a child is the problem.

I read everything I could get my hands on, highly respected black authors (Zora neale hurston, Alice walker, James baldwin, Carter g woodson), the labels on bathroom cleaners... Fym?

I attended a book signing for this book. Note the publication date. I was 5-6, and yes, I had already read it. I was already reading college textbooks.



How you think I got to the skiing and riding??? I had to work.

 

[HarlemHottie]

Y’all meeting him in NYC?

Nope. I've been told that I'm back on quarantine as of October 1.

Tbf, I'd only go if I were currently hunting, which I'm not.

 

[mamba]

With the baby daddy thing, Kevin said it best, why would a High Value man want you as a wife if you laid up with a man lower than him for free? It's one thing being Denzel Washingtons Ex Wife and you marry Sam Jackson. When you look at the Ciara thing people were triggered because Future is beneath Russ from a value perspective, and Ciara appears to have "came up", and of course regular woman see that and use it against men on some "SEE YALL NEED TO STEP UP, A REAL MAN DONT CARE IF A WOMAN GOT KIDS BEFORE HIM". If Ciara was married to someone higher value than future and had a kid and divorced I dont think anyone would care, but she was literally just having slum sex with Future and got knocked up. For example if Beyonce and Jay Z get divorced, and Beyonce gets with Jamie Foxx, i dont think people will trip because Jamie from what I understand isn't running around knocking up IG thots, and Beyonce's children came from a Marriage.

100% truth.

It’s why I don’t take most baby mamas seriously. Why would I lock down a woman who got skeeted in by and carried a bum’s baby full term?

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

This is the thing, it's easy to shift the blame on men. Men should lead, we all know this. But Kev made a great point, This is America only Women have the power to decide if a child should be born. Even if every woman who is pregnant is pregnant from rape, they still have the power to decide if that child should be alive or not. So with that said, if anything simply nobody should be having children, because 1.Men aint in position to lead 2.Women have no suitable partners to make a family with, BUT we know this isn't true. Listen to these callers, they literally dont know the purpose of marriage let alone why they want a high value man. They are leading with their salary and degree as to why they should have a man. They are coming to men with children from multiple men, and wanting these men to take care of them and these children ON TOP of saying they dont want anymore kids, and if they'd o then "maybe 1". They literally serve zero purpose to men but try to use the "you should be leading" argument to shame a man into taking on their baggage. As mentioned, a woman with no guidance of a man whether it be her husband or her father will always lead herself to a life of destruction.

 

[Hiphoplives4eva]

this is my thing, at what point do women take responsibility to groom their daughters to be wives? You cant use ADOS as being the reason when there are generations of women who were groomed to be wives. What we see today is a recent occurrence that came around the 80s. You have plenty of mothers who proactively ingrained in their daughters "dont be a housewife like me, go get your career and focus on yourself", these daughters listened, and end up miserable and alone, and instead of telling the next generation "dont be like me", they more so create a false sense of "I'm happy, I'm a boss" while they are miserable inside. It's almost as if they want more women to join them in living in misery.

This is my thing, people need to be honest, Marriage IS NOT for everyone, children ARE NOT for everyone, if you want to be 100% career driven then go for it, but being married is a career in itself. Men dont put up with working themselves to death to say "I'm a career man", they do it to obtain capital to provide for their family and build. Why is it that women dont have this same mindset? Why is it women who become "boss B's" dont say "Im going to provide for my husband and my family and build? Why is it that you (I'm not saying you im` speaking in general) are a "Boss" who dont need a man a man for nothing, still say you need a man who makes more and he has to provide for you? It's because alot of women are living in a state of confusion and going against their nature. This is why you see a trend of burnt out 30 yr olds, who spent their 30s catching hell from white supremacist in the work world, racking up debt, over eating, and binge drinking to ease their depression, and they see how miserable they are and now they want a man to save them and be stay at home mothers. And thing is they dont even want to be home makers they just want to not work, still have a nannie, not cook, just have the man pay off their debt, take them on vacation, and take care of their kids they bring in.

IMO all of these women are getting what they deserve and this should be a lesson to the future generation of men and women.

 

[Prynce]

Y’all still listen to this?

its gotten super stale now

 

[Balla]

Many of these lost women want to make human relations "transactional" but still get the benefits of actual commitment. I'm like you want a man to love you and trick? What? Why not just sell him your body for a flat fee and end the games?

I've never seen 30-40 year old men looking at teens and 20 yr olds as inspiration, but I see a ton of 30-40 year olds looking at Cardi B, City Girls, and Meg as inspiration. This is alarming. There is a reason many of the women who call into Kevin's show are in their 30s-40s but literally sound like children who can't get their thoughts together when presenting their point. Kevin literally asks Yes or No questions, and these folks delve into long winded responses that have nothing to do with the question.

Kevin : What ws your weight at your last weigh in and your height
Caller: Well I college I was depressed and my cat died, and I like listening to RnB, but I didn't like Rap Like that so I was never excited about working out.
Kevin: Ma'am I just asked for your weight
Caller: Well in 1993 I used to run track and was in shape
Kevin:Ma'am
Caller: Ok I`m 5 foot 1, 220 lbs

All this shyt is fukkin facts!!

 

[Astroslik]

Nope. I've been told that I'm back on quarantine as of October 1.

Tbf, I'd only go if I were currently hunting, which I'm not.

Hunting?

 

[MostReal]

when the false reality of feminism all comes crashing down

 

[Ahadi]

I bumped into dude at Bergdorf Goodman picking up some cologne