Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

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Petty Vandross.. fukk Yall
That article is the exact reason these women are in the position they are in
Instead of looking in the mirror and actually applying
Accountability for their actions
Building a real personality
Dealing with past traumas(family and personal)
Getting help
Getting healthy in spirit , mind and body
The cycle will just continue
And they wonder why men are just singing
fukk this shyt I’m out
 

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What’s her alternative? It’s rhetorical, btw.

She deliberately omitted KS main points of it all. More importantly, women are wising up to the pander game and seeing that these people do not have their best intentions at heart. What upsets me is the disingenuous and corrupt nature of the dissenters of KS.

Another point, is they can’t beat the points and stats so they are trying another narrative because child support and gay ain’t work. Now, they are saying he is pushing eurocentric standards. By telling our women to lose weight, be more conscious of their health and diet, and value their fitness. All while being natural. Fighting tooth and nail with women who are set on wearing weaves and long, useless nails.
Most of married black women right now in my real life (my age group) are all usually natural or are mainly natural throughout the year regardless of their health (unhealthy, healthy, etc) when I think about
 

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crazy how when you ask them to bring shyt, it's unrealistic standards. but those unrealistic standards for men are "bare minimum"

so who are the ones settling again?

the whole point of a high value man is the scarcity. and this bytch said it's nearly impossible for black men to be high earner cause they all in jail. this bytch is one of those people who thinks their shytty low quality circle of people is the whole community. I know black men making good HVM money but are moving like Al Haymon. The ones who are single have their pick. People who arent cliqued in shouldnt get to talk about this shyt
Exactly this shyt makes me defend Kevin and I'd totally understand if a woman didn't want to call in and be roasted by someone she doesn't know.

But Damn first of all they know criticism of him helps him yet they can't help themselves I notice ever since the Macklessons era Black women have kinda ignored Tariq but Kevin's name keeps being brought up outside of the manosphere. I mean right now duke has half the subs that EDP445 had but you'd never be able to tell based on the amount of weeping and gnashing of teeth Kevin gets.

I remember chicks roasted Steve Harvey for even suggesting that maybe Black women (without saying Black women) should lower their standards. The main reason bytches call in to Kevin is because most women want a High Value, High Status High Clouted Man. If they didn't they wouldn't stand stil for the roasting. The other reason is the Floyd Mayweather effect where people pay to see him lose Chicks hope that one chick will be able to roast him on his own platform.

Then she attempted to use the We All Black talking point, Like Black women haven't managed to make Hotep a dirty word.

If women weren't so stupid and emotional Kevin would be broke.
 

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Exactly this shyt makes me defend Kevin and I'd totally understand if a woman didn't want to call in and be roasted by someone she doesn't know.

But Damn first of all they know criticism of him helps him yet they can't help themselves I notice ever since the Macklessons era Black women have kinda ignored Tariq but Kevin's name keeps being brought up outside of the manosphere. I mean right now duke has half the subs that EDP445 had but you'd never be able to tell based on the amount of weeping and gnashing of teeth Kevin gets.

I remember chicks roasted Steve Harvey for even suggesting that maybe Black women (without saying Black women) should lower their standards. The main reason bytches call in to Kevin is because most women want a High Value, High Status High Clouted Man. If they didn't they wouldn't stand stil for the roasting. The other reason is the Floyd Mayweather effect where people pay to see him lose Chicks hope that one chick will be able to roast him on his own platform.

Then she attempted to use the We All Black talking point, Like Black women haven't managed to make Hotep a dirty word.

If women weren't so stupid and emotional Kevin would be broke.


Yep I made this statement awhile back, women are only calling in because in their deluded mind they believe Kevin Samuels will help them find a High Value Man, that's why his show will always be popping. There's no shortage of delusional women thinking they deserve the top 5% man. And like you said there's a second category of women who think they will "own" him in an argument, which always falls flat. :mjlol:
 

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Most asian women go back to they men tho before they get too old. Most asians are married to asians
That's besides the point Asian women do whatever it takes to get the bag. They use that submissive shyt to mask hard core gold digging.

Besides that super submissive shyt only works till they get a ring or a nice situation. 90 day Fiance showed how some of these asian women get down.
 

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Yep I made this statement awhile back, women are only calling in because in their deluded mind they believe Kevin Samuels will help them find a High Value Man, that's why his show will always be popping. There's no shortage of delusional women thinking they deserve the top 5% man. And like you said there's a second category of women who think they will "own" him in an argument, which always falls flat. :mjlol:
bytches think that Mute button is there for shyts and giggles. I'm sure there's some chick with a nice mouthpiece that could done him in a debate but thinking you're gonna clown him in a call is goofy.

The other reason is generally everyone agrees with his overall talking points the issue is how he says it.
 

