Kenny Smith | "LeBron is in my top 10 BUT he’s 10th...Kobe is not top 10" :scust:
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Your answer is one of the reasons I find how serious some are about their opinion humorous. Their love for a certain player is so strong that they have to hate on another. They end up giving the person they hate more energy than that person's own fans.Fanhood
It's just his opinion.
All these rankings are just opinions. Though I guess it would be hard to not mention Kobe or Lebron when talking about 1 of them. They're going to be connected in some way forever, in all types of discussion.
All these rankings are just opinions. Though I guess it would be hard to not mention Kobe or Lebron when talking about 1 of them. They're going to be connected in some way forever, in all types of discussion.
I dont consider them particularly connected as they never really matched up in highly meaningful games. it really boils down to two groups of stans that are so hypersensitive in their love.
viktordoomsecretwars
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I understand where Kenny Smith is coming from. Beneath all the media hype and adulation, a very valid case can be made Lebron is no better than Olajuwon.
What I mean is, some of Kobe's and Lebron's best years sort of overlapped.
If someone talks about the best or most exciting players from 2000-2010, if you mention one, you likely will mention the other.
ok, I understand what you meant. For me the way people seem to be unable to mention one without the other would make you think they were rivals when they barely played each other enough to be considered acquaintances.
CoCKy GeNiuS
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My honest question is why isn't Iverson regarded as atleast a top 10 player?
He was turnt up since his rookie year at 5'10'. Why do you brehs allow the media to box him out of the real homage he deserves?
He was turnt up since his rookie year at 5'10'. Why do you brehs allow the media to box him out of the real homage he deserves?
murksiderock
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That isnt accurate nor fair to put on me, and we both know you wouldn't say that if I thought Kobe was better than LeBron. And the thing is I don't even frame my opinion around data, I use it as support like you and everyone else when you feel like it, but my opinions aren't based on numbers any more than yours...
What it is, is I don't downplay numbers when they don't suit whatever player or argument I favor. I know that numbers don't tell the whole story and I also know you don't have to be a basketball genius to see how a guy impacts a game or series outside of box scores...but I also know the numbers are kept for a reason and can be used in conjunction to support arguments. The same statistical categories are kept for everyone...
Your impact on the floor can be measures thru data to varying degrees, otherwise there wouldn't be a scoreboard and we'd just call the winner the guy we think hustles the hardest. Yall only downplay numbers when they don't fit your argument, but champion them when they do...
It can be debated that Iverson is only barely Top 10 of his era. All the shyt like popularity and influence matters and adds to a guys legend, but at the end of the day it boils down to what you do on the floor. Iverson is a little overrated by most black heads, he's an icon and a legend in the sense of his role in changing the sport, but he also struggled to win playoff series in the weakest conference of the last at least 30 years. He basically the basketball version of Vick and ironically they from the same hometown...
That, among other things, easily disqualifies him from GOAT talk, but he the people's champ, though...
What part of this wasn't true? Don't come with some extra shyt either lol, I was asked on what grounds could you objectively argue LeBron as the greatest ever and gave some objective reasons, what part was false?
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arent you one of those clowns that were crying about desean jackson and stephen jackson or am I thinking about another dikkriding jew
I don't trust most people who played in the league in the 80s or 90s as analysts of all time lists.
They tend to say the players they played worse so much better, specially an average dude like Kenny, cause in his head he could've been an all-star player in Kobes era
They tend to say the players they played worse so much better, specially an average dude like Kenny, cause in his head he could've been an all-star player in Kobes era
NAAH U MADE SOME VERY SUSPECT POSTS IN THIS THREAD AND HAVE AWFUL TAKES WHEN IT COMES TO ANALYZING NBA PLAYERS TBH
NOTHIN AGAINST U PERSONALLY, U JUST COME OFF AS A CASUAL
AND CONSIDERING EVEN 21 YEAR OLD KOBE IS A FAR BETTER BASKETBALL PLAYER THAN ANY VERSION OF LEBRON, YEA, IF U FAVORED KOBE OVER LEBRON THAT WOULD ABSOLUTELY CHANGE EVERYTHING...
BUT U DONT, SO IMA HAVE TO KEEP IT A BUCK WIT U