Kenyan employees working for local Chinese company branch fired and replaced by Chinese employees

[Dr. Acula]

I dont get the fake outrage, its a private business they have the right to hire whoever they choose. If Kenyans dont like they can stop using their services.

You're being simple. Sounds like you're a "free market" type and think it fixes everything and worse, falsely believe that the US and those that preach that ideology actually follow it consistently. The Trump administration just announced a 12 billion dollar bailout for farmers hurt by the tarrifs he implemented.

One, Huawei is a multinational corporation and it's not like a local business where if people in the community stop buying the product, they will go out of business. This only affects Kenyan workers, not consumers and consumers have no say in the issue.

Secondly, every country practices some sort of protection of their local economy to prevent foreigners from taking over at the expense of local workers. In the US, this is usually done indirectly through laws such as work visa laws and limitations placed from that direction in order to prevent say a Chinese corporation from firing all their American workers and hiring nothing but Chinese.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

That's not what's happening though.

They are not "hating" on another Black person -- they are hating and commenting on decisions that were made (they made..) -- that caused them to be in a messed up situation.

No one is happy about Kenyans losing jobs an not being able to taken care of their families. Nor are they happy about non-Kenyans coming in and kicking them out of their own ish/opps.

In reality it's a hurt c00n taking any opportunity to shyt on Black people that they don't see as kin. That's what it is. Nice spin attempt. You might be right except it's always the same posters in these threads delighting in the misery of "other" Black people.

We've already told y'all it's a trend and the receipts exist. All you gotta do is pull up any thread with Kenya in the title.

I think some of you brehs think we supposed to just take shyt on here are foreign posters but you got it twisted. Respect is only mutual.

 

[Karb]

Of course

because you can't read a map and understand geography and have no general concept of the world or people. simple minds always like to simply shyt so they can grasp it. hence "yall the same to me"

We wouldn't want your brain hurting now...

"That's what a cac would say
"
Somebody literally said this to me when I told them Africa is a vast continent and very few Africans were involved in the transatlantic slave trade

What have Kenyans ever done to them

You're not even from the same side of the continent

I swear the sensible AA brehs need to talk sense into their brethren instead of just watching this mess unfold from the sidelines.

Just like we check our own c00ns. I've checked plenty on and off the forum

They need to handle this

 

[Booker T Garvey]

you know exactly what it means

enjoy your job and make sure to stay on good terms with your employer as well.

You must be Kenyan, you’re in here slobber-crying too hard not to be

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

You must be Kenyan, you’re in here slobber-crying too hard not to be

doesn't change my point and you got it

 

[Doobie Doo]

When Jin's song becomes reality

 

[George Gooney]

Bunch of Koonyans in this thread mad as shyt.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Bunch of Koonyans in this thread mad as shyt.

shut your americ00n ass up

 

[Booker T Garvey]

doesn't change my point and you got it

Spoiler: ...

 

[xoxodede]

In reality it's a hurt c00n taking any opportunity to shyt on Black people that they don't see as kin. That's what it is. Nice spin attempt. You might be right except it's always the same posters in these threads delighting in the misery of "other" Black people.

We've already told y'all it's a trend and the receipts exist. All you gotta do is pull up any thread with Kenya in the title.

I think some of you brehs think we supposed to just take shyt on here are foreign posters but you got it twisted. Respect is only mutual.

I guess.

I call bullshyt -- based on everytime we make a claim about the trend of "anti-Black American" and shyt talking from your side -- it's "spin attempts." And you be the main one is those threads -- doing so.

The solution is do not minimize or silence those "trends and receipts" -- and more than likely your "trend and receipts" claim won't be either.

Cause right now it looks like you just like using the word "c00n" cause you and your ancestors are not attached to it -so it's whatever to use -- and not disrespectful to you.

 

[Karb]

How to separate myths and realities of China's role in tackling Africa’s infrastructure deficit

This is great insight from a former African (Nigerian) infrastructure bank executive on handling negotiations with Chinese companies. On reflecting on his experiences, he mentions that point specifically. These threads always turn into very basic essentialization and show the limits of this style of analysis ( Africans are timid, Kenyans are fools etc)

From the article:

It is important to understand there’s a wide variety of actors and motivations with Chinese investment in African infrastructure. Most often you see construction firms looking to execute contracts with private or public sector clients. These construction contracts are often backed by Chinese financial institutions—like China Export Import Bank and Sinosure—looking to support the exports or sales of Chinese products and services . The mission of these financing entities is to support jobs and income generation in China, as well as to support more strategic objectives of the Chinese government.

Chinese companies are surprisingly risk averse when it comes to Africa. The Chinese construction firms may take a small stake in the overall project to get it going, but their real interest is in the contract. Others Chinese players include genuine investors looking to hold assets long term—they are typically looking for majority stakes in their projects and are actually quite rare as many Chinese companies are surprisingly risk averse when it comes to Africa—and the Chinese government itself, which provides loans or grants, for major infrastructure projects on a government to government basis, sometimes tied to some form of mineral export. These projects are often done for strategic reasons.

I see a lot of criticism of the quality of the projects constructed by Chinese firms. While some work done by Chinese firms can indeed be shoddy (just like the work of firms from other countries can be shoddy), a visit to China will demonstrate that this doesn’t have to be the case. Chinese firms are more likely to work to a budget than Western firms. For example, while a Western firm may tell you a bridge will cost you, say, $300 million. A Chinese firm may tell you that you can have a $300 million bridge, or a $250 million one.

It is important to manage any major project carefully, but more so when dealing with a Chinese firm as things that may be taken for granted in other parts of the world can be negotiable when dealing with a Chinese firm. You have to be careful to specify the quality that you want and the standards that you would like the project to be built to. You also need to be very specific about the environmental and social standards you want the project to adhere to.

We found it helpful when dealing with Chinese companies to engage the Beijing offices of the major international engineering consulting firms, which understood both Western and Chinese standards, to ensure nothing was lost in translation. Incidentally, one thing often said about Chinese firms that is true is that they have a propensity to use all Chinese inputs. If you want local workers and sub-contractors, which we did, you will have to make that a negotiating point.

Yeah, the Kenyan government could've stipulated in the contract that a minimum amount of employees must be local. Also could've negotiated that Huawei would provide training.

It's impossible to have a reasonable discussion in TLR.

 

[Amestafuu (Emeritus)]

Spoiler: ...

That racist video you c00ns love sharing is about as relevant to me as it is to you.. that breh ain't from my country just because he's African doesn't mean it affects me more than you idiot. I assume you are also Black.



@xoxodede you asked for my definition of c00ning... see above. this clown just shared the same racist video other c00ns love sharing on here despite the fact that supremacists love this propaganda and use it often, how did nikkaz start using the same tactics as white supremacists? Yet you tell me I over use the word

 

[Bawon Samedi]

The only posts I take seriously from this thread are those from @Laikipian

 

[ExodusNirvana]

Many of us warned ya'll that the Chinese do not come in peace but now you mad

 

[Flywin Lannister]

Didn’t China ‘invest’ heavily in Nigeria?

How gullible and corrupt are you that you believe a Chinese company invests in Africa for any other reason except for pure profit and dominance?

Chinese people generally only fukk with their own.

Anywhere you go in the world you see: Chinese people hustling and making money. Their mindset is: money over everything.

Thry have zero respect for black people, we all know that.

How can we believe “Africa is next!” as an economic power (at least some key countries) when the government officials who give out permits are completely for sale?