Kendrick Lamar - The Blacker The Berry (Prod. by Boi-1da)

[Ike omad]

Elijah wood is dope, I respect him even more now that he likes the best rapper of our era

 

[Ski Mask]

This is my last comment, cause at this point, both sides are just going to have to agree to disagree. I like the song, despite the last verse being cringe worthy, and I don't have a problem with discussing BOB crime, but I don't like it being grouped in with injustices like trayvon.


Also, lets be real, that line is going to be applied to black people in general, not just gang members.

 

[Ike omad]

only on thecoli this line is a deal, thats the proof that the coli have a lot of IQ members

thats because most people on here are simple minded and need hours to understand something

 

[StretfordRed]

my man elijah wood anticipating that new kednrick

Yeah, he is a HUGE hip hop head

 

[A.R.$]

At least he got you thinking, what other mainstream rapper is doing that nowadays? You can bet this is gonna be the talk of the day, both for and against will be argued vehemently, what other mainstream rapper is doing that nowadays? You can call it the socratic method of spitting hot 16's

I like Kendrick as well. GKMC is a classic to me, but I have to call it as I see it. I'm glad he is spittin what he feels, but some of the things he been saying lately have been like the shyt Steven A Smith have been saying. You can be critical of how some in the Black Community live and act but don't mix it in conversations about Trayvon Martin, because they are two different issues. As far as the mainstream goes J Cole makes more thought provoking songs, even though I think Kendrick is a better lyricist.

 

[Rapmastermind]

I'm so Happy I came up in a time in Hip Hop where it wasn't a "SHOCK" when a mainstream rapper drops a Consious song. LOL.

 

[blackslash]

explain whats wrong with his post

 

[DaChampIsHere]

much of kendricks music focuses on this very subject....he's well aware that the system is the root of the problem. he's aware that they're fufilling the role the system cast them as. But you gotta think of the whole picture he's been painting here....hiiipower. being your own god. making your own pyramids/heirogypics...being in charge of your own history and destiny. being a good kid in a maad city, having the strength of character to overcome the barriers set in front of you. he's not saying it's easy or difficult but he's also talking about his personal struggle with it and how HE made it out, and getting people talking and maybe being inspired by him

the solution he's been proposing his entire career is "turn inward" self actualization is a powerful tool and no it cannot always overcome there are so many things wrong with the system but it seemed to help guide him to this higher purpose and now he's looking to inspire others\.

This is exactly what I got from this song, along with "I" as well.

Unfortunately, none of that feeling/pride eliminates capitalism. In capitalism a group will ALWAYS be on the bottom. No matter how "good" they are. That is black people's position right now. Because of racism, we are on the bottom of capitalist system, but we really can't change our "racial standing" (stereotypes/proximity to the effects of racism) without changing our financial place, but racism is the reason our financial standing stance in the first place.

Vicious cycle.

I'm so Happy I came up in a time in Hip Hop where it wasn't a "SHOCK" when a mainstream rapper drops a Consious song. LOL.

This is a precise reasoning as to why people don't wanna see this for what it is. We are very desperate for someone to speak on our behalf, we'll accept someone who is speaking it half way, but not demand all the way so not to scare them off with having to take that level responsibility or reactions that come with being unabashedly conscious.

 

[GoldenGlove]

I like Kendrick as well. GKMC is a classic to me, but I have to call it as I see it. I'm glad he is spittin what he feels, but some of the things he been saying lately have been like the shyt Steven A Smith have been saying. You can be critical of how some in the Black Community live and act but don't mix it in conversations about Trayvon Martin, because they are two different issues. As far as the mainstream goes J Cole makes more thought provoking songs, even though I think Kendrick is a better lyricist.

This is how I feel... Whether you agree with this dude's feelings you have to commend him from speaking his mind and putting it in the music.

It's a good song, and even though I get his point, don't mean I have to agree with it. That Trayvon line made me go though, can't even front.

And which thought provoking songs has J. Cole dropped that had people talking about it on this level?

 

[FukkaPaidEmail]

This thread has showed me that The Coli has a lot of nikkas with horrible comprehension skills.

nikkas need to stick to getting "up like Donald Trump" and leave music that may require any sort of critical thinking alone.

 

[jaydolf spitler]

explain whats wrong with his post

Nothing too crazy, just can't believe how people don't think the situation Kendrick described is hypocritical

 

[Kaypain]

So why do all of you keep qualifying/justifying the last line by saying Kendrick is talking only about him and people of a certain lifestyle? Saying that if you aren't a gang member (a lifestyle), you shouldn't be mad? Saying that he's only talking about himself, not all blacks?

Is the song about all black people/skin or is about gangs and such? And if the song is about black skin, how does the last line relate besides Kendrick injecting his/whoever's sins into the story of ALL those with black skin?

I have never killed a black man so I personally don't appreciate Kendrick making a song about "black skin" (your words) and then injecting his degenerate activity as proxy of all black actions and morality and speaking about his/whoever's gang activity. You say it's a song about "black skin", but probably not even more than a 1% of black people have done the things Kendrick is talking about. It's not a fair line. That song does not represent me, most people on this board, or most black people.

The mental gymnastics people are doing to un-explain something that Kendrick explained to us about a month ago is giving "smart dumb nikka" vibes off.

I'm just gonna give examples for you nikkas because you same nikkas here speaking this shyt were the same nikka calling the dumb nikka that killed those two cops a hero, even tho weeks before he murder his girl, a BLACK sister. fukking hypocrites

Watching a First 48 episode, black man kills another black man for drugs and money during a robbery, executes him b. This nikka had the audacity to call the victim's mom. Tell her he's sorry for her loss, and that he will do everything to find who do it. fukking hypocrite

Karma catches him and he gets killed, but the block calls him a hero. They graffiti his name on the walls, wear "R.I.P Murder" t shirts. They're all fukking hypocrites

what about the gang bangers that kill Children my nikka, children b? Because they were aiming for another gangbanger. But then they turn around cry for injustice when their homie gets killed. He's a fukking hypocrite

Now everything Kendrick raps about reflect on his life experiences. And how he truly feels right now based from those experiences. He lived that ganglife, he squeezed that trigger and took black life before, and now he's just speaking what nikkas really feels. Yall call him a c00n for that, we'll I call you buffoons then nikka.

If I'm out marching with protesters protesting over the injustly killing of John Crawford but see a nikka that killed another nikka last week marching along side of us, I'm call him out and call him a hypocrite point blank, the fukk you doing here nikka?

The song is a reflection of himself, a exgangbanger. shyt doesn't represent you because you're not what he used to be, therefore you're not hypocrite

 

[Matt504]

This thread has showed me that The Coli has a lot of nikkas with horrible comprehension skills.

nikkas need to stick to getting "up like Donald Trump" and leave music that may require any sort of critical thinking alone.

Give us your thought provoking analysis of the song

 

[jaydolf spitler]

This is how I feel... Whether you agree with this dude's feelings you have to commend him from speaking his mind and putting it in the music.

It's a good song, and even though I get his point, don't mean I have to agree with it. That Trayvon line made me go though, can't even front.

And which thought provoking songs has J. Cole dropped that had people talking about it on this level?

 

[blackslash]

plz dnt

plz

U mean that song that was soo vague and general?

Thatsong??

Plz stop it

Stop tryna put Cole on Kdot's level pls