Kevin Samuels Discussion Thread

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Most grown Black men are childlike, breh.

No one respects the Black man.

The world admires our ability to rap, sing, play sports, etc.

But, when it comes to the real shyt in life, no one really believes we have the capability to consistently perform at a high level.

As much as Kevin holds up a mirror to Black women, we need someone who does the same for Black men in good faith. Because, as I get older and look around, there are very few Black men who are serious about making moves.

At the macro level there are a lot of legacy reasons for this.

How the world views black men shouldn't let anyone steer away from their objectives.

It's every man for himself and those with the skills, resources and wherewithal will achieve what they want and politic as they see fit.

There is no "we" for someone to hold a mirror to. "We" aren't a monolith ...no matter what your anecdotal experience is.
 

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Yeah, it's plainly obvious these guys are taking a message that's been sold to them here by second grade-level reading comprehending retards and not actually taking into account what Kevin Samuels himself actually says. They're like women creating an argument to argue against. @Piff Perkins says he lives in a nice little middle-class suburban area, likely where his neighbors are high five figures, low six figures earners who need their wives' dual income, because they're living paycheck to paycheck above their means - that's not what Kevin Samuels is referring to when he talks about "high value men." Like women, they also argue the exception as the rule.

If they actually listened to the content, rather than the paraphrases of Coli retards whose reading comprehension extends up to "bad bytch" IG model captions, they'd hear him - multiple times - explaining career women married to "high value men" normally meet said man in or right after college and go through the ups and downs of his twenties and early thirties with him. What the fukk is even the purpose of bringing up these already-married men to women who want to date and marry, dummies? A single male corporate lawyer who becomes partner in his mid-thirties is not looking to marry his early-thirties female colleague who has two pre-teen kids from a swag daddy "hustler."
If he is single with no kids, then he'll meet and marry a single woman with no kids as well. The idea that she has to be a home maker is wrong imo though. Or should allow him to cheat or as he says "explore his options".
 

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If he is single with no kids, then he'll meet and marry a single woman with no kids as well. The idea that she has to be a home maker is wrong imo though. Or should allow him to cheat or as he says "explore his options".

Post the exact video, timestamped where Kevin Samuels says what you're assigning to him.
 

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Yeah, it's plainly obvious these guys are taking a message that's been sold to them here by second grade-level reading comprehending retards and not actually taking into account what Kevin Samuels himself actually says. They're like women creating an argument to argue against. @Piff Perkins says he lives in a nice little middle-class suburban area, likely where his neighbors are high five figures, low six figures earners who need their wives' dual income, because they're living paycheck to paycheck above their means - that's not what Kevin Samuels is referring to when he talks about "high value men." Like women, they also argue the exception as the rule.

If they actually listened to the content, rather than the paraphrases of Coli retards whose reading comprehension extends up to "bad bytch" IG model captions, they'd hear him - multiple times - explaining career women married to "high value men" normally meet said man in or right after college and go through the ups and downs of his twenties and early thirties with him. What the fukk is even the purpose of bringing up these already-married men to women who want to date and marry, dummies? A single male corporate lawyer who becomes partner in his late-thirties is not looking to marry his mid-thirties female colleague who has two pre-teen kids from a swag daddy "hustler."

I've already posted facts, you're posting emotions. The highest earning professions in this country are engineers, lawyers, doctors, etc. Who are they married to? If you're making six figures - which is what I'm talking about - you are statistically more likely to marry someone making similar money. That's just a fact. It's clear most people in KS threads have never been around successful people and live off this man's ducktales.

Let's go a step higher, to the people making even more money than doctors and lawyers. Who do CEOs marry? Who do high profile politicians marry? Show me the housewives brehs. The majority of them are married to successful women who make good money. I get why KS doesn't know this - he's a gay man who has never been in a real relationship with a woman; and no I'm not talking about make pretend marriages where you pretend to be a regular guy for the masses. But what excuse do yall have?

End of the day this comes down to an obsession with power, and the ego of men who can't handle the fact that women are lapping them in the economic race. Not all or most women obviously. But KS threads are NOT full of Coli brehs who are lawyers, doctors, etc. Yall are working at warehouses, Amazon, retail, and whatever else talking about "I don't care what a woman makes." Well she cares what you make, which is why she ignores your ass. But instead of taking that as a challenge and bossing up, brehs sink into a corner and allow con men to tell them "actually you aren't the loser. SHE'S the loser and it doesn't matter how much money she makes." Good luck with that.
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I'm done with this thread and will not return to KS shyt until the inevitable, undeniable proof that he's a gay man. It's coming, before the end of the year. I'll put a ban bet on that.
 

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High income, single men in their mid-thirties and up do not marry women who have the same level of income as they do.
High income, single men in their mid-thirties and up do not marry women who are close to their age range.
High income, single men in their mid-thirties and up do not marry women whose priority is "career."
High income, single men in their mid-thirties and up do not marry women with kids.
 

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I'm late to the game and it's already 17 pages.

The dance team is a cheerleading squad now? :dwillhuh:

:shaq: Only dance teams I had in school were girls and the one zesty dude. Same as cheerleading.

Kevin is like 50 years old. High school was 32 years ago for him. Doubt someone his age would remember going to high school with him that long ago.


you definitely remember a number of people you went to school with.
 
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And this is why understanding tradeoffs and opportunity costs are important, especially for men. Generally speaking if you want your child to be competitive at that level you have to make several huge tradeoffs. And that may mean sacrificing living in a Tier 1 city, having only 1 kid, buying a smaller house in a great school district, or waiting to have kids until the late 30's (this is another reason an age gap is beneficial).

My ex didn't understand how I wanted to raise a kid and that's why we broke up. I had a lot of peaks and valleys in my academic career, and my parents not understanding the role of financially investing in your kid played a part. Like many working class parents they wanted to simulatenously self actualize and help their kids self actualize, but that only works if you make alot of money.

However, my ex like my parents believed that academic outcomes was mainly about individual talent and hard work. Whereas, having competed and worked with the upper middle class understand those factors are neccessary but insufficient, they emphasize financial investment in education and creating networks so that their kids can benefit from being plugged in throughout their careers.

The difference in mindset and process is how my friend whose parents paid $20k per yr/$240k total in private school, ended up receiving a full scholarship for both undergrad and law school, and eventually got a job at elite firm making over $180k a year. In sum, his parents spent $240k on the front end to put their kid in position to make $180k per year on the back end with no student loan debt and the potential to obtain and secure an elite network.
:wow: damn good parents
 

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Somebody in the other thread said nobody should take the white "KS saved my marriage" woman seriously bc she refers to her husband as her master.

As bp, we naturally have an aversion to that particular title so i understand, but is "Daddy" really any better? Or is the real problem how freely she submits to him? If so, why?

:jbhmm: Men, could you please decode this modern man logic for me?
dudes thinking they are going to gain simp points.
 

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hmm. Its unfortunate. Semblances of black male strength are this threatening? KS niche is essentially counter narrative to toxic feminism and honest critique to black male docility/under performance. A bit of an ode to traditionalism too. More than anything tho, its the black male perspective voiced from a heterosexual BM. There are other men doing this, but why is he targed? I haven't seen egregiousness from him....not to outright demand he be erased. That's interesting.
 

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His fatherless stans in here talking bout "It was the 80's".

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