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looks like someone greenlighted kevin:wow:
expect The View to have a whole episode on bashin him soon

How pseudo-love guru Kevin Samuels exploits the vulnerability of Black women

Eartha Hopkins
Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:28 PM·7 min read


Eartha Hopkins
Mon, May 17, 2021, 6:28 PM·7 min read


OPINION: In a racist, white supremacist environment, Samuels’ assertions only affirm an Anglo-Saxon ideology using Black women as an easy scapegoat

Kevin Samuels is a YouTube sensation and self-appointed “professional image consultant.” His meteoric rise to fame on social media arose from his slick-tongue comments aimed at, in particular, Black women. His advice to ‘modern Black woman’ searching for a “high-value man” mixes hard truths with a dose of entertainment.

His platform opens a space for much-needed conversations addressing women’s accountability in relationships; however, his framework is rooted in an imperialist worldview that subtly reinforces anti-Blackness. Like so many YouTube experts before him, he exploits the pain and vulnerability of Black women’s quest for love while the world watches for recreation.

On his platform, Samuels says his perspective represents the modern, high-value Black man while cautioning women opposing this perspective. In a racist, white supremacist environment, Kevin Samuels’ assertions only affirm an Anglo-Saxon ideology using Black women as an easy scapegoat.

Unrealistic Expectations
Samuels maintains “the market” defines a high-value man by six core principles: a man’s ability to make at least $10,000 monthly for at least five years, the acceptance from a group of other high-value men, access to a network, like a fraternity, high visibility of a man’s position, and utility of that group. The caveat is that his definition makes former Vice President Donald Trump look like a promising suitor.

Suppose Black women take his advice at face value. In that case, it creates an unrealistic aspiration of seeking a Black male partner, with the median income for Black men being $814 weekly and only 10% of America’s total population of men earning six figures. Not to mention, incarceration rates for Black men are double that of white men in the U.S. It’s nearly impossible for these men to qualify for the remaining principals.

Rather than use these statistics as a guiding post to compel Black women to reframe their definitions and expectations of potential Black male mates, he instead uses women’s desire for stability by comparing Black men against a white-male standard, labeling lower earners as “average.” This basic premise places Black men in a seemingly undesirable position by default while leading women down a dead-end path to seek an unrealistic minority of the male population.

Objectification of Women
To add fuel to the fire, Kevin Samuels often ranks his guests using his coined term, their “sexual marketplace value,” and bases their attractiveness on height, weight, dress size, and physical features. If, to his belief, a woman is “below average” or an eight or less on a 10-point scale, he suggests they lower their standards of attraction to high-value men and settle for men deemed average, or worse, less than average, to meet their personal and relational needs.

In one video, Samuels compares a Black woman’s physique to former NFL linebackers Emmitt Smith and Barry Sanders, claiming that her weight reduces her options for companionship.

“You’re a running-back size. You could get the A gap like a motherf###ker. So don’t come up in here talking about what men can and cannot do when they got to accept somebody who could run out the power eye,” he facetiously continues, “You should be so grateful that a high-value man would pick you over a woman who is 5’4, 120 pounds, and a dress size four.”

Misogynoir
This “tough-love” advice oozes misogynoir, amplifying a historically racist and westernized view of beauty that only serves to demean and Black women.

If that were not indicative enough of how his Eurocentric perspective leaves Black women open for attack, his hyper-focus on surface discourse surely seals the deal. He consistently perpetuates click-bait conversations that incite reality-TV-esque squabbles. But, is unable to properly acknowledge white supremacy as the driving force behind this divisiveness. Instead, he plays a trope role of antagonist against Black women.

In the same breath, Kevin Samuels casually references author Shahrazad Ali’s book, “The Blackman’s Guide To Understanding The Black Woman,” to discipline women’s behaviors, he also quickly follows simultaneously encouraging Black women to follow white women’s lead and allow their high-value men to explore options of multiple mistresses.

His short-sightedness concerning the impact of racism seemingly aims only to blame the oppressed for being oppressed, citing Black people’s need to become a more “competitive people,” while accusing Black people of remaining in ‘victimhood.’ Samuels recently appeared as a guest on The Lapeef Let’s Talk Show, where he provided his insight on women feeling pressured to showcase their natural beauty. When asked about racism, he replied, “It’s not about racism. It’s about winners and losers.”

Toxic Masculinity
Kevin Samuels is the poster child for a group of Black men in dire need of love and acceptance from the world. His bootstraps rhetoric screams, “pick me,” from white men who clearly have no interest in doing so. He serves Uncle Ruckus vibes on a platter using every statistic he can find to project his own internalized self-hatred. It’s absolutely egregious and dangerous that this man who has been on the planet for more than half a century would proudly encourage assimilation as a viable solution to the relationship woes between Black women and men of today.

If he is the “Godfather,” responsible for leading the new wave of Black male masculinity, it would seem odd that his first victims would be Black women who, even today, are his greatest allies.

