Kenyon Martin says lebron was never considered a lockdown defender at any point of his career

[Trojan 24]

Cac Wright said he can defend 1-5 though

 

[Goat poster]

Ask derozen or Steph Curry about playoff Bron.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

Bron fans love saying that bull. That shyt was more a team defensive scheme and other factors than just "cause Bron


Rose was our only offense weapon. It was easy for Heat to plan a defensive plan to stop us, as Rose was the offense

Plus Boozer was trash

And Bosh was killing us

If it was so easy for the Heat to stop Rose, then why didn't everyone else do it all season?

Ya'all had Rose, Deng, Boozer, Korver...it wasn't like you had nobody on offense. It wasn't the best offense and you sacrificed some of your offense for defense, but it wasn't like you had nobody.

 

[Tommy Sheppard]

yup



LeBron James starting to take late-game defensive challenge against opponent's best



LeBron James starting to take late-game defensive challenge against opponent's best




LeBron James guarded Dennis Schroder, Hawks with beautiful mind



LeBron James guarded Dennis Schroder, Hawks with beautiful mind

bronny probably weighs as much as Schroeder and he is 13, he is supposed to lock down a 175 pound point guard who he has a 100 pound advantage on

 

[Controversy]

lebron was better than kawhi 2 season ago on defense but it went unnoticed


The usual field goal percent of the shooter that the player is defending
LeBron - 44.8%
Kawhi - 44.9%

Defense Dashboard

2pt FGs - Players shot 8.2% worse than their average when defended by LeBron
2pt FGs - Players shot 7.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi
3pt FGs - Players shots 2.7% worse than their average when defended by LeBron
3pt FGs - Players shot 1.3% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi
Overall - Players shot 7.4% worse than their average when defended by LeBron on 8.4 Defended FGs Per Game
Overall - Players shot 5.7% worse than their average when defended by Kawhi on 9.4 Defended FGs Per Game

Play type

When they were the closest isolation defender
LeBron - 69 possessions, .59 points per possession allowed, 28.8% eFG
Kawhi - 61 possessions, .69 points per possession allowed, 31% eFG

When they were the closest defender to the PnR ball handler
LeBron - 144 possessions, .66 ppp allowed, 37.1 eFG
Kawhi - 243 possessions, .65 ppp allowed, 35.8 eFG

When they were the roll man defender
LeBron - 10 possessions, .7 ppp, 38.9 eFG
Kawhi - 30 possessions, .5 ppp, 27.8 eFG

Post defense
LeBron - 43 possessions, .77 ppp, 40 eFG
Kawhi - 31 possessions, .77 ppp, 41.7 eFG

On spot up shooters
LeBron - 210 possessions, .8 ppp, 41.6 eFG
Kawhi - 200 possessions, .88 ppp, 43.6 eFG

Hand-offs
LeBron - 43 possessions, .49 ppp, 33.9 eFG
Leonard - 58 possessions, .72 ppp, 39.5 eFG

Off screens
LeBron - 78 possessions, .74 ppp, 40.8 eFG
Kawhi - 96 possessions, 1.05 ppp, 51.2 eFG


Undeniable PROOF LeBron is the best defender in the NBA... GOAT Level Defense - Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops



2016 playoffs


LeBron 2016 Playoffs (21 games)

3.2/10.2 Defensive FGs defended

Overall, held opponents to 31.8% FG (Their average FG% was 45.9%

This is a differential of -14.1% (He held opponents to -14.8% their average FG%), which is by far the best mark... For comparison, Draymond was next best at -8.4%

SOURCE: http://stats.nba.com/defensivehub/#!...?sort=GP&dir=1

To break it down even further to perimeter defense and Rim protection..

