Please stop the gas-lighting
And sure... Tribalism begets tribalism. That's what's sad.
Maybe you're not so different from Africans after all
Kenyan employees working for local Chinese company branch fired and replaced by Chinese employees
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Maybe you're not so different from Africans after all
Africans weak as hell
They love them some outsiders
Smh and unfortunately we inherited that trait from them
because all the money you make only comes from other Black people right?
Whatever this means
By all means get your bread, just do it with some dignity and self preservation
xoxodede
Superstar
That's not what's happening though.
They are not "hating" on another Black person -- they are hating and commenting on decisions that were made (they made..) -- that caused them to be in a messed up situation.
No one is happy about Kenyans losing jobs an not being able to taken care of their families. Nor are they happy about non-Kenyans coming in and kicking them out of their own ish/opps.
Of courseI'm speaking about afric00ns in general. Y'all all the same to me.
because you can't read a map and understand geography and have no general concept of the world or people. simple minds always like to simply shyt so they can grasp it. hence "yall the same to me"
We wouldn't want your brain hurting now...
you know exactly what it meansWhatever this means
By all means get your bread, just do it with some dignity and self preservation
enjoy your job and make sure to stay on good terms with your employer as well.
SheWantTheD
Veteran
We need to put real warriors in the African government, not motherfukkers that turn a blind eye to bullshyt because they are getting bribed.
xoxodede
Superstar
Maybe you're not so different from Africans after all
I'm not -- I didn't even know I had it innately instilled -- until y'all put me on. Thanks... I guess.
thatrapsfan
Superstar
How to separate myths and realities of China's role in tackling Africa’s infrastructure deficitAfrican governments need to negotiate these things before handing out permits/contracts to Chinese companies
This isn't colonialism like some of you c00ns are making it out to be.
This is great insight from a former African (Nigerian) infrastructure bank executive on handling negotiations with Chinese companies. On reflecting on his experiences, he mentions that point specifically. These threads always turn into very basic essentialization and show the limits of this style of analysis ( Africans are timid, Kenyans are fools etc)
From the article:
It is important to understand there’s a wide variety of actors and motivations with Chinese investment in African infrastructure. Most often you see construction firms looking to execute contracts with private or public sector clients. These construction contracts are often backed by Chinese financial institutions—like China Export Import Bank and Sinosure—looking to support the exports or sales of Chinese products and services . The mission of these financing entities is to support jobs and income generation in China, as well as to support more strategic objectives of the Chinese government.
Chinese companies are surprisingly risk averse when it comes to Africa. The Chinese construction firms may take a small stake in the overall project to get it going, but their real interest is in the contract. Others Chinese players include genuine investors looking to hold assets long term—they are typically looking for majority stakes in their projects and are actually quite rare as many Chinese companies are surprisingly risk averse when it comes to Africa—and the Chinese government itself, which provides loans or grants, for major infrastructure projects on a government to government basis, sometimes tied to some form of mineral export. These projects are often done for strategic reasons.
I see a lot of criticism of the quality of the projects constructed by Chinese firms. While some work done by Chinese firms can indeed be shoddy (just like the work of firms from other countries can be shoddy), a visit to China will demonstrate that this doesn’t have to be the case. Chinese firms are more likely to work to a budget than Western firms. For example, while a Western firm may tell you a bridge will cost you, say, $300 million. A Chinese firm may tell you that you can have a $300 million bridge, or a $250 million one.
It is important to manage any major project carefully, but more so when dealing with a Chinese firm as things that may be taken for granted in other parts of the world can be negotiable when dealing with a Chinese firm. You have to be careful to specify the quality that you want and the standards that you would like the project to be built to. You also need to be very specific about the environmental and social standards you want the project to adhere to.
We found it helpful when dealing with Chinese companies to engage the Beijing offices of the major international engineering consulting firms, which understood both Western and Chinese standards, to ensure nothing was lost in translation. Incidentally, one thing often said about Chinese firms that is true is that they have a propensity to use all Chinese inputs. If you want local workers and sub-contractors, which we did, you will have to make that a negotiating point.