Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

[ultraflexed]

exactly breh lmfaoooo they reeeeeeeal bold behind these computer screens

I got receipts for everything breh...niccaz ain't lying up in here, especially me.

I.." The shyt is goofy. We talking about shyt as a collective. If the shyt isnt real why the fukk is most black men single and childless.

It's not that it's not real but its greatly exaggerated. Birthrates are low across the board not just with black men, shyt the black population hasn't increased in more then 30 years % wise, we stay at 12-14%. More Americans overall are choosing not to have kids, white birthrates have fallen also..

Another factor is, niccaz is broke, and black have learned not to be broke and have kids, 64% in the middle class but that's the low end of middle class if you factor in only 10% black men earn over 70k a year which is top 20% overall.

Like mentioned in the previous post, dating out isnt the answers, getting your money up is.

 

[Kano]

you're absolutely right. At no point in human history did more than 50% of the boys have children I think like 87% of girls did.


The victorian era basically put a thumb on the scale for white men. White incels who couldn't score bunz at home could become a solider sailor or merchant and eat off of the women who were colonized and if Africa and India there's whole ethnic groups made up of half cacs.


Although Kev speaks for them no high value Man is gonna call into his show and really they don't generally have these problems because they are high value. The High Value shyt is mainly a marketing talking point had he advocated for "mid tier dudes" women wouldn't have bothered to call in and he wouldn't have gotten the clout.

the Victorian era is a great example of how unforgiving the sexual market can be. To think most wars had astronomical rates of male deaths. Chinas 1 child rule which often favored males over females is rearing it’s ugly head in this generation and future generations. Fundamentally different than natural selection but the results are similar. If the sexual market favors one extreme that imbalance somehow sorts itself out naturally and the rest die off. Sad but that’s just how the world works

I do agree that women control access to sex and men control access to relationships (marriage). As time goes on and that standard keeps getting higher and higher; survival of the fittest and nature will play itself out.

True, there’s an element of marketing ploy that’s captivating. He has leverage as a high value man and has a vantage point that’s above the callers.

 

[KillerB88]

Breh you using say that BW are using anecdotal experiences to make decisions and that's wrong in one paragraph and the first sentence of the next paragraph you're doing the same thing when you say BW have turned their back on us.




While I do think some BW typecast the whole group based on their own experiences it seems some of us do that too. I just don't think MOST black women have turned their back on BM.

- We are much more likely to marry out
- MOST biracial children statistically have black fathers
- 70% of our children are being born out of wedlock, BOTH genders play a role in that

And what is the end game if you TRULY believe that BW have sold us out Who do we procreate and raise our children with? How do we build a cohesive prosperous community? What do you mean by "move accordingly"?

Looking at the other gender as the antagonist is buying into external programming that has been what "they" wanted systemically the entire time.

I believe most of our women want us and most of us want them, both sides just need some therapy and healing and need to take their pride out of it.

We “marry out” more because we’re more desirable. That’s the uncomfortable truth. Black women can’t approach a non black male to pursue a relationship the way we can approach non black women. Outside of basic gender dynamics there are several factors at play dictating that. But in the end, the overarching point is that they’re not being approached by those men. I know a black guy I went to undergrad with who did his grad work at Harvard. Now he works in Elizabeth Warrens office, and the girl he married looks like a literal hippo. She’s a nice girl, it’s just she looks horrible. No accomplished non black man comparable to him would choose that over a woman of his own race. But if he wanted to find a non black woman in DC, his credentials and current position would make him desirable to all those women.

 

[ultraflexed]

No pun but ados females easiest to bag when it comes to online dating

Were talking marriages so your point obsolete

 

[HARLEM AL]

I got receipts for everything breh...niccaz ain't lying up in here, especially me.




It's not that it's not real but its greatly exaggerated. Birthrates are low across the board not just with black men, shyt the black population hasn't increased in more then 30 years % wise, we stay at 12-14%. More Americans overall are choosing not to have kids, white birthrates have fallen also..

Another factor is, niccaz is broke, and black have learned not to be broke and have kids, 64% in the middle class but that's the low end of middle class if you factor in only 10% black men earn over 70k a year which is top 20% overall.

Like mentioned in the previous post, dating out isnt the answers, getting your money up is.

But the broke nikkas are having the most kids. So I dont know if I fully agree with that....

 

[ultraflexed]

We “marry out” more because we’re more desirable. That’s the uncomfortable

Maybe uncomfortable but it's not true.
For men on online dating app black men ranked near the bottom only above Indian men.

And being desired for sex vs marriage is 2 different things, if that were the case black men would be married at a much higher rate

 

[KillerB88]

Kevin Samuels usually is on point but you can miss me with ANY suggestion that a black man should be with any one other than a black woman. Yes we have a lot to fix when it comes to the chasm between black men and black women and certainly there are a segment of black women that need to accept accountability for THEIR roles in widening that chasm.