3PT DEFENSE

LeBron was the Cavs best 3pt defender, and along with Livingtson and context taken into account, the best 3pt defenders

0.9/3.8 Defensive Field Goals Defended

Held opponent 3pt shooters to 24.1% (Their average 3PT% was 36.7%)

This is a differential of -12.6%

Only one guy who played 15+ playoff games (Shawn Livingston) had a slightly better differential (Abet on lower volume)

SOURCE: http://stats.nba.com/defensivehub/#!...USMINUS&dir=-1

RIM PROTECTION

1.4/3.3 Defensive Field Goals Defended

Held opponents at the rim to 43.5%

The best rim protection % on the Cavs

For reference Bogut held opponents to 46.6%, and Tristan Thompson 49.2%

SOURCE: http://stats.nba.com/defensivehub/#!...&sort=GP&dir=1


Finals Averages...
2.3 Blocks a game
2.6 Steals a game

2016 Playoff Averages
2.3 Steals a game
1.3 Blocks a game

In the last 3 games, LeBron averaged 3 blocks and 3 steals per game

So you mean to tell me LBJ defended the same caliber of player as Kawhi?

Man cut it out, Kawhi defends elite players & LBJ is hidden in def

 

[Art Barr]

To be fair, very few players are ever actually truly lock down defenders. Even guys like Chris Paul still get WORKED by the likes of Stephen curry.


Even Michael Jordan never actually guarded his oppenents best player (Larry bird, Isiah thomas, etc)

Wtf ...

Joe dumars dispels this bullshyt.
Stop it.
Jordan = the original glove

Art Barr

 

[Controversy]

I've never heard a competent person that knows basketball say Pippen wasn't a lockdown defender. The fact that you even said this is appalling. Who guarded the best players on opposing teams when the Bulls won their 6 championships? You think Pippen averged almost 3 steals per game by just getting deflections and not on ball defense? He could guard 1-4 easily

As someone old enough to watch Pip in his prime, he was a savant on defense

MJ defended his position but Pip defended , 3 & smaller 4s w/ ease

The only player Pip couldn’t check was Grant Hill

 

[Controversy]

Being a lockdown defender requires a willingness to defend the greats night in & night out...

GP relished that, Pippen relished that, Bruce Bowen, etc...

 

[Sccit]

HE HAS A POINT .. LEBRON WAS A GOOD WEAKSIDE DEFENDER, BUT DECENT AT BEST ON BALL

 

[bucks3115]

Being a lockdown defender requires a willingness to defend the greats night in & night out...

GP relished that, Pippen relished that, Bruce Bowen, etc...

But hw much do they average (points)


Lebron in the playoff defend almost as good as them and average 28.4 pts

Bron and MJ played on both side , im talkin playoff

Of course sometimes they need a good defender on the team to take some pressure of them cuz they gotta score

 

[god shamgod]

I've never heard a competent person that knows basketball say Pippen wasn't a lockdown defender. The fact that you even said this is appalling. Who guarded the best players on opposing teams when the Bulls won their 6 championships? You think Pippen averged almost 3 steals per game by just getting deflections and not on ball defense? He could guard 1-4 easily

The difference between me and you is I actually watched pippen play. You didn't cuz you're saying stupid shyt like this

Now answer the question. Name some perimeter players "the greatest perimeter defender ever" locked down.You still haven't answered

Pippen did not guard the other teams best player all the time either,Jordan guarded drexler in the '92 finals. You're just regurgitating what the media told you like a sheep

 

[mastermind]

Usually it takes decades and no video for tall tales to be told about athletes.

With LeBron, people tell his tall tales as they happen. My favorite LeBron tall tale was that he could guard all five positions.

The Heat defense was designed to stop Rose in 2011, and Rose was their only ball handler and offensive weapon but some how LeBron stopped him on his own.

This of course ignores that Jason Terry and JJ Barea gave Bron that work in the finals.

 

[Controversy]

But hw much do they average (points)


Lebron in the playoff defend almost as good as them and average 28.4 pts

Bron and MJ played on both side , im talkin playoff

Of course sometimes they need a good defender on the team to take some pressure of them cuz they gotta score

There’s a diff in defending Harrison Barnes and KD...that’s why LBJ got exposed last year in the finals

LBJ has never been an overall elite defender...he was good for a cpl yrs in Miami but never really a top 5 defender

LBJ has bad lateral movement, his hips are stiff which is why he’s a North/South player. You need flexibility & great lateral movement to be a great on ball defender.

 

[Pure Water]

All these mediocre ass players always got something to say about Lebron. shyt sus.

 

[FreshandClean]

Cac Wright said he can defend 1-5 though

He can