False expertise
Another problematic aspect of Samuels’s premise is the fact that he is claiming expertise on a topic that he’s clearly unqualified to address. According to LinkedIn, he studied chemical engineering and had a series of sales roles before becoming an image consultant.

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With no background in marriage and relationship therapy, psychology, gender-related issues, or anything relevant to his platform, he spews out “advice” devoid of social context. He blatantly ignores gender and racial socialization and refuses to address the history of racist, sexist ideals or the role of societal oppression in the way Black women are viewed. He perpetuates deep-seated myths and stereotypes about Black women as inherently flawed and lacking value outside of their sex appeal.

Samuels uses a distorted, uninformed lens to spread a harmful agenda. By doing this, he joins the ranks of other fake relationship experts who lack actual expertise but who have a lot to say about what Black women need to do in order to “get a man.” In an age in which anyone can get a platform no matter how unqualified they are, men such as Samuels are profiting off of racist and sexist narratives that justify the mistreatment of Black women.

Internalized hatred
When Black women allow pseudo-relationship gurus like him and others to determine their value and potential as a partner by white standards, they open themselves to continuous self-infliction, tragic self-esteem levels, and, quite frankly, decision-making rooted in predominately opinion-based information rather than facts.

When it comes to love, unfortunately, there is no Eurocentric rubric capable of quantifying this. One must also consider the source of any given advice — is the source adequately educated? Does the source have the necessary cultural lens and experience to provide consultation and have they, themselves, healed internal trauma to project others down “the right path of love?”

It’s hard to tell when advice is sought from an overnight Instagram and YouTube celebrity who may fizzle out of fame once he faces his own internal demons.

lol @ all the buzzwords. I can't believe she forgot "colorism".

So wanting women to be smaller than you and less than 200 pounds = Anglo-Saxon ideology??
Objectification of women?? SMH playing stupid like women aren't judged or selected by men based on their looks. How old is the writer of this article? Why is she playing dumb on how the "Sexual Marketplace" works? Men have had to understand how this works and how we fit in very early on in life. Then adapt.

Unrealistic expectations? Has she even watched a full episode of his show because he says the exact opposite. He's trying to get women to understand what would be a realistic option for them based on their market value.

Dumbasses like DJ Envy and the writer of this article think they will hurt KS by attacking, this type of stuff will only spread his message and make him more popular.
 

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That's besides the point Asian women do whatever it takes to get the bag. They use that submissive shyt to mask hard core gold digging.

Besides that super submissive shyt only works till they get a ring or a nice situation. 90 day Fiance showed how some of these asian women get down.

This is why I always question the submissiveness and femininity of a lot of asian women. When I went to Japan, I realized they were leaps and bounds better to deal with than the modern american woman, but at the same time them J-Brehs is on GMB 3.0 for a reason that aint been made aware to me yet. :patrice:
 
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This is why I always question the submissiveness and femininity of a lot of asian women. When I went to Japan, I realized they were leaps and bounds better to deal with than the modern american woman, but at the same time to them J-Brehs is on GMB 3.0 for a reason that aint been made aware to me yet. :patrice:


I heard from Asian brehs that Asian hoes are hard super hard on simps. I know a Korean dude that worked with me, He came over did a couple of years in the Army got out and had a jewelry business, It went out of business and he spent like 6 months crying on his couch living off his savings. He's so called submissive Korean wife told his ass he'd better do something or she was bushing his ass. He got a Government job in record time.

Again no one knows exactly why but all over the rich countries in Asia hoes are bushing their men, foreign nikkas although not liked by asians in general eat good over there, It's like their whole society is made up of Bedwenches. When I was in Iraq a Phillipina chick told me she was fukking with a major but she left the door open for me to trick off. I wasn't stationed at Victory so even if I wanted to I couldn't do it.

The Red pill is for everyone.
 

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This is why I always question the submissiveness and femininity of a lot of asian women. When I went to Japan, I realized they were leaps and bounds better to deal with than the modern american woman, but at the same time to them J-Brehs is on GMB 3.0 for a reason that aint been made aware to me yet. :patrice:


In Africa I've seen African brehs with Chinese wives and children, In fact I've seen Kenyan Man Chinese chicks more than I seen it the other way around, Chinese dude might pipe African women on the low but they generally do not wife. In my Condo complex I saw Chinese nikkas bring Chinese thotties through, I'm saying they were thots because the Dudes lived in a Condo together and I saw Chinese bytches with short ass skirts coming through (In Africa in general mini skirts is seen as a no-no even straight whores don't wear short skirts) What I think it is is it's like with cacs. They shyt on nikkas so much that like how Black women shytting on Kevin drives traffic to him talking down on Black Men attracts Asain chicks to Black Men.

Also I really think that asian chicks are bag focused they really don't care how a dude looks as long as he can help her. The nikkas that I seen wifed up with chinese chicks didn't seem like they were balling out of control but they weren't broke I saw them in Airports and driving high end cars.
 
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