Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[Marc Spector]

As a military Officer I hear this.

People be looking at you funny at Dine Ins if you're a O-4 or above and not married or
no kids either

 

[Ezekiel 25:17]

This!

In that world, work doesn’t stop when you clock out. You (and your wife) getting invited to dinner. Hey bring the family to the lake house. Convention this weekend, bring the wife. The new client wants to go out and meet our families. Let’s do a retreat.

just a wedding ring alone speaks to your mindset and stability and leadership as a man.... to those old white fukks on the upper level.

it’s not even a guess. Stats show married men are more successful


Hell even Don Draper had to trot his wife out for the dinner parties. They knew how he got down with other women, but you can’t bring them hoes to the meeting with Henry Ford.

This is all white man shyt. Most black men ain't getting invited to all that. Besides, I rather me and the wife start our own business.

As a military Officer I hear this.

People be looking at you funny at Dine Ins if you're a O-4 or above and not married or
no kids either

Them are the same dudes that get cheated on or complain about paying thousands in child support What purpose is there to get married this day and age with divorce rates so high? I'd get some young side pieces and bring them through

 

[Commish]

There is a strong correlation between career success and marriage. On that point, he is entirely correct.

Now, whether the correlation is due to: (1) the path to success bringing many men into contact with women they are "compatible" with; (2) that "driven" and wealthier men are naturally more likely to date and marry within their peer group or; (3) that being married actually helps men become more successful - is a bit muddy.

Many women married to successful men do a lot of the heavy lifting; whether that is editing and helping develop ideas, bookkeeping, childcare, and homecare; connections and support from marriage - or anything number of other things.

I could smoke a bag of what you are saying, but..

IMO, the latter scenario you have presented tells me that said men have a strong support system at home and so more likely than not, their marriage is healthy. However, you also have a lot of people who are in unhealthy marriages.

I don't believe that a married man is more likely to be successful just off the strength of being married. A lot of people move up the corporate ladder of success based of who they know, who they blow or was simply at the right place at the right time.

What I can agree is that a man who is in a happy supportive marriage becomes more focused and driven to succeed because he have people he loves dearly that depends on him. That drive to provide is what creates a strong worth ethic which is a great thing..

But, a man who is single(by choice) can also be successful whether it is in a corporate setting or blue collar/labor setting.

If I was in a position to hire a qualified candidate for a high position, I am not gonna base my decision solely on his marital status. My focus would be based on his credentials related to the job and other factors unrelated to whether he is married or not.

Happy people have a better chance of becoming successful than people who are not happy whether they are married or not...

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Married men have all pressure in world. Work ya ass off to come home to a nagging wife and kids who drain your energy .Being single may keep me from certain promotions and perks in corporate America but at least I have peace of mind at end of day .

 

[Rocket Scientist]

Companies don't wanna hear "Hello I can't come in today my child is sick". Companies want someone who is flexible and always available.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Married men have all pressure in world. Work ya ass off to come home to a nagging wife and kids who drain your energy .Being single may keep me from certain promotions and perks in corporate America but at least I have peace of mind at end of day .

And this is the most important as a man. Other that other shyt is either adding or subtracting.

 

[WesCrook]

Married men have all pressure in world. Work ya ass off to come home to a nagging wife and kids who drain your energy .Being single may keep me from certain promotions and perks in corporate America but at least I have peace of mind at end of day .

No salary or job position can compensate for that.

 

[3rd Ward Swangin]

Godfather is single

Cuz look suspect,

 

[saturn7]

they also practice group economics the most though. marriage is not the only factor.



and the income/wealth breaksdown like that because the immigrant generation pushes their kids into the medical field, so it's not even really a corporate thing. most the asians/indians i've encountered in the corporate world work on the IT side anyway.

Those people when they come here 1. they bring their own culture 2. most come with advanced degrees so of course their children will also be successful.

They have huge advantages over native born black folks in those regards. That's why it's not fair to compare black folks to elite groups of non-black POC's.

 

[MajesticLion]

they also practice group economics the most though. marriage is not the only factor.



and the income/wealth breaksdown like that because the immigrant generation pushes their kids into the medical field, so it's not even really a corporate thing. most the asians/indians i've encountered in the corporate world work on the IT side anyway.

There's no structure for group economics that works without the family unit as a nucleus.

 

[deep]

He’s right now the question is once you are married is your wife adding value or is she subtracting?

Bingo.

This!

In that world, work doesn’t stop when you clock out. You (and your wife) getting invited to dinner. Hey bring the family to the lake house. Convention this weekend, bring the wife. The new client wants to go out and meet our families. Let’s do a retreat.

just a wedding ring alone speaks to your mindset and stability and leadership as a man.... to those old white fukks on the upper level.

it’s not even a guess. Stats show married men are more successful


Hell even Don Draper had to trot his wife out for the dinner parties. They knew how he got down with other women, but you can’t bring them hoes to the meeting with Henry Ford.

well thought out post. couldn't agree more

 

[Jeshaman]

I know loads of married bums. This is not applicable nowadays and I have nothing against marriage

 

[mamba]

Really depends on the industry.

You think people in Silicon Valley care whether or not you’re married? If you know your shyt, you will rise.

Now, for traditional corporate environments (GE, Honeywell, big law, big finance, etc.) this is probably true. But, as more millennials rise in corporate world, this will also change.

 

[Rocket Scientist]

And this is the most important as a man. Other that other shyt is either adding or subtracting.

You don't have peace of mind it's a wrap. Bills are bills they will go on when you are dead but mental health very vital.

 

[97Pac]

As a military Officer I hear this.

People be looking at you funny at Dine Ins if you're a O-4 or above and not married or
no kids either

Yep, you not going to get invited to those child birthday parties, or to married events as a single person. Those events are crucial for getting to know 0-6s and up who can help you climb the ladder.

On the other hand I rather be an entrepreneur and do what the fukk I want and not worry about a corporate ladder. That life seems miserable. The overwhelming majority of millionaires in America are business owners.

Married men have all pressure in world. Work ya ass off to come home to a nagging wife and kids who drain your energy .Being single may keep me from certain promotions and perks in corporate America but at least I have peace of mind at end of day .

Imagine working yo ass off all day, and normal stress of work them coming home to no food and a dirty house and screaming kids. Picking the right partner is a big part too. The overwhelming majority or married men I know did not pick a good partner.