But i’ll cut off my left hand before I abandon black women. fukk all that other shyt

Calm down Cpt. Hook All he said was don’t limit your options and let the years pass you by without creating a family because you’re waiting for a black woman who’s willing to build with you.

 

[ultraflexed]

But the broke nikkas are having the most kids. So I dont know if I fully agree with that....

Those broke breh's pookie an ray are praised in our community for being alpha males and on looks and that's why they can be broke an pull bytches, but the whites community has that too

 

[Treblemaka]

you're absolutely right. At no point in human history did more than 50% of the boys have children I think like 87% of girls did.

Like mentioned in the previous post, dating out isnt the answers, getting your money up is.

All of this

A good half of men historically don't get to procreate and that's reflective in current stats for BM. Of those that do have children too many are not even attempting (via marriage) to give their children the best shot possible economically with a two parent household.

The bottom line is marriage rates a decreasing because of a lack of economic stability. Fixing that as BM will fix alot of problems in our community. Its not a simple, quick, or easy fix, but we can't even start to fix it if we don't acknowledge the problems. Dating out only increases the economic problems not solve them.

 

[HARLEM AL]

Those broke breh's pookie an ray are praised in our community for being alpha males and on looks and that's why they can be broke an pull bytches, but the whites community has that too

No argument from me…

 

[Nigerianwonder]

I had a response to shut this goofy shyt down. Im just going leave it.

Some of you nikkas just dont know who yall be talking to. nikkas having a legit conversation about black men choices but nikkas want to charge dudes up with "yall not successful like me and my homies. we never had a problem....." The shyt is goofy. We talking about shyt as a collective. If the shyt isnt real why the fukk is most black men single and childless.

Cause they CHOOSE to be. That's why. there are plenty of desperate average and below average looking women that can be wifed up by average men. The numbers are heavily skewed in men's favor. there are way more women than men.. That's why even average dudes are running through chicks and having sex.. not trying to settle down. Men control access to marriage. Lets stop the cap. Most black men are NOT trying to be locked down and married in their 20s. We tend to try to settle down in the late 30s and 40s which also lines up with us getting settled into our careers and being able to be a provider.

the problem I have is incels grouping their issues in with those of average and high value men.

 

[Treblemaka]

We “marry out” more because we’re more desirable. That’s the uncomfortable truth. Black women can’t approach a non black male to pursue a relationship the way we can approach non black women. Outside of basic gender dynamics there are several factors at play dictating that. But in the end, the overarching point is that they’re not being approached by those men. I know a black guy I went to undergrad with who did his grad work at Harvard. Now he works in Elizabeth Warrens office, and the girl he married looks like a literal hippo. She’s a nice girl, it’s just she looks horrible. No accomplished non black man comparable to him would choose that over a woman of his own race. But if he wanted to find a non black woman in DC, his credentials and current position would make him desirable to all those women.

That makes sense. The ones of us that marry out are typically better educated and earn more than the average BM.

But that makes it worse. It means some of ones with the most to give to Black America economically are choosing to give their economic wealth to a non blk woman when they die (women typically out live men even when married) which further disproves the claim that BW have abandoned us when BM marrying out does more economic damage to our community.

BM are supposed to be the leaders in our communities. That means everything we do matters more than what BW do. From who we choose to impregnate, to who we marry, to how present we are in our children's lives, to our rate of earning, our employment rates, to our entrepreneurial rates, to the crimes we commit.

VVhite men figured this out centuries ago and it's why we are the number one target of systemic oppression. They know that if we abdicate our place in our communities the whole community dies a slow death.

And statistically we are not in our place like we should be.

 

[goatmane]

interesting show ...

Some men and women are not destined to pass their genetics. If that number sky rockets in the future than so be it that’s nature works. Thoughts?

society cant run like that breh..

telling 80% of men "too bad! your genetics arent good enough to attract a decent woman unless you luck out and become a millionaire " they just gon check out.

especially when we see the previous generation were regular dudes.

thats whats happening in Asia / Europe / USA rn with millenials / Gen Z.

also the fact is, with dating apps changed the game. hypergamy in 2010 is not the same as 1900

To add, Kevin constantly mentions high value and the criteria to be in that category. Most men who listen to the show aren’t high value statistically speaking. The irony is that his demographic isn’t commenting or watching the show that he constantly references.

ofc the vast majority of his show is not making 6 figures. that would be impossible. he gets 30k viewers a night

only 9% of Americans make over 100k, most of that is White and Asian men. and those black men average age is closer to 50 (Kevin Samuels age) than 25. why would they be on youtube?

 

[ultraflexed]

the problem I have is incels grouping their issues in with those of average and high value men.

This statement right here just won the battle

 

[Neuromancer]

@bitterpeople who agree with me.

am I doing